binnsy Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not worried about Cisse at all. He'll score plenty of goals in this side. Exactly, while he might be slightly short of confidence you only have to look at his career, scored goals galore for years and have no doubt he will be banging them in regular for us, he only had 1 chance today but he worked his socks off for 90 mins. He's the least of our worries imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 People either grossly over rate Papiss or under rating Bent, I'm not sure. People are acting as if Papiss link up play is good all the time like say he's RVP. It's not. He's better than Bent IMO but not by a huge margin. Cisse is capable of the spectacular, Bent isn't. Bent is more practical with finishing which helps. Cisse movement is better when it works. Better link up but not by a big distance. What we have to do for Papiss is what we would have to do for Bent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 People are acting like Darren Bent is a league one plodder. He's scored over a goal in two and a half for most of his Premiership career.. Yeah, makes me laugh when people have a go at him, Defoe, etc. He's top class at what he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 So are Defoe and Darren Bet ffs. He's in the same category as them - finishers. When did Papiss Cisse turn into an all rounder like Adebayor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Defoe can create for himself too. In and around the box he just needs a yard. He's also better at carrying the ball. He's just a bit selfish and sometimes need too many chances to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 What the fuck man No one is saying Cisse is fucking Teddy Sherringham, he's just far better on the ball than Darren Bent ffs. This is getting daft now, I hope he sorts it out soon as he's undoubtedly far better than he has shown this season (and I do believe he's starting to show it over the past month or so). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Jermain Defoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Give this lad consistent service and he'll score shitloads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Here man fuck this, Jermain Defoe? Seriously, what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 People getting offended that Cisse is mentioned in the same breath as Defoe and Bent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 People getting offended that Cisse is mentioned in the same breath as Defoe and Bent. From a work-rate and team ethic point of view he does far more for his team mates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Bent is a great goalscorer, I can accept that. Defoe though? He's having a half decent season, he's never looked anywhere even remotely capable of pulling off some of the shit Cisse was last year. His career is also filled with seasons like Cisse is having now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Demba Ba had a Cisse half year too and then turned into one of the best strikers in the league again this year. Form is temporary and all that jazz, mentioning Cisse in the same breath as either Defoe or Bent is offensive, I'm sorry. He's had a bad half a year man, along with everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Bent and Defoe are notorious for giving a team goals and nothing else, sometimes at the detriment of the team. I rate both really highly as goalscorers and always have done but would agree with that general assessment. If you watched Cisse in that 433 last season and choose to put him in the same bracket then you need your head checked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Bent is a good goalscorer, I can accept that. Defoe though? He's having a half decent season, he's never looked anywhere even remotely capable of pulling off some of the s*** Cisse was last year. His career is also filled with seasons like Cisse is having now. Defoe's averaged something like 1 every 2.5 games for the last 12 years. It's hardly just a half-decent season out of the ordinary ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 This wouldn't even be up for debate if our manager knew how to orchestrate an attacking game plan that gives Cisse the service that he needs. Conversely, the attacking game plan wouldn't even be up for debate if Cisse took the chances that fall to him week in week out, like he did last season. He isn't getting chances week in week out though that's the problem. Because of this every single time he has an attempt and doesn't score it's being magnified. Exactly like when Shearer scored about 2 goals for us in the league in half a season after he returned from his ankle injury. We were creating fuck all under Dalglish so whenever Shearer wasn't converting a chance people were saying he was finished etc because chances seemed that rare it was under more scrutiny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not worried about Cisse at all. He'll score plenty of goals in this side. This. He's still a quality player and it shines through most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Demba Ba had a Cisse half year too and then turned into one of the best strikers in the league again this year. Form is temporary and all that jazz, mentioning Cisse in the same breath as either Defoe or Bent is offensive, I'm sorry. He's had a bad half a year man, along with everyone else. Demba Ba could at least legitimately claim he was played out of position for that half a season, not just a couple of matches. I don't know what's offensive about likening Cisse to Defoe or Bent either. You'd think Papiss was Messi reincarnated based on some of the reactions on here tonight FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Ba only played on the left for what six games was it? Plus it also wasn't an unnatural position for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Bent is a good goalscorer, I can accept that. Defoe though? He's having a half decent season, he's never looked anywhere even remotely capable of pulling off some of the s*** Cisse was last year. His career is also filled with seasons like Cisse is having now. Defoe's averaged something like 1 every 2.5 games for the last 12 years. It's hardly just a half-decent season out of the ordinary ffs. He scored 18 goals one season, his highest tally in those great 12 years after that is 13, which he also managed once. He's a good striker granted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Demba Ba had a Cisse half year too and then turned into one of the best strikers in the league again this year. Form is temporary and all that jazz, mentioning Cisse in the same breath as either Defoe or Bent is offensive, I'm sorry. He's had a bad half a year man, along with everyone else. Demba Ba could at least legitimately claim he was played out of position for that half a season, not just a couple of matches. I don't know what's offensive about likening Cisse to Defoe or Bent either. You'd think Papiss was Messi reincarnated based on some of the reactions on here tonight FFS But what about the chances he was missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Ba only played on the left for what six games was it? Plus it also wasn't an unnatural position for him. Exactly, he played there constantly for Hoffenheim besides it wasn't anything like half a season it was 5-6 games. It isn't anything like the same. Also people seem to be ignoring the fact Cisse isn't a 6 month wonder, he's been scoring goals his whole career and offers a lot more to the team than either Bent or Defoe. This whole conversation is full of Cisse isn't suddenly a bad player he's just suffering at the hands of Pardew like every one else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Demba Ba had a Cisse half year too and then turned into one of the best strikers in the league again this year. Form is temporary and all that jazz, mentioning Cisse in the same breath as either Defoe or Bent is offensive, I'm sorry. He's had a bad half a year man, along with everyone else. Demba Ba could at least legitimately claim he was played out of position for that half a season, not just a couple of matches. I don't know what's offensive about likening Cisse to Defoe or Bent either. You'd think Papiss was Messi reincarnated based on some of the reactions on here tonight FFS But what about the chances he was missing? He did miss chances and was rightly criticised for it. Seems like most people are unwilling to similarly critically assess Cisse.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Ba only played on the left for what six games was it? Plus it also wasn't an unnatural position for him. Exactly, he played there constantly for Hoffenheim besides it wasn't anything like half a season it was 5-6 games. It isn't anything like the same. Also people seem to be ignoring the fact Cisse isn't a 6 month wonder, he's been scoring goals his whole career and offers a lot more to the team than either Bent or Defoe. This whole conversation is full of Cisse isn't suddenly a bad player he's just suffering at the hands of Pardew like every one else. Allright sunshine, what did Pardew do wrong this time? Is this not the system you were clamouring for for months, the one you claimed would see Cisse back to top form in no time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not worried about Cisse at all. He'll score plenty of goals in this side. Exactly, while he might be slightly short of confidence you only have to look at his career, scored goals galore for years and have no doubt he will be banging them in regular for us, he only had 1 chance today but he worked his socks off for 90 mins. He's the least of our worries imo Agree. Missing delivery and tactics he shouldn't be blamed for! Every striker have dry spells....and his isn't even dry. He will never be the type of striker who dribbles 4 defenders and then rounds the keeper....and he doesn't need to be as long as we have players like arfa on the wings. People critizing him ATM are sick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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