Ryan_Taylor Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Can't wait to see him at the derby, cannot see it ending well for his (in)sanity! 'You're just a sad fascist bastard' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Politics and football are linked. End of story. can you expand on that? I already have earlier in the thread. Football clubs represent people and places. They inevitably take on the political identity of those places. Just because the game is a global money making machine does not change that. Barca-Real isn't the biggest game in world football because they're two very good teams. they do if the places have a political identity to speak of, what's NUFC's politics identity out of interest? i'd suggest there are a few exceptions in the game where politics and teams are inextricably linked and mixed, but it's very far from the norm especially in the UK I think Sky and the emergence of the Premier League has sanitised the game in this country, but to suggest that UK clubs don't have a political identity is a bit daft even if it is less overt than in other nations. I'd consider clubs like Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea etc. to all have a political identity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Can't wait to see him at the derby, cannot see it ending well for his (in)sanity! 'You're just a sad fascist bastard' we should plaster the ground with anti-racism shit, cover the sports direct signs and that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 "Nope. I've been in Swindon for around 20 years and PdC has joined the ranks of beloved Swindon managers like Lou Macari and Glenn Hoddle. PdC is what I would describe as just on the right side of madness, but I never saw anything that didn't make me think that his heart wasn't in the right place. How many Graun writers would complain if a band had a photoshoot with the dictator Raul Castro, or wore a T-shirt of Che Guevara, a man who had people executed without trial? Given the choice (and it's hardly a good one), I'd rather have lived under Mussolini than Castro." Swindon Young COnservatives Club looks like good opportunity to get on a soapbox.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Politics and football are linked. End of story. can you expand on that? I already have earlier in the thread. Football clubs represent people and places. They inevitably take on the political identity of those places. Just because the game is a global money making machine does not change that. Barca-Real isn't the biggest game in world football because they're two very good teams. they do if the places have a political identity to speak of, what's NUFC's politics identity out of interest? i'd suggest there are a few exceptions in the game where politics and teams are inextricably linked and mixed, but it's very far from the norm especially in the UK I think Sky and the emergence of the Premier League has sanitised the game in this country, but to suggest that UK clubs don't have a political identity is a bit daft even if it is less overt than in other nations. I'd consider clubs like Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea etc. to all have a political identity. perhaps my interpretation of political identity differs from yours, i'd say it certainly does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Looks like an extremist regime is developing already down there. Just seen bits of the farcical/comical press conference and there was a hysterical sounding woman continually screeching at reporters that they could not ask the questions that most people, including Sunderland fans, wanted answers to. So press freedom of speech is now banned at SAFC. They just keep digging a deeper hole for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'd rather have lived under Mussolini than Castro." Swindon Young COnservatives Club anyone have the full quotes from when di canio said he was a fascist and was misquoted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Their fans are always complaining they are ignored in the media - they've got their wish now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 What I can't believe is how naive Sunderland as a football has been towards this whole saga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Sky Sports keep saying stuff like: New Regime. New Leader. They probably use those words all the time, but they've taken a new twist now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 what I've found funny is the line from the likes of Bird and Caulkin is, "crazy presser! PdC very outspoken.... Anyway, off to Lisbon now!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'd rather have lived under Mussolini than Castro." Swindon Young COnservatives Club anyone have the full quotes from when di canio said he was a fascist and was misquoted? In that press conference yesterday, i dont think he said he was 'misquoted', just complained that the media had taken that one quote ("I am a fascist, not a racist") and used it to portray him negatively. He has never denied saying it, or claimed to have been misquoted as far as i've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 What I can't believe is how naive Sunderland as a football has been towards this whole saga. Really. This is a place where they still find the word 'coloured' as an acceptable way of describing black footballers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Walked out of his press conference according to this: http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/04/02/no-questions-allowed-fascist-manager-arrives-at-sunderland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Walked out of his press conference according to this: http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/04/02/no-questions-allowed-fascist-manager-arrives-at-sunderland? Oh Dear! graeme anderson@sunechograeme 1h Kicks off big style in nationals with direct questions:"Are you a fascist, yes or no" Press conf. Press conf cut short. Hell on as they say. graeme anderson@sunechograeme 1h Fair to say, Paolo might struggle to get a positive spin in the nationals. Club could get a kicking too. Interesting times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Whats with all this "third person" referrence nonsense...batshit crazy loony tune this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 At least people now know who Sunderland are. Instead of tagging "it's near Newcastle", they can add "managed by a fascist". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 still referring to himself in the third person Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Was any of this brought up when he was Swindon manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 swinden, according to that quality article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Was any of this brought up when he was Swindon manager? Its been said before, there are other reasons this has made headlines, but one is undoutedly that Sunderland are a higher profile club than Swindon, and top flight (for the time being). Its much like us and the Wonga deal. Not as many headlines when they sponsored Blackpool And Hearts(?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 did anybody hear radio newcastle on about fascism about 9am this morning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Politics and football are linked. End of story. can you expand on that? I already have earlier in the thread. Football clubs represent people and places. They inevitably take on the political identity of those places. Just because the game is a global money making machine does not change that. Barca-Real isn't the biggest game in world football because they're two very good teams. This is utter nonsense - NUFC is in what is generally accepted as a Labour voting area, but many of the fans share a love of the club whilst having totally different views about politics - and politics should NOT enter sport, OR be linked to it. Hitler tried that in the 30s but the England Team(and Jesse Owens in the Olympics)rammed that down his throat....similarly, the Soviets and Chinese have both tried to use sport to boost Communism and ironically, the Chinese have only started to show at the top of Olympic medal tables since they moved away from Maoism and to what is basically a Capitalist economy. Ask the likes of Olga Korbut and various Iron Curtain gymnasts what they thought of sport being used to foster a political agenda... As for Barca and Real, the only way they represent a political viewpoint is because the Catalans want autonomy from Spain and they identify Barca's successes with that aim, just as Real fans use Madrid as an emblem of Spanish would-be supremacy. There is NO similar situation in the UK unless you use the former rivalry between Celtic and Rangers and that is based on religion rather than politics - another thing which should be kept separate from sport. If you are trying to identify NUFC and most other Northern sides with the left wing of politics, it is hardly worth it if you subscribe to that view because apart from the 2 Manchester clubs, one of whom has many southerners in its fan-base, the northern clubs are not as successful whereas clubs in London(viewed by many Northerners as a den of Toryism)like Spurs and Arsenal have been more successful...... Politics has NO place in football whatsoever - either to boost the Right OR the Left and every effort should be made to keep the 2 separate. I agree with Felipao's views about the whole thing and about Di Canio... As I said before, I am far more concerned about his possible impact on the Mackems - and hence, on our chances of relegation - than any madcap political stance/demonstration he might make. If he replicates his successes at Swindon, any Socialists in the Sunderland fan-base won't give 2 stuffs about his views.... As Felipao said, we should be far more concerned about appointing a Lge 1 manager with a dodgy managerial record behind him........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Fascist this and fascist that. Why hasn't he been hounded out of England yet? Why was he allowed back in the country to begin with? Are Swindon fans who wanted the club to keep him "a bit special" too? His political views are absolutely irrelevant. He's a football manager, end of story Number of black managers in the top flight = zero. Chris Hughton says hello PMSL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 The whole appointment has descended into a shit storm already Mind, putting the whole rivalry aside there's a whole hoast of old school loyal fans like the miners association who are generally shocked and appalled at the whole thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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