worthy Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I agree, I am not so sure that Pardew isnt a part of the reasoning for Colo wanting to leave. Might be my blind disgust for him that helps me think this though, I wont hide behind that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 If Colo wanted to move because of Pardew there would be a line of clubs looking to take him, he wouldnt be going back to a skint club in Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Yeah you are probably right about that, sounds way more logical (I am not being sarcastic btw) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I'm happy to keep this Colo business separate from my criticism of Pardew as a manager for now like. I'm not. While I think Colo is bang out of order in asking for a move after penning a new deal, it's hardly a surprise players are getting disillusioned with our haphazard playing style and results. Ben Arfa will be next unless things change sooner rather than later. It's like the players themselves have no influence whatsoever on the playing style, performances and results... The players need to pull their socks up and start playing to their ability. Instead, our esteemed captain decides now would be a good time to declare he wants to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Once the players are on the pitch it's up to them to put a performance in, individual errors have cost us as has a massive injury list. I'm not sticking up for Pardew as he is accountable for our preperation but the players need to take a lot of the blame for recent performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 If Colo wanted to move because of Pardew there would be a line of clubs looking to take him, he wouldnt be going back to a skint club in Argentina. If were getting results anything like last season I think players would be less likely to be homesick. It might not be the main reason, but it has to be a factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 But then that's putting the results all down to Pardew which they aren't. Colo as club captain should be looking at the players around him who haven't been performing and trying to get the best out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 But then that's putting the results all down to Pardew which they aren't. Colo as club captain should be looking at the players around him who haven't been performing and trying to get the best out of them. Well I do put the results down to Pardew. Players can only play according to their ability. You could stick Yohane Cabaye up front and ask him to try 100% to win aerial battles with Hangelaand, he's not going to be able to do it. Pardew has us playing wrong football. It's just WRONG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Not many of our players are playing to their ability though, which is partly but not completely down to Pardew/tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I'm happy to keep this Colo business separate from my criticism of Pardew as a manager for now like. I'm not. While I think Colo is bang out of order in asking for a move after penning a new deal, it's hardly a surprise players are getting disillusioned with our haphazard playing style and results. Ben Arfa will be next unless things change sooner rather than later. All we 'know' is that Colo wants to leave for personal reasons. There are plenty enough things to criticise Pardew for without automatically assuming this has something to do with him as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Yeah and some of the players have clearly not been playing to their ability. We've had to play a kid who was a bit part player in a relegated Championship team last season, 4 or 5 of our 'better' players have all been out at the same time for a large number of games. We have a small squad and massively out performed where we should have been last season, we shouldn't be in the bottom 5 this season either but neither should we be in the top 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 If Colo wanted to move because of Pardew there would be a line of clubs looking to take him, he wouldnt be going back to a skint club in Argentina. If were getting results anything like last season I think players would be less likely to be homesick. It might not be the main reason, but it has to be a factor. Nothing like getting a move from a struggling PL team to a skint struggling Argentine team. Makes perfect sense. Lets sharpen the pitchforks! Its raining today, I bet its Pardew's fault. The weather isn't happy with the way we're playing so its pissing in protest over Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 If Colo wanted to move because of Pardew there would be a line of clubs looking to take him, he wouldnt be going back to a skint club in Argentina. Haven't read any of the last few pages but it must boil down to personal issues at home for Colo. Homesick, issues with the wife, whatever. The quotes from Pardew after the QPR game seemed to indicate that he was having a hard time focusing. Don't think Pardew is to blame for this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 If Colo wanted to move because of Pardew there would be a line of clubs looking to take him, he wouldnt be going back to a skint club in Argentina. If were getting results anything like last season I think players would be less likely to be homesick. It might not be the main reason, but it has to be a factor. So he's leaving as he does not fancy a relegation scrap and hates the manager, whilst on the biggest contract at the club? Absolute nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 serious domestic problems for colo & wife if they are ready give up all that money his current contract is worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Its raining today, I bet its Pardew's fault. The weather isn't happy with the way we're playing so its pissing in protest over Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 If Colo wanted to move because of Pardew there would be a line of clubs looking to take him, he wouldnt be going back to a skint club in Argentina. If were getting results anything like last season I think players would be less likely to be homesick. It might not be the main reason, but it has to be a factor. There you go again. You're a naughty little bugger, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 If Colo wanted to move because of Pardew there would be a line of clubs looking to take him, he wouldnt be going back to a skint club in Argentina. If were getting results anything like last season I think players would be less likely to be homesick. It might not be the main reason, but it has to be a factor. Nothing like getting a move from a struggling PL team to a skint struggling Argentine team. Makes perfect sense. Lets sharpen the pitchforks! Its raining today, I bet its Pardew's fault. The weather isn't happy with the way we're playing so its pissing in protest over Pardew. I knew it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I'm not Pardew's biggest fan but it's a hell of a stretch to be blaming him for Colo based on what we know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 This really will sort out whether he's a good enough manager or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Shouldn't have to deal with the Colo stuff considering the crisis we were already in. The board really have to back him now in the transfer market or there's a very serious risk we will go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Whether you like the man or not, this situation is a rather extraordinary - and largely unfair - test of man management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 If Colo wanted to move because of Pardew there would be a line of clubs looking to take him, he wouldnt be going back to a skint club in Argentina. Haven't read any of the last few pages but it must boil down to personal issues at home for Colo. Homesick, issues with the wife, whatever. The quotes from Pardew after the QPR game seemed to indicate that he was having a hard time focusing. Don't think Pardew is to blame for this one. Bang on. Looks like he's got some serious issues with his personal life, looking at how quickly he wants to leave England (almost as if he's had a run in with a mafia or a fling with a local waitress), and his representatives said he's leaving due to "personal matters." That's the only explanation for the swiftness of this decision to leave, the timing, and more importantly, to his old club where he can be close to his father. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I think Pardew is a fairly good manager. The look on face during the matches reminds me of Fernando Torres or even Cisse at times this season. What he did to bring himself to the position of a Premiership manager and what he did successfully last season isn't working anymore. Frankly, he looks lost like a man who is bereft of confidence. With players, you persist with them, but when managers have unacceptable results that are replaced. I like Pardew, but I believe the time has come for us to move on unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Has he not done his usual pre-match press conference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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