Guest icemanblue Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'd like him to stay, but €18m would be too good to turn down. Why? In what way is that an amount we simply couldn't say no to? He cost more than half of that. We sold Andy Carroll for £35m. That was too good to turn down, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 genuine question, where would we have finished last season if Chelsea had signed Cisse instead of Ba, and Ba stayed? Probably a couple of places higher, but that's not really the point. Also, Chelsea would have done much better as well. That's a good point!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 genuine question, where would we have finished last season if Chelsea had signed Cisse instead of Ba, and Ba stayed? Probably a couple of places higher, but that's not really the point. Also, Chelsea would have done much better as well. Not sure how you can claim something so factual from an alternative reality scenario, especially considering Cisse's form this season past. I don't subscribe to this notion that the other players and Pardew failed Cisse any more than he failed them at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'd like him to stay, but €18m would be too good to turn down. Why? In what way is that an amount we simply couldn't say no to? He cost more than half of that. We sold Andy Carroll for £35m. That was too good to turn down, man. This. We'd be daft as fuck selling Cissé now IMO. Every day that would go by with having Shola as our only striker would be a fucking nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 genuine question, where would we have finished last season if Chelsea had signed Cisse instead of Ba, and Ba stayed? Probably a couple of places higher, but that's not really the point. Also, Chelsea would have done much better as well. Not sure how you can claim something so factual from an alternative reality scenario, especially considering Cisse's form this season past. I don't subscribe to this notion that the other players and Pardew failed Cisse any more than he failed them at all. Whey I'm not claiming it's factual, I'm speculating as I was asked by the question. Obviously it's impossible to tell... I just think in Chelsea's team Cisse would score loads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 better linesman at the bridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Shouldn't be selling him, we should be finding a few players/a system that works with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 genuine question, where would we have finished last season if Chelsea had signed Cisse instead of Ba, and Ba stayed? Probably a couple of places higher, but that's not really the point. Also, Chelsea would have done much better as well. Not sure how you can claim something so factual from an alternative reality scenario, especially considering Cisse's form this season past. I don't subscribe to this notion that the other players and Pardew failed Cisse any more than he failed them at all. Whey I'm not claiming it's factual, I'm speculating as I was asked by the question. Obviously it's impossible to tell... I just think in Chelsea's team Cisse would score loads. Ba scored 1/2 in 11+ league games didnt he? Hardly a stretch to say Cisse would have done better considering he suits their football more imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SweMatt Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'd like him to stay, but €18m would be too good to turn down. Why? In what way is that an amount we simply couldn't say no to? He cost more than half of that. We sold Andy Carroll for £35m. That was too good to turn down, man. This. We'd be daft as f*** selling Cissé now IMO. Every day that would go by with having Shola as our only striker would be a f***ing nightmare. Obviously, we shouldn't sell him without having at least two replacements lined up. But for €18m, we should be able to get players just as good or better. IMO, Cisse over achieved the first season and was terribly poor this season. £35m for Carroll was just ... well, insanity. If I could finance two quality strikers for €18m, then I would sell Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'd like him to stay, but €18m would be too good to turn down. Why? In what way is that an amount we simply couldn't say no to? He cost more than half of that. We sold Andy Carroll for £35m. That was too good to turn down, man. This. We'd be daft as f*** selling Cissé now IMO. Every day that would go by with having Shola as our only striker would be a f***ing nightmare. Obviously, we shouldn't sell him without having at least two replacements lined up. But for €18m, we should be able to get players just as good or better. IMO, Cisse over achieved the first season and was terribly poor this season. £35m for Carroll was just ... well, insanity. If I could finance two quality strikers for €18m, then I would sell Cisse. Which two do you think you can get with £15m that are both better? Baring in mind the extra wages of two players instead of one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'd be very interested to hear the answer to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 also 2 new strikers and who knows how long they'll take to adapt to the premiership and our team/tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'd be very interested to hear the answer to that. Me too, but it's irrelevant as keeping Cisse wouldn't mean we'd get another first team striker for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Would not sell for £18mil, need to add to strikers not sell them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Currently we need two more strikers. If Cisse goes that's 3. In that scenario £20m isn't really too good to turn down at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SweMatt Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Auba and Bony should be around the £10m each, so we'd have to add a few pounds, but still within being reasonable. Now, I haven't seen them play a lot but their track record is just as good as Cisse's when he joined us. This season, Cisse was not nearly a £15m player. I can't believe how many games I watched him being absolutely useless. Offsides, poor decisions and lack of confidence. I just can't see him going back to his previous form, and we really should be able to get a better player for that kind of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Currently we need two more strikers. If Cisse goes that's 3. In that scenario £20m isn't really too good to turn down at all. Depends on whether we persist with a lone forward and what our plans for Campbell are next season. One new first team forward to challenge Cisse may be sufficient if we only want to play one up top (would require bringing in at least one winger for the left) and we see Campbell as fourth choice behind Cisse, new guy and Gouffran. Discounting Shola as an option obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Auba and Bony should be around the £10m each, so we'd have to add a few pounds, but still within being reasonable. Now, I haven't seen them play a lot but their track record is just as good as Cisse's when he joined us. This season, Cisse was not nearly a £15m player. I can't believe how many games I watched him being absolutely useless. Offsides, poor decisions and lack of confidence. I just can't see him going back to his previous form, and we really should be able to get a better player for that kind of money. This is a completely baffling point of view TBH. If we're going to assume that nobody who had a bad season this year can improve then we may as well sell everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Auba and Bony should be around the £10m each, so we'd have to add a few pounds, but still within being reasonable. Now, I haven't seen them play a lot but their track record is just as good as Cisse's when he joined us. This season, Cisse was not nearly a £15m player. I can't believe how many games I watched him being absolutely useless. Offsides, poor decisions and lack of confidence. I just can't see him going back to his previous form, and we really should be able to get a better player for that kind of money. This is a completely baffling point of view TBH. If we're going to assume that nobody who had a bad season this year can improve then we may as well sell everyone. Exactly. Far too many itching to sell our players when really we only need a few additions on top of what we already have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SweMatt Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Auba and Bony should be around the £10m each, so we'd have to add a few pounds, but still within being reasonable. Now, I haven't seen them play a lot but their track record is just as good as Cisse's when he joined us. This season, Cisse was not nearly a £15m player. I can't believe how many games I watched him being absolutely useless. Offsides, poor decisions and lack of confidence. I just can't see him going back to his previous form, and we really should be able to get a better player for that kind of money. This is a completely baffling point of view TBH. If we're going to assume that nobody who had a bad season this year can improve then we may as well sell everyone. I can see a lot of players doing a lot better next season. Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, S Taylor and Marveaux just to name a few. I don't think Cisse, Jonas or Shola will improve though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Put it this way, if Cisse had done for another club, say Villa, what he has done for us since joining (i.e. one brilliant half season, one mediocre full season) would you be happy to pay 16 million+ for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 If they offered 18-20m id take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 cisse definitely improved as the season went on, unfortunately for him the rest of the team didnt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 If they offered 18-20m id take it. And then what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 If they offered 18-20m id take it. And then what? Enjoy those bank balances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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