TRon Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Long is an average mid table player, which is why he's gone to Hull. If you want to improve above 8th place you don't buy players from the bottom half. Imagine if SBR thought like you when he signed Bellamy. I always used that signing as a benchmark for SBR's knowledge of football. Most manager's wouldn't touch Bellamy for £6m after he flopped at Coventry after making the step up a division, but Bobby had no doubts. A true footballing coach of international calibre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Brett really needs to stop talking like Bellamy was only useful for creating space for Shearer. That was the best thing i gave him credit for, but then a time came i wanted Shearer dropped and Kluivert put in with Bellamy instead. I never thought Bellamy was a great striker or one of the leagues best but in our side he was absolutley vital. His pace is what frightened defenders the most, not the fact he could score from anywhere or see passes others couldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Incidentally, Bellamy wasn't a natural finisher by instinct (Souness also picked up on this) , but he had so many other qualities it's ludicrous to focus only on that. Fantastic movement, lethal pace, good football brain and a rocket of a left foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 He stretched teams. Made them sit back. Scared shitless. Harried defenders put them on the back foot. A player doesn't get transferred for a total of 50m without being a good player in his own right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Aye his movement was superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Obviously he had other qualities, you can't just have pace and expect to have such an impact. His off the ball movement was top draw like you say but that fits in to why Shearer got so many goals as he took defenders away and made them focus on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 For a similar type of career, i always preferred Robbie Keane over Bellamy, as controversial as that maybe. I think Keane had more about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 For a similar type of career, i always preferred Robbie Keane over Bellamy, as controversial as that maybe. I think Keane had more about him. Not at all. Not even similar types of players. Keane had some skill and great touches but was primarily just a good finisher. All round game Bellamy beats him hands down. Bellamy was better at what he did than Keane was at what he did. Obviously i'm biased but I saw a prime Bellamy week-in week-out tear teams to shreds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I just prefer more of a Robbie Keane, obviously not in our side because i couldn't imagine many players filling Bellamy's boots. However it's two players who have gone around the clubs be it on loan or for hefty transfer fees. Always been a big admirer of Keane though, had the pace, good technical ability, could come deep, could poach, could stretch a defence. Think it's remarkable amount of goals he's got on the international stage as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Incidentally, Bellamy wasn't a natural finisher by instinct (Souness also picked up on this) , but he had so many other qualities it's ludicrous to focus only on that. Fantastic movement, lethal pace, good football brain and a rocket of a left foot. Right-footed no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I think Bellamy was targeted originally in 2000 because Bobby knew Shearer was pretty finished as an athlete and needed someone who'd be able to put pressure on the CBs all game and be unselfish in the final third. Bellamy benefited so much from his stint here, though. By the time he left he was on course for over 20 goals that season. Smashing player, really. I'd urge anyone to watch the 02-03 season in particular. Bellamy didn't get that many of our goals but he played a part in an absolutely staggering amount of them through his pace, energy and creativity. I don't think I'll ever see a better second striker in our colours than 93-95ish Beardsley but Bellamy came pretty close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Incidentally, Bellamy wasn't a natural finisher by instinct (Souness also picked up on this) Shut up about Souness, man. He talked absolute nonsense about Bellamy from start to finish, trying to justify playing him on the wing ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It was away at Charlton. Bellamy had scored once in a 1-1 draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I liked it when he said "Not only has he gone behind my back, in front of my face, he's lying". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Bellamy used to strike into the shins of the defender/goalie quite frequently when he first came, but was still brilliant. He improved substantially in his final ball and shooting while he was here. Fucking class player. Remember when he came back from injury (I think) with awful-looking long hair and his finishing was superb. Underrated player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Loved Bellamy man, kind of unabashed dickhead who would drag you back in to games, wind up the opposition fans and players and just generally be a cunt. Always got teams stretched and looked dangerous Yep, loved him as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Bellamy & Robert man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 that moment against villa is how you can tell how crucial a player he was. The look on the crowds face as he pulls up. I remember turning to a mate and saying we wont win anything now, one of the worst games in the clubs history that for the damage on a team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidfieldGeneral Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 that moment against villa is how you can tell how crucial a player he was. The look on the crowds face as he pulls up. I remember turning to a mate and saying we wont win anything now, one of the worst games in the clubs history that for the damage on a team I thought he got injured during the Sunderland game but maybe I'm wrong ?? Also thought SBR got it wrong in filling Bellamys place with Cort & Shola. He should have used Lua Lua or even Dyer up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Absolutely loved Bellamy, would walk into this side. Hated his Owen-esque international commitment though. Often seemed to play through injury then fuck himself up for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Incidentally, Bellamy wasn't a natural finisher by instinct (Souness also picked up on this) Shut up about Souness, man. He talked absolute nonsense about Bellamy from start to finish, trying to justify playing him on the wing ffs. Fuck off man. Either read the full quote or don't post your Moyes appreciating verdict without just cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Incidentally, Bellamy wasn't a natural finisher by instinct (Souness also picked up on this) Shut up about Souness, man. He talked absolute nonsense about Bellamy from start to finish, trying to justify playing him on the wing ffs. Fuck off man. Either read the full quote or don't post your Moyes appreciating verdict without just cause. You what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Incidentally, Bellamy wasn't a natural finisher by instinct (Souness also picked up on this) Shut up about Souness, man. He talked absolute nonsense about Bellamy from start to finish, trying to justify playing him on the wing ffs. Fuck off man. Either read the full quote or don't post your Moyes appreciating verdict without just cause. You what? You know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Mirror.co.uk Newcastle United prepared to offload striker Papiss Cisse ChronicleLive-19 minutes agoShare However, this is a move that would only interest Cisse if he was assured of first-team football, and that it was a permanent deal. It is understood that he isn't keen ... http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-prepared-offload-papiss-6553821 Just in relation to that Ryder article.....since when has a squad now become a 'roster' in football speak? Fucking yankisms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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