r0cafella Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Anita is a better play technically and tactically for me. His stature is a massive flaw in this league mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 It was widely talked about within the club to have Tiote play a DM role, Anita a ball playing central midfielder and Cabaye further forward. Pardew was noted for saying shit like "Keep the ball, win the game" or something, basically alluding to us having a central midfield set out to pass teams off the pitch. Anyway, there were a number of players at fault for both goals. And talking about fees recovered for a player who is terribly out of form and underused like Anita is pointless. There's only a small handful of players who would command a premium on their fees we originally paid and most of that is down to the mismanagement and use (lack-of) by our former manager, Alan Pardew. Again, shocking that this needs to be brought up and repeated again - should be obvious by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 This thread us all about what people think Anita is capable of against others pointing out what he actually does. He does f*** all, he doesn't beat an opponent to get beyond them, he wants too much time on the ball, he loses concentration, he doesn't break up play, he's easily pushed off the ball and he offers very little creativity. Pointing out the odd but of good play doesn't wash. I don't care where he plays, he's not going to be good enough for this league and we have better options for what he'd offer in any position. There's posts on here suggesting he could dictate play if played in the correct position. Bollocks could he. He needs a slower, less physical league. He's trundled around the pitch like little boy lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 This thread us all about what people think Anita is capable of against others pointing out what he actually does. He does f*** all, he doesn't beat an opponent to get beyond them, he wants too much time on the ball, he loses concentration, he doesn't break up play, he's easily pushed off the ball and he offers very little creativity. Pointing out the odd but of good play doesn't wash. I don't care where he plays, he's not going to be good enough for this league and we have better options for what he'd offer in any position. There's posts on here suggesting he could dictate play if played in the correct position. Bollocks could he. He needs a slower, less physical league. He's trundled around the pitch like little boy lost. Because Tiote is so much better because he flies into tackles, concedes fouls on the edge of the area and needless yellows? His distribution is absolutely no better than Anita's. Play Abeid alongside Anita to offer some physical compensation, not the passenger that is Colback. People on here also seem to neglect the point that confidence is an issue for players, also. If you were frozen out by your manager for a matter of seasons and now found yourself in the team only because another player is on International duty, whilst the system doesn't play anywhere near to your strengths, you probably wouldn't feel too great about yourself. I like him as a player, and although he's not the answer to our problems he would definitely benefit the team given a run in the team under a competent manager. It's just so frustrating reading people dismiss him because he 'can't cope with the physicality of the Premiership' etc. He is one of our better players and we are not utilising him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 This thread us all about what people think Anita is capable of against others pointing out what he actually does. He does f*** all, he doesn't beat an opponent to get beyond them, he wants too much time on the ball, he loses concentration, he doesn't break up play, he's easily pushed off the ball and he offers very little creativity. Pointing out the odd but of good play doesn't wash. I don't care where he plays, he's not going to be good enough for this league and we have better options for what he'd offer in any position. There's posts on here suggesting he could dictate play if played in the correct position. Bollocks could he. He needs a slower, less physical league. He's trundled around the pitch like little boy lost. Because Tiote is so much better because he flies into tackles, concedes fouls on the edge of the area and needless yellows? His distribution is absolutely no better than Anita's. Play Abeid alongside Anita to offer some physical compensation, not the passenger that is Colback. People on here also seem to neglect the point that confidence is an issue for players, also. If you were frozen out by your manager for a matter of seasons and now found yourself in the team only because another player is on International duty, whilst the system doesn't play anywhere near to your strengths, you probably wouldn't feel too great about yourself. I like him as a player, and although he's not the answer to our problems he would definitely benefit the team given a run in the team under a competent manager. It's just so frustrating reading people dismiss him because he 'can't cope with the physicality of the Premiership' etc. He is one of our better players and we are not utilising him. Your last sentence is laughable. Tiote is a walking disaster at the moment but is still a better option than Anita. Colback has been far better than Anita. He's had his chances, he's not taken them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I wouldn't say no to NUFC selling Anita and Tiote as long as they were replaced. Tiote is a danger to the team and Anita doesn't impact the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 http://www.insidefutbol.com/2015/01/22/i-still-cant-believe-vurnon-anitas-transfer-to-newcastle-united-psv-eindhoven-technical-director/184996/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Been said before but Anita's signing never made sense at the time and still doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Been said before but Anita's signing never made sense at the time and still doesn't. Playing the long game. It'll make sense when De Boer takes over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Been said before but Anita's signing never made sense at the time and still doesn't. Still think it was with one eye on selling Cabaye that summer of the right offer came in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Been said before but Anita's signing never made sense at the time and still doesn't. Still think it was with one eye on selling Cabaye that summer of the right offer came in. Maybe. But now that he has gone he's never looked like filling his boots sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Anyone remember that John Thompson football fan character in the Fast Show? Oh my god! On the money. "Soccer!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 http://www.insidefutbol.com/2015/01/22/i-still-cant-believe-vurnon-anitas-transfer-to-newcastle-united-psv-eindhoven-technical-director/184996/ Hopefully now people will stop thinking he's capable of something. He's shit, has always been shit and will always be shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 This is an utterly pointless thread at the moment like. Until he's played in a 3 under a competent manager there's no point in really discussing it, everything is hypothetical unless that happens. Until then it's just people going 'he's shit' and other people going 'he'd be good in a 3 under a decent manager' over and over but for the usual boring, horse shit dressed up as knowing better from TCD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm more inclined to trust the words of his former manager, rather than PSV's technical director, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 He's certainly a decent footballer. He'll never make much of an impression in this league, though. Doesn't have the assertiveness/physicality to dominate games, or the ability to change them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I cannot imagine a reality where I take the words of PSV's technical director as gospel like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Someone email the lad and ask him what he makes of Cabella please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 This is an utterly pointless thread at the moment like. Until he's played in a 3 under a competent manager there's no point in really discussing it, everything is hypothetical unless that happens. Until then it's just people going 'he's shit' and other people going 'he'd be good in a 3 under a decent manager' over and over but for the usual boring, horse shit dressed up as knowing better from TCD. It's not completely hypothetical given we have over 50 games of evidence which suggests he isn't good enough. Quality players have still impressed throughout this tragic era. Vurn hasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Always been shit? Let's pick a random page from this thread. How about this one: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,92469.3450.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Hasn't 'always been shit' by any means. On the whole though he has proven to be a fairly pointless individual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Apart from those times when he wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 He's had his chances, he's not taken them. while i'm tempted to agree i think we should not forget who he's been getting these chances under, pardew and carver, and the style of play and quality of coaching both display if we get a decent manager playing a decent system in the summer and he still doesn't flourish then aye he's not taken his chances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 He's had his chances, he's not taken them. while i'm tempted to agree i think we should not forget who he's been getting these chances under, pardew and carver, and the style of play and quality of coaching both display if we get a decent manager playing a decent system in the summer and he still doesn't flourish then aye he's not taken his chances The sensible and non dramatic way to look at things. By this point I thought most figured out the Pardew effect was real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Also who gives a flying fuck about what some PSV tech director said? Frank De Boer couldn't stop praising him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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