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"Anything other than a savaging to our goal difference will be a bonus"?

 

???

 

We've been neck and neck with them all season and we're supposed to be stronger now than we were prior to January, what an absolutely ridiculous attitude. We beat a stronger Arsenal side with a weaker Newcastle one last season, we should be going there to win, a point's a decent result, a defeat is not good enough because we've shelled too many points at home in games we should be winning.

 

If only football was as simple as this. We're talking about a team that's just scored 8 goals against Spurs & Milan recently. What we did in our last 3 games against these has no bearing on Monday night. They'll be strong favourites on Monday, and we'll have to play at 100%, with them at around 70% to even stand a chance of a result.

 

It has a bearing in that we need to try and recoup the points we've lost unnecessarily in two home games against poor sides. Spurs put 5 past us then couldn't beat Stevenage so I'm not interested in what Arsenal did last week or the week before.

 

Of course they'll be strong favourites. We were strong favourites at 2-0 up against Wolves but we flushed that game down the toilet (and just how embarrassing does that look now?) and we need at least a point on Monday. Our form is dreadful and we need to arrest it, that'll have to be against Arsenal because we were unable to do it against Wolves or the mackems.

 

But we have 10-11 games or whatever after Arsenal to get the necessary points. Ridiculous putting us under unnecessary pressure if we lose on Monday man. I'd take 10 points from the next 6 games and be very happy indeed.

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anything less than a win and dreams of 4th are over imo. even 3 points and it is still a big ask. can't understand going there with the attitude that only losing by a couple of goals is a bonus.

 

You can keep dreaming until it's mathematically impossible :) so long as you never seriously gave it a fleeting fancy for this year..!

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Good posts Stu, and I understand your deletion - but without sounding unduly big-headed - I think we can give anyone a game when we're on form.

 

We just struggle to find that form for 45 minutes+

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Good posts Stu, and I understand your deletion - but without sounding unduly big-headed - I think we can give anyone a game when we're on form.

 

We just struggle to find that form for 45 minutes+

 

Of course we can give any one a good game. But to say "we must get something" just because we've dropped points lately is stupid given we still have 5 points on 7th.

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Good posts Stu, and I understand your deletion - but without sounding unduly big-headed - I think we can give anyone a game when we're on form.

We just struggle to find that form for 45 minutes+

 

This and 'on our day we can beat anyone' is such a strange cliché. Its a truism, but I don't know. Never liked it.  :lol:

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Good posts Stu, and I understand your deletion - but without sounding unduly big-headed - I think we can give anyone a game when we're on form.

 

We just struggle to find that form for 45 minutes+

 

Of course we can give any one a good game. But to say "we must get something" just because we've dropped points lately is stupid given we still have 5 points on 7th.

 

I'd love for us to turn up with our 'A' game on Monday night and have HBA, Cabaya, Tiote, Ba and Cisse on top of their game - those 5 along on song with an OT-esque defensive performance (not that they'd be under so much pressure with the attack on fire) is more than enough to beat anyone in the league - I just can't see it happening for the first time, away from home on a Monday night at the Emirates against a reasonably confident Arsenal side after we've just had two 'disappointing' home draws.

 

Reluctantly, I think Pards will send them out trying to shut out RVP and "keep it tight" for the first 60minutes before looking to nick it. We have the playing potential in our first team to be much better than that, but perhaps they've not had the time to work together and develop the split-second understanding needed to do it without thinking when it counts. This is probably why Pards is concentrating on "percentages" at the moment - to the detriment of our entertainment.

 

EDIT: which is why I'd be pleased to get out of The Emirates with a narrow defeat - especially if put in a good display and give Arsenal a toe-to-toe in the footballing stakes. It would set us up really well for the final run in against teams who are nowhere near as good.

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Good posts Stu, and I understand your deletion - but without sounding unduly big-headed - I think we can give anyone a game when we're on form.

 

We just struggle to find that form for 45 minutes+

 

Of course we can give any one a good game. But to say "we must get something" just because we've dropped points lately is stupid given we still have 5 points on 7th.

 

I'd love for us to turn up with our 'A' game on Monday night and have HBA, Cabaya, Tiote, Ba and Cisse on top of their game - those 5 along on song with an OT-esque defensive performance (not that they'd be under so much pressure with the attack on fire) is more than enough to beat anyone in the league - I just can't see it happening for the first time, away from home on a Monday night at the Emirates against a reasonably confident Arsenal side after we've just had two 'disappointing' home draws.

 

Reluctantly, I think Pards will send them out trying to shut out RVP and "keep it tight" for the first 60minutes before looking to nick it. We have the playing potential in our first team to be much better than that, but perhaps they've not had the time to work together and develop the split-second understanding needed to do it without thinking when it counts. This is probably why Pards is concentrating on "percentages" at the moment - to the detriment of our entertainment.

 

The way we've been playing isn't just to the detriment of our "entertainment".

 

Pardew's gameplan when he tries to "keep it tight" seems to involve letting the opposition have the ball as much as possible. Logic seems to be that losing the ball when we're in attacking possession is bad because players might be out of position but losing it when the shape is ok is a good thing because... well, at least the shape is ok. Hence trying to take someone on is a black mark but Danny Simpson whacking it straight to their centre half is positively encouraged.

 

It didn't work against Spurs or Liverpool, it didn't even work against Wolves (home or away) so I pray he doesn't try the same thing against Arsenal. If we just let them have the ball, it'll be another potential massacre. You can't just let other teams have the ball in the Premier League, it's insane, that's why we've been leaking so many goals.

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It's mad how Everton always hit form at the business end of the season. Got to be Moyes.

 

Still haven't worked it out. I can only attribute it to Moyes. Equally, you have to attribute the consistent poor starts to him.

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It's mad how Everton always hit form at the business end of the season. Got to be Moyes.

 

Still haven't worked it out. I can only attribute it to Moyes. Equally, you have to attribute the consistent poor starts to him.

 

Aye, that's what I meant with the poor starts n all. Can't just be coincidence. Must be pretty infuriating.

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It's mad how Everton always hit form at the business end of the season. Got to be Moyes.

 

Still haven't worked it out. I can only attribute it to Moyes. Equally, you have to attribute the consistent poor starts to him.

 

EVERTON END OF SEASON FITNESS PLAN (aka the Glaswegian Diet)

 

- Irn Bru

- Deep Fried Pizza

- Deep Fried Mars Bar

- Haggis

- Neaps & Tatties

- Scotch

 

Nae wonder it takes them a few months to get back to peak fitness :kinnear:

 

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Jamie o'hara ‏ @mrjamieohara

I'm as gutted as any fan 4 today but can't be aving people wanting to fight me when I have my son in my arms, disgrace,I'm giving everything

7:37 PM - 10 Mar 12

 

:undecided:

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What happened?

 

A group of thugs tried attacking him, he threw his baby to them like a chicken to a rabid pack of wolves (snigger) and ran off.

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