Dr.Spaceman Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Is it any wonder that we've played well without him in the side to neutralise every attack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Kick up the arse he might need. Alreet Yoda! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Kick up the arse he might need. Alreet Yoda! http://s24.postimg.org/obqjj21np/papiss_yoda.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Kick up the arse he might need. Alreet Yoda! http://s24.postimg.org/obqjj21np/papiss_yoda.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I thought up front was the one area we looked a bit short today. I can't remember any of our forwards having a genuine chance, and there was one Remy cross in the first half that was just begging for a striker to be attacking it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Cisse would have been 30 yards out or behind the keeper 10 seconds before the cross came in mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I thought up front was the one area we looked a bit short today. I can't remember any of our forwards having a genuine chance, and there was one Remy cross in the first half that was just begging for a striker to be attacking it. Yeah i know what you mean, can't totally blame the red card for this as it was seemingly the case prior to the red as well however once Mbiwa did go, it was always going to be a case of chasing shadows for Ben Arfa that moment onwards and just hope to counter well, which in fairness, we did very well at. I think the biggest chance went begging when Tiote never had the vision to wait about a second longer for Ben Arfa on the overlap to slide him in, he opted to have a strike and scuffed it. Obviously Remy had two brilliant breaks but great last ditch tackles have to be applauded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would play him against the mackems. Think it would be perfect for him to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I thought up front was the one area we looked a bit short today. I can't remember any of our forwards having a genuine chance, and there was one Remy cross in the first half that was just begging for a striker to be attacking it. Yeah i know what you mean, can't totally blame the red card for this as it was seemingly the case prior to the red as well however once Mbiwa did go, it was always going to be a case of chasing shadows for Ben Arfa that moment onwards and just hope to counter well, which in fairness, we did very well at. I think the biggest chance went begging when Tiote never had the vision to wait about a second longer for Ben Arfa on the overlap to slide him in, he opted to have a strike and scuffed it. Obviously Remy had two brilliant breaks but great last ditch tackles have to be applauded. Think Tiote just got excited tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would play him against the mackems. Think it would be perfect for him to score. Drop who? Hatem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would play him against the mackems. Think it would be perfect for him to score. Drop who? Hatem? Gouffran. Bring him on if Cisse looks poor again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would play him against the mackems. Think it would be perfect for him to score. Drop who? Hatem? Gouffran. Bring him on if Cisse looks poor again. Why change what appears to be working quite well for now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would play him against the mackems. Think it would be perfect for him to score. Drop who? Hatem? Gouffran. Bring him on if Cisse looks poor again. No thanks, one of the reasons we looked strong on the right side v Liverpool was because of Gouffrans work ethic which Debuchy benefited from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would play him against the mackems. Think it would be perfect for him to score. Drop who? Hatem? Gouffran. Bring him on if Cisse looks poor again. Seems a touch unfair, but can see the argument for it. Might be academical anyway; I'd be staggered if the Gouff has enough time to get his breath back for the mackems the way he looked at the final whistle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would play him against the mackems. Think it would be perfect for him to score. Drop who? Hatem? Gouffran. Bring him on if Cisse looks poor again. Why change what appears to be working quite well for now? Just thought that we lacked something with Ben Arfa down the middle of the front 3. Felt like he needed someone else ahead of him to play in rather than he be the last man. I would be equally happy switching Remy with Ben Arfa and leaving Gouff in tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would play him against the mackems. Think it would be perfect for him to score. Drop who? Hatem? Gouffran. Bring him on if Cisse looks poor again. Why change what appears to be working quite well for now? Just thought that we lacked something with Ben Arfa down the middle of the front 3. Felt like he needed someone else ahead of him to play in rather than he be the last man. I would be equally happy switching Remy with Ben Arfa and leaving Gouff in tbh. I know where you're coming from, but Remy and Gouff had excellent games in terms of protecting their fullbacks. We benefitted from that massively. If anyone is to drop out, for me, it's Hatem. However, I think he'll give us more than Cisse is at the minute, and will be a fantastic outlet on the break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would play him against the mackems. Think it would be perfect for him to score. Drop who? Hatem? Gouffran. Bring him on if Cisse looks poor again. Why change what appears to be working quite well for now? Just thought that we lacked something with Ben Arfa down the middle of the front 3. Felt like he needed someone else ahead of him to play in rather than he be the last man. I would be equally happy switching Remy with Ben Arfa and leaving Gouff in tbh. I know where you're coming from, but Remy and Gouff had excellent games in terms of protecting their fullbacks. We benefitted from that massively. If anyone is to drop out, for me, it's Hatem. However, I think he'll give us more than Cisse is at the minute, and will be a fantastic outlet on the break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I understand what Gouff brings in cover for the full back, but I'd still be tempted to go with him centrally with Remy left and Ben Arfa right of him. I think that has everybody in their natural positions, and might mean Debuchy should show more constraint going forward, but all in all I think that would see us better off. I find it quite strange that Gouffran has been given the nod ahead of Cisse twice in a row, and is yet to play centrally, which is arguably his best position and also suits Remy and Ben Arfa better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Sam Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I understand what Gouff brings in cover for the full back, but I'd still be tempted to go with him centrally with Remy left and Ben Arfa right of him. I think that has everybody in their natural positions, and might mean Debuchy should show more constraint going forward, but all in all I think that would see us better off. I find it quite strange that Gouffran has been given the nod ahead of Cisse twice in a row, and is yet to play centrally, which is arguably his best position and also suits Remy and Ben Arfa better. Would agree with you here. Ben Arfa isn't a centre forward and Gouffran played up front for Bordeaux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I understand what Gouff brings in cover for the full back, but I'd still be tempted to go with him centrally with Remy left and Ben Arfa right of him. I think that has everybody in their natural positions, and might mean Debuchy should show more constraint going forward, but all in all I think that would see us better off. I find it quite strange that Gouffran has been given the nod ahead of Cisse twice in a row, and is yet to play centrally, which is arguably his best position and also suits Remy and Ben Arfa better. The issue is teams have highlighted teh Debuchy/HBA combo as a defensive weakness. Both go walkies. Debuchy in particular just needs to concentrate on defending for awhile and being solid. So I understand why Gouff plays there. I would also like to see Gouff through the middle. He deserves a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Debuchy and Santon's positioning has been more to do with how we look to set up, in my opinion. Of course, they are attacking full backs but Pardew seems to be trying to find a balance with an 'offensive look', fiddling with the midfield while the FBs are told to get up high. Recent games suggest he may have learnt his lesson, however. Hatem was was doing well defensively until he was made the focal point of the team, I have faith he and Debuchy could work together. Gouff deserves his run though, hopefully HBA's taking notes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Is there anything left in this guy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Sell him, busted flush this lad, as much as i hate to say it but he is just awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Shame we resolved the Wonga problem. Should've sold him to Russia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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