Dokko Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 He and Shola only exchanged 4 passes vs. West Ham Absolutely shocking partnership. Which way did they go? as in Shola to Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 He and Shola only exchanged 4 passes vs. West Ham Absolutely shocking partnership. Which way did they go? as in Shola to Cisse. Doesn't really matter when one of them is Shola and none of your midfielders are within 20 yards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Other way round from what I read. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/papiss-cisse-wants-see-more-5789463 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Just seen the pics from when he let the kids into his house. I'm a bit annoyed with his performances at the moment, but i can never be mad at him because he's such a wonderful human being. Which is rare in football these days, i tip my hat off to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 i tip my hat off to him. I love you, Mole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 can you do that ? i know you can tip your hat to someone, you can take your hat off to someone..............but can you tip your hat off to someone ? probabaly why hat wearing is dying off IMO. too many top hats getting caught between tipping and being took off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorin Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 HE obv. needs supported movements, our team looks so static these first games it's a joke. I mean, they're talking about long balls-Sam, but holy shit, Pards doesn't seem any better atm. And it can't really only be that we're relying upon Cabaye to make those passes for the fluidity of the team to work. IF we ever get a working 4231 or whatever formation, with movement, I'm pretty sure he'll put that ball in the back of the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 For me he either plays in a 442 or a advanced 433 or not at all. He's no good up top on his own, it's got to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 can you do that ? i know you can tip your hat to someone, you can take your hat off to someone..............but can you tip your hat off to someone ? probabaly why hat wearing is dying off IMO. too many top hats getting caught between tipping and being took off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 For me he either plays in a 442 or a advanced 433 or not at all. He's no good up top on his own, it's got to stop. would be very good up top on his own if he got support, thats whats lacking, no one else in the team at present has "gettin gin the box" as part of their natural game. including gouffran when he's not playing up top himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 For me he either plays in a 442 or a advanced 433 or not at all. He's no good up top on his own, it's got to stop. would be very good up top on his own if he got support, thats whats lacking, no one else in the team at present has "gettin gin the box" as part of their natural game. including gouffran when he's not playing up top himself. He doesn't have the first touch, physical presence, pace, aerial ability or control to be effective up top by himself, not unless you've got two forwards working right behind him and willing to get infront of him at every opportunity, hence the advance 433 comment. If only he had one stand out ability I mentioned he'd be effective even in our current plight not relying on others to bring him in to the game. He's an all rounder with a poachers game, everything about him screams don't let him be the 1 in any formation. Problem then if we get Gomis is I think Gomis & Remy will make a better partnership in a 442. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 For me he either plays in a 442 or a advanced 433 or not at all. He's no good up top on his own, it's got to stop. would be very good up top on his own if he got support, thats whats lacking, no one else in the team at present has "gettin gin the box" as part of their natural game. including gouffran when he's not playing up top himself. He doesn't have the first touch, physical presence, pace, aerial ability or control to be effective up top by himself, not unless you've got two forwards working right behind him and willing to get infront of him at every opportunity, hence the advance 433 comment. If only he had one stand out ability I mentioned he'd be effective even in our current plight not relying on others to bring him in to the game. He's an all rounder with a poachers game, everything about him screams don't let him be the 1 in any formation. Problem then if we get Gomis is I think Gomis & Remy will make a better partnership in a 442. i think we have confused "up top", i mean in the box for which he has everything, just needs a little space that would be created by the oppo defenders having more than just him to think about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 can you do that ? i know you can tip your hat to someone, you can take your hat off to someone..............but can you tip your hat off to someone ? probabaly why hat wearing is dying off IMO. too many top hats getting caught between tipping and being took off. What about doffing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaehyun Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 For me he either plays in a 442 or a advanced 433 or not at all. He's no good up top on his own, it's got to stop. would be very good up top on his own if he got support, thats whats lacking, no one else in the team at present has "gettin gin the box" as part of their natural game. including gouffran when he's not playing up top himself. He doesn't have the first touch, physical presence, pace, aerial ability or control to be effective up top by himself, not unless you've got two forwards working right behind him and willing to get infront of him at every opportunity, hence the advance 433 comment. If only he had one stand out ability I mentioned he'd be effective even in our current plight not relying on others to bring him in to the game. He's an all rounder with a poachers game, everything about him screams don't let him be the 1 in any formation. Problem then if we get Gomis is I think Gomis & Remy will make a better partnership in a 442. i think we have confused "up top", i mean in the box for which he has everything, just needs a little space that would be created by the oppo defenders having more than just him to think about. This. We never see our midfielders run into the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 For me he either plays in a 442 or a advanced 433 or not at all. He's no good up top on his own, it's got to stop. would be very good up top on his own if he got support, thats whats lacking, no one else in the team at present has "gettin gin the box" as part of their natural game. including gouffran when he's not playing up top himself. He doesn't have the first touch, physical presence, pace, aerial ability or control to be effective up top by himself, not unless you've got two forwards working right behind him and willing to get infront of him at every opportunity, hence the advance 433 comment. If only he had one stand out ability I mentioned he'd be effective even in our current plight not relying on others to bring him in to the game. He's an all rounder with a poachers game, everything about him screams don't let him be the 1 in any formation. Problem then if we get Gomis is I think Gomis & Remy will make a better partnership in a 442. Similar to Andy Cole in that respect, it doesn't make him a bad player, just means if he is going to be your main striker you have to deliver some service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 It's a little blasphemous imo to compare Cisse to Andy Cole. I do think Andy Cole would struggle a little in this era but his touch in the box was superb. A better finisher than Cisse. Also stronger and more powerful in tight pockets to get himself a yard of space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Cisse's very easy to get frustrated with but incredibly difficult to dislike, especially with this latest story with the BBQ at his. Real feel he's totally unsuited to the role Pardew is making him play and until there's someone in the side who can win flick-ons (if we continue to go direct from Colo and Krul) or we play on the deck with another striker with movement, he'll continue to struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I still believe in you, Papiss. xox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Get him the right tactics, in the right formation he'll score loads. Needs to sort his own first touch and awareness out but that comes when you're playing well and scoring. So catch 22, doesn't bode well when Pardew is the man trying to work out the rubik cube. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I still believe in you, Papiss. xox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 It's a little blasphemous imo to compare Cisse to Andy Cole. I do think Andy Cole would struggle a little in this era but his touch in the box was superb. A better finisher than Cisse. Also stronger and more powerful in tight pockets to get himself a yard of space. Cole is a far better finisher than Cisse and created more himself ,would not struggle in the modern game imho as he is fast as fuck and would make defences lives a misery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 It's a little blasphemous imo to compare Cisse to Andy Cole. I do think Andy Cole would struggle a little in this era but his touch in the box was superb. A better finisher than Cisse. Also stronger and more powerful in tight pockets to get himself a yard of space. I didn't say they were mirror images, but for comparison sake there are similarities. Both are poachers and require good service from their team mates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Cole had a massive advantage of a team playing for him, and one Peter Beardsley next to him. God, that was a good time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Cole had a massive advantage of a team playing for him, and one Peter Beardsley next to him. God, that was a good time Not to mention Scott Sellars on the left. Now that's what you call quality delivery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Cole had a massive advantage of a team playing for him, and one Peter Beardsley next to him. God, that was a good time Not to mention Scott Sellars on the left. Now that's what you call quality delivery. Football felt better then, more fun like Scott Sellars, jeez KK knew when to time the buying of a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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