Incognito Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The goal was Colo's fault, not sure how anyone could argue against that. It's TCD. Anything is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I think Jamie Carragher knows more about defending than you and even he said someone needed to make that challenge. IMO it should have been Anita as your CB pushing up like that isn't ideal when he's second favourite. That's a weakness Anita has that he can't rectify because he's so small - so if he's not going to challenge for the ball in his area he MUST be sharp to the second-ball and this is where he makes a big mistake. For the first goal he's just ball-watching and gets attracted to the aerial duel while Ward-Prowse is anticipating the knock-down which allows him to get the pass to assist. So the problem here is 2 fold. If Abeid or Tiote where playing - they would be the ones challenging in the air with Pelle allowing the back 4 to hold a consistent shape. With Anita we either a) let players bring the ball down in front of our defence b) have a defender push up and try and win it. In both scenarios Anita must effect the game by reading the second-ball. He didn't do this which is a massive mistake. The third part here is that when Colo pushes up. The defence must become a back 3 and Janmaat must tuck in. Janmaat doesn't do that twice giving Elia that split second advantage. But we wouldn't have to concern ourselves with that if we had a DM to challenge for headers in midfield positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Nor would we had the centre half not gone AWOL . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The goal was Colo's fault, not sure how anyone could argue against that. Honestly - some of you are clueless about football. For the first goal, Colo loses a header about 40 yards away from goal. As a result two passes that could have been easily intervened happen. How can it primarily be Colo's fault? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 He is not suitable to EPL's defensive midfielder requirement. Experiment failed. That's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Anyone remember that John Thompson football fan character in the Fast Show? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The goal was Colo's fault, not sure how anyone could argue against that. Honestly - some of you are clueless about football. For the first goal, Colo loses a header about 40 yards away from goal. As a result two passes that could have been easily intervened happen. How can it primarily be Colo's fault? Because he went challenging for a ball that he couldn't win.? Ignore him ST. He's a fucking simpleton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Anyone remember that John Thompson football fan character in the Fast Show? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The goal was Colo's fault, not sure how anyone could argue against that. Honestly - some of you are clueless about football. For the first goal, Colo loses a header about 40 yards away from goal. As a result two passes that could have been easily intervened happen. How can it primarily be Colo's fault? Jesus fucking christ man :lol: :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I still have belief in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Most boring poster. Worst football poster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I still have belief in him. Good to see your support for TCD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I still have belief in him. Good to see your support for TCD [emoji2] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I don't see how you grow up playing football and don't see what i'm talking about. You don't let players bring the ball down in front of your defence - without a challenge. SOMEBODY HAS TO CHALLENGE HIM. It should be the DM not the CB. This is moments before the first goal and highlights the problem. A long ball is pumped up. Dummett's come way out to challenge for it despite it being in a CM/DM zone. If Tiote or Abeid is on the pitch - they would challenge for that ball. Anita has zero interest and seems to be picking up Ward-Prowse anyway which while not ideal is okay - because ward-prowse is the danger if Pelle wins the ball. According to people here - Dummett would be at fault if we conceded. http://s27.postimg.org/unk5hrgnz/1_Dummett.jpg 1. Look at how far away from the goal this is. 2. Anita is meant to be picking up Ward-Prowse, he should be able to see where WP wants the ball and anticipate it. Anita is ball-watching. 3. Janmaat should be closing that gap between himself and Dummett http://s4.postimg.org/kjxy2niah/2_anita_goal_side_ward_prowse.jpg Anita you had 1 job. How has WP been allowed to do this? Janmaat's positioning is horrible. Krul should save it anyway. http://s4.postimg.org/6mg8gq15l/4_Ward.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The goal was Colo's fault, not sure how anyone could argue against that. Honestly - some of you are clueless about football. For the first goal, Colo loses a header about 40 yards away from goal. As a result two passes that could have been easily intervened happen. How can it primarily be Colo's fault? Because he went challenging for a ball that he couldn't win.? That might have had something to do with us refusing to sign a proper big centre half who would do that by default. Colo ends up being midfield playmaker, auxiliary left back, sweeper and John Terry all in the same 90 mins. There again, we could always play the towering 6ft midget Willo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Because of the type of player he is I don't think he's ever going to win over some of his doubters. I'd still have him in above Colback but that is probably more just because I hate the little ginger scrote. Ideally I'd play neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 How sad are you TCD? That analysis of Anita to prove a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him. It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him. It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details. All evening Pelle came tremendously deep to win long-balls and the CB's where uncomfortable coming out so far. Anita was always close by but was seemingly picking up WP. Normally, Tiote would go for those long-balls. Around the 21 minute mark Dummett wins the first header against Pelle, gets scared that he's so deep he runs back towards goal and Pelle has the second ball to himself. The 2 hiding midgets nowhere in sight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him. It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details. No he doesn't. The ball is 40 yards from goal. It's as simple as that. Pelle is no threat there with his back to goal and the ball in the air. It only becomes dangerous once Coloccini neglects the back line that he should be marshalling, and attempts to win a ball he has no chance of winning, thus leaving us one short at the back. Seriously it's a schoolboy error to the nth degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Krul is definitely the most at fault for the first goal like Edit: Wait are you talking about the first or second goal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him. It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details. No he doesn't. The ball is 40 yards from goal. It's as simple as that. Pelle is no threat there with his back to goal and the ball in the air. It only becomes dangerous once Coloccini neglects the back line that he should be marshalling, and attempts to win a ball he has no chance of winning, thus leaving us one short at the back. Seriously it's a schoolboy error to the nth degree. Colo (Or Dummett) should be touch tight with Pelle when he comes deep, simple. That's the mistake there. But you cannot left a centre forward bring the ball down on his chest surrounded by no-one, under no pressure within 40 yards of our goal. Also, we weren't one short at the back as they only had Elia there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him. It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details. No he doesn't. The ball is 40 yards from goal. It's as simple as that. Pelle is no threat there with his back to goal and the ball in the air. It only becomes dangerous once Coloccini neglects the back line that he should be marshalling, and attempts to win a ball he has no chance of winning, thus leaving us one short at the back. Seriously it's a schoolboy error to the nth degree. Exactly. Further errors were made but they all stemmed from Colo's misjudgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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