Guest icemanblue Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Have only seen a little bit of Bony but i thought his touch was quite heavy but that doesn't matter given the extraordinary amount of time defenders in the Dutch league give opposition players. He certainly won't get that here. Based on what little i saw, i don't think he'd do that well in this league. From what I've seen (youtube), he just looked a bully. Defenders just bouncing off him in and around the box, giving him time and space to finish. He won't be afforded the same luxury over here. Didn't seem to have any particular outstanding quality, that sets apart the Suarez' from the Alves'. I'd be concerned if he was our main striker signing. Just a bully won't score 46 goals in 65 games in any league Afonso Alves scored 39 in 45, and looked a world beater. Unfortunately, when it comes to the Dutch league, you need to look at more than goals. Of course you need to look at more than just goals but you suggested he just looked a bully, I say just a bully won't score that amount of goals. Some would say Andy Carroll is just a bully type player, I think Bony has much more to his game than Carroll. Huh? A bully who is able to create his own time and space in dangerous areas, is bound to score a lot of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Have only seen a little bit of Bony but i thought his touch was quite heavy but that doesn't matter given the extraordinary amount of time defenders in the Dutch league give opposition players. He certainly won't get that here. Based on what little i saw, i don't think he'd do that well in this league. From what I've seen (youtube), he just looked a bully. Defenders just bouncing off him in and around the box, giving him time and space to finish. He won't be afforded the same luxury over here. Didn't seem to have any particular outstanding quality, that sets apart the Suarez' from the Alves'. I'd be concerned if he was our main striker signing. Just a bully won't score 46 goals in 65 games in any league Afonso Alves scored 39 in 45, and looked a world beater. Unfortunately, when it comes to the Dutch league, you need to look at more than goals. Of course you need to look at more than just goals but you suggested he just looked a bully, I say just a bully won't score that amount of goals. Some would say Andy Carroll is just a bully type player, I think Bony has much more to his game than Carroll. Huh? A bully who is able to create his own time and space in dangerous areas, is bound to score a lot of goals. So Bony is only a bully who does not create his own space but Carroll is a bully who creates his own space ? Winding me up surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Have only seen a little bit of Bony but i thought his touch was quite heavy but that doesn't matter given the extraordinary amount of time defenders in the Dutch league give opposition players. He certainly won't get that here. Based on what little i saw, i don't think he'd do that well in this league. From what I've seen (youtube), he just looked a bully. Defenders just bouncing off him in and around the box, giving him time and space to finish. He won't be afforded the same luxury over here. Didn't seem to have any particular outstanding quality, that sets apart the Suarez' from the Alves'. I'd be concerned if he was our main striker signing. Just a bully won't score 46 goals in 65 games in any league Afonso Alves scored 39 in 45, and looked a world beater. Unfortunately, when it comes to the Dutch league, you need to look at more than goals. Of course you need to look at more than just goals but you suggested he just looked a bully, I say just a bully won't score that amount of goals. Some would say Andy Carroll is just a bully type player, I think Bony has much more to his game than Carroll. Huh? A bully who is able to create his own time and space in dangerous areas, is bound to score a lot of goals. So Bony is only a bully who does not create his own space but Carroll is a bully who creates his own space ? Winding me up surely? What are you on about? Let's forget you've brought up Carroll, he's irrelevant. You disputed that a bully would be able to score that many goals. I said Bony is a bully in the Dutch League, which has allowed him to score that many goals. He wouldn't have the same physical advantage over here, so I think he'd struggle. I haven't seen much else to his game, pace, technical ability etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Without too much concrete or reliable information, this window looks an absolute disaster so far. We've scouted one CB for two years, negotiated for 5 months and then pull the plug because JK comes in. We've looked at another CB (Tomkins), but he seems to cost actual money so he's also a no-go. We've known we need a striker since Ba left and we've seemingly been looking at: a) Carroll - didn't bid for him. b) Aubameyang - wants Champions League and he'd be mad to sign for us with Dortmund etc in for him. c) Bony - we do not want to pay actual money for him so he's also a no-go. No planning, no ambition, no strategy, no money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The window isn't even open yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Christ on a cross trainer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 How much TV-money did we get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Have only seen a little bit of Bony but i thought his touch was quite heavy but that doesn't matter given the extraordinary amount of time defenders in the Dutch league give opposition players. He certainly won't get that here. Based on what little i saw, i don't think he'd do that well in this league. A young man from Belgium came over from an even poorer league with a heavy touch last summer, and scored goals for fun. Really difficult to predict these things. Bony reminds me of Kone who was at Wigan last season, although I actually think he's more polished. Think he'll do well personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 How much TV-money did we get? Plenty, plenty monies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 BONY - can he play next to cisse - probably not. Him and cisse to swap and we buy and exciting forward/left winger to start ahead of gouffran. Then i truely start to believe things could be interetsting....even with pardew/joe. but just cant see ashley splashing 25 mill for 2 players. But imaging if he did....its close to what we need. Imo our central defends is ok. M´biwa and colo. taylor/willo back up. What an exciting team we could have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 How much TV-money did we get? Plenty, plenty monies. Many, many monies? Considering the TV-deal was like a million trillion quadroolions, and Southampton are spending £50M, we should have a little money in our wallets at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Don't think we will spend much this summer. Decent money on a striker and a cheap backup for a CH plus some promising youngsters and that's it. If we get a good striker and a proper winger I'll be happy regardless of how much we spend. I'm just worried any shift in transfer policy may be to our detriment when there are better options around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 One thing I trust is our player recruitment, although JFK has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works. As a few of our January signings were meant for the summer, I think it might be fairly quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 How much TV-money did we get? Plenty, plenty monies. Many, many monies? Considering the TV-deal was like a million trillion quadroolions, and Southampton are spending £50M, we should have a little money in our wallets at least. An increase of some £20m from the bottom club to some £40m for the league winners by some estimates. Enough to cover an empty stadium btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 One thing I trust is our player recruitment, although JFK has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works. As a few of our January signings were meant for the summer, I think it might be fairly quiet. Yeah, think we have spent a vast portion of our summer budget on those January signings. We should be decently fine with a couple of quality additions. The unknown is how our transfers will pan out with the Kinnear factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The window isn't even open yet Not really relevant. Other teams are making signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 How much TV-money did we get? Plenty, plenty monies. Many, many monies? Considering the TV-deal was like a million trillion quadroolions, and Southampton are spending £50M, we should have a little money in our wallets at least. An increase of some £20m from the bottom club to some £40m for the league winners by some estimates. Enough to cover an empty stadium btw. The money we've just received/will soon receive is the last payment of the previous deal AFAIK (?). I think this coming season is when the new deal kicks in so we'd get the increased payment next summer. EDIT: Yep we received £45m for last season (2012-2013). http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2012-13/may/premier-league-total-broadcasting-payments-season-2012-13.html Next summer the team finishing last will get at least £60m (rather than the £39m the bottom team received for the 2012-2013 season). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 How much TV-money did we get? Significantly less than anyone else. Or maybe it just feels that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 How much TV-money did we get? Plenty, plenty monies. Many, many monies? Considering the TV-deal was like a million trillion quadroolions, and Southampton are spending £50M, we should have a little money in our wallets at least. An increase of some £20m from the bottom club to some £40m for the league winners by some estimates. Enough to cover an empty stadium btw. The money we've just received/will soon receive is the last payment of the previous deal AFAIK (?). I think this coming season is when the new deal kicks in so we'd get the increased payment next summer. Starts from the new season, yup. Didn't stop clubs from spending ahead to consolidate their lucrative PL status. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The window isn't even open yet It's been open for over a month in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The first commences at midnight on the last day of the season and ends on 31 August if a working day - or, if not, on the first working day thereafter, at a time determined by the Board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The window isn't even open yet It's been open for over a month in England. No. Only for domestic transfers. Ther International window opens July 1st in England. You can naturally arrange transfers (Internationally), but they won't be "official" until then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The window isn't even open yet It's been open for over a month in England. No. Only for domestic transfers. Ther International window opens July 1st in England. You can arrange transfers (Internationally), but they won't be official until then. So yes then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The window isn't even open yet It's been open for over a month in England. No. Only for domestic transfers. Ther International window opens July 1st in England. You can arrange transfers (Internationally), but they won't be official until then. So yes then. Yes, it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 We've been able to sign players since the last day of the season. edit: regardless, we're arguing semantics. Other teams have signed players. Clubs have even confirmed international transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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