Ronaldo Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Toptoon's not the brightest poster on the wall but he's right about Taylor and Colo being our best partnership and certain strikers having a field day against Colo and MYM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Toptoon's not the brightest poster on the wall but he's right about Taylor and Colo being our best partnership and certain strikers having a field day against Colo and MYM. Doesn't that remain to be seen? They've never/hardly played. MYM is young and new to the league, and yes his style is similar to Colo. But it's not like Taylor physically dominates all his opponents. I can see where you're coming from, but I wouldn't conclude that Colo/Mapou couldn't work yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Toptoon's not the brightest poster on the wall but he's right about Taylor and Colo being our best partnership and certain strikers having a field day against Colo and MYM. Doesn't that remain to be seen? They've never/hardly played. MYM is young and new to the league, and yes his style is similar to Colo. But it's not like Taylor physically dominates all his opponents. I can see where you're coming from, but I wouldn't conclude that Colo/Mapou couldn't work yet. Basically how i feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Toptoon's not the brightest poster on the wall but he's right about Taylor and Colo being our best partnership and certain strikers having a field day against Colo and MYM. Backhanded compliment if I've ever heard one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Toptoon's not the brightest poster on the wall but he's right about Taylor and Colo being our best partnership and certain strikers having a field day against Colo and MYM. Doesn't that remain to be seen? They've never/hardly played. MYM is young and new to the league, and yes his style is similar to Colo. But it's not like Taylor physically dominates all his opponents. I can see where you're coming from, but I wouldn't conclude that Colo/Mapou couldn't work yet. Basically how i feel. And the fact the PL now has a shortage of physical hardmen strikers. Game has completely changed from say 10/15 year ago. I think Colo/MYM could would perfectly well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 What about all those balls through/over our back four? Only Mapou is really pacey. It's not just about defending against good headers of the ball. And Mbiwa is twice as composed compared to Taylor who often goes down to the ground when he tackles. Yes i know that Mbiwa wasnt brilliant but he also hasn't played much in this league or with his new team mates, and most above all, we've been a mess of a team and he hasn't got games with the calming influence that Coloccini is. I think Mbiwa will be much much better this year (if he gets to play with Colo that is) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Colo/ MYM had a cracking game away to either Kharkiv or Anzi. Cant remember who. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 What about all those balls through/over our back four? Only Mapou is really pacey. It's not just about defending against good headers of the ball. And Mbiwa is twice as composed compared to Taylor who often goes down to the ground when he tackles. Yes i know that Mbiwa wasnt brilliant but he also hasn't played much in this league or with his new team mates, and most above all, we've been a mess of a team and he hasn't got games with the calming influence that Coloccini is. I think Mbiwa will be much much better this year (if he gets to play with Colo that is) Amazing how that has been forgotten about tbh It was a massive complaint from the majority before we signed Mapou that it was so easy to get in behind the back 4 with Taylor/Williamson and Colo with Mbiwa and Debuchy to some extent we have better recovery pace and positional sense. I understand where people are coming from but i do feel it could work well none the less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Toptoon's not the brightest poster on the wall but he's right about Taylor and Colo being our best partnership and certain strikers having a field day against Colo and MYM. Based on your own conjecture. It's not like Taylor is some sort of Vidic type that dominates big burly centre forwards either. Benteke had a field day against him at Villa Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Toptoon's not the brightest poster on the wall but he's right about Taylor and Colo being our best partnership and certain strikers having a field day against Colo and MYM. Based on your own conjecture. It's not like Taylor is some sort of Vidic type that dominates big burly centre forwards either. Benteke had a field day against him at Villa Park. Wasn't that Taylor's first game back from injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 And the fact the PL now has a shortage of physical hardmen strikers. Game has completely changed from say 10/15 year ago. I think Colo/MYM could would perfectly well. The strikers of today are far better athletes; stronger and quicker. It's not about who likes elbowing defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Playing MYM in CB rather than Tayls adds recovery speed which allows them to push further up. Taylor and Colo will always stay deeper making a passing game harder. Having said that agree that MYM and Colo isn't yet the partnership that's proven to be as strong as the other, so fair enough on that count, it's just a choice between trying to get a different partnership going for the benefit of a passing game (lol as if anyway) or sticking with what's solid. It's a delicate balance and in the long run the former is better but do think it'll be tough to leave out Taylor. 3 at teh back would be the adventurous option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Playing MYM in CB rather than Tayls adds recovery speed which allows them to push further up. Taylor and Colo will always stay deeper making a passing game harder. Having said that agree that MYM and Colo isn't yet the partnership that's proven to be as strong as the other, so fair enough on that count, it's just a choice between trying to get a different partnership going for the benefit of a passing game (lol as if anyway) or sticking with what's solid. It's a delicate balance and in the long run the former is better but do think it'll be tough to leave out Taylor. 3 at teh back would be the adventurous option. Probably because they only played once together and they were class that night tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Well yes but also expecting them to click together brilliantly quickly is wishful, Taylor Colo is still the safe choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Well yes but also expecting them to click together brilliantly quickly is wishful, Taylor Colo is still the safe choice. Agreed i'm not always a fan of the safe choice though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 May be a case of colo and taylor for games where we will be pushed and bringing in MYM in safer games where we can hold onto the ball better at first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Can't we just tailor whoever partners Colo to the opposition we're playing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Toptoon's not the brightest poster on the wall but he's right about Taylor and Colo being our best partnership and certain strikers having a field day against Colo and MYM. Based on your own conjecture. It's not like Taylor is some sort of Vidic type that dominates big burly centre forwards either. Benteke had a field day against him at Villa Park. Wasn't that Taylor's first game back from injury? So? Can you name me any other physically imposing strikers that you can remember Taylor dominating? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Toptoon's not the brightest poster on the wall but he's right about Taylor and Colo being our best partnership and certain strikers having a field day against Colo and MYM. Based on your own conjecture. It's not like Taylor is some sort of Vidic type that dominates big burly centre forwards either. Benteke had a field day against him at Villa Park. no he didn't. taylor was taking a load of flak on here at the time and so any poor play by him was magnified (the way this place often does with players who aren't forum faves). Tyalor was OK that day, looked rusty but if benteke had a field day it's one of the worst field days i've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 And the fact the PL now has a shortage of physical hardmen strikers. Game has completely changed from say 10/15 year ago. I think Colo/MYM could would perfectly well. The strikers of today are far better athletes; stronger and quicker. It's not about who likes elbowing defenders. If any league should be known for its atheltic forwards it is Ligue 1, and Yanga-Mbiwa is our most athletic centreback by far. I don't think Taylor provides anything more physically than Yanga-Mbiwa offers. He is however, a much more experienced player in this league and a better pure defender. I'm fairly confident in all three of our centrebacks when they are fit. In fact, I quite like the players we have in defence. We really need both of our fullbacks to perform consistently next season though, because neither did last season despite all of their talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lalasialex Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Stay fit and play the same players again and again... That worked out two seasons ago.. With Simpson, Colo, Saylor and Raylor... We started loosing when they split up.. Taylor vs Mbiwa? As long as the back four is drilled together I think it'll work out fine.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Stay fit and play the same players again and again... That worked out two seasons ago.. With Simpson, Colo, Saylor and Raylor... We started loosing when they split up.. Taylor vs Mbiwa? As long as the back four is drilled together I think it'll work out fine.. What does 31 stand for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 And the fact the PL now has a shortage of physical hardmen strikers. Game has completely changed from say 10/15 year ago. I think Colo/MYM could would perfectly well. The strikers of today are far better athletes; stronger and quicker. It's not about who likes elbowing defenders. If any league should be known for its atheltic forwards it is Ligue 1, and Yanga-Mbiwa is our most athletic centreback by far. I don't think Taylor provides anything more physically than Yanga-Mbiwa offers. He is however, a much more experienced player in this league and a better pure defender. I'm fairly confident in all three of our centrebacks when they are fit. In fact, I quite like the players we have in defence. We really need both of our fullbacks to perform consistently next season though, because neither did last season despite all of their talent. MBiwa has proven nothing thus far that suggests him to be our most athletic centreback in terms of strength and jumping ability. He has really not shown to be very strong and has been outmuscled everytime he has played a physically bigger player than him. For me he's more of Colo's replacement than his partner, although I'd love to have both working together since they're our two best central defender. But as of evidence until now Colo-Saylor has shown more potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Stay fit and play the same players again and again... That worked out two seasons ago.. With Simpson, Colo, Saylor and Raylor... We started loosing when they split up.. Taylor vs Mbiwa? As long as the back four is drilled together I think it'll work out fine.. Alan? Same goes with the Jonas theory eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lalasialex Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Stay fit and play the same players again and again... That worked out two seasons ago.. With Simpson, Colo, Saylor and Raylor... We started loosing when they split up.. Taylor vs Mbiwa? As long as the back four is drilled together I think it'll work out fine.. What does 31 stand for? 31? And Alan? Don't know... It's only IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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