Guest neesy111 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 What does the even mean? ? Not at you, the illiterate one with his standard riposte. I'm sure there's a few things Pards isn't getting right but the way some people go about bashing him is a bit ridic. Pre-match: he'll fuck this up by starting Shola and Jonas Half-time: Villa have been really shit (ignores team selection) Second-half: what the fuck are these tactics/subs (ignores the fact that Villa aren't as shit) Full-time: won in spite of him, he's wank, get him sacked. A lot of the criticisms are genuine and need to be addressed (one game with a 'squad' and a win) but there are people deliberately positioning themselves to give the players all of the credit and the manager all of the abuse to maintain their 'stance'. Haven't seem this much vitriol towards a winning manager for a long time. Seems odd. Winning fucking manager. Glenn Roeder has a better win percentage ffs. 3 wins in 19. Set the worst ever club away record in all competition. Never came back from behind in the league to win 16 months since last goal from a corner. I asked these questions weeks ago to which you never answered back since you completely ignore facts and just on what agenda you have, hence why your view of everything is so narrow-minded and pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 christonabike. You can understand it from the forrin' lot who have only known us to have a managerial roundabout but I'd expect better from old-timers like yourself, Michael. Pardew is a poor manager who is holding us back and we could do a lot better than him if the people who ran the club knew what they were doing. Well, it appears your gripe is with the people running the club - if you're right about Pardew being out of his depth, then he's unlikely to relinquish the role voluntarily, especially if it's leading to him getting professional accolades and recognition in spite of his shortcomings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 You should get your tongue off that window then; there's a risk Lee Ryder's saliva is still on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 The clue to effective attacking / counter attacking was there for all to see in the first half....ball to feet, pass and move. I remain utterly perplexed as to why he found any footballing logic in bringing on shola to encourage hopeless long balls which, as has been the trait of our season & the reason we've three games away. It's not on to be shifting yourself for 40 minutes of a half when your playing teams which are frankly shite-proven by the pasting we dished out in the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Says he feels like he now has a good enough team to go and attack Chelsea, whereas at other times this year he's felt there's been a lack of fire power to set out to attack. We'll see how he goes about it, he's got history with eking out a win to build momentum. See Norwich last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 What does the even mean? ? Not at you, the illiterate one with his standard riposte. I'm sure there's a few things Pards isn't getting right but the way some people go about bashing him is a bit ridic. Pre-match: he'll fuck this up by starting Shola and Jonas Half-time: Villa have been really shit (ignores team selection) Second-half: what the fuck are these tactics/subs (ignores the fact that Villa aren't as shit) Full-time: won in spite of him, he's wank, get him sacked. A lot of the criticisms are genuine and need to be addressed (one game with a 'squad' and a win) but there are people deliberately positioning themselves to give the players all of the credit and the manager all of the abuse to maintain their 'stance'. Haven't seem this much vitriol towards a winning manager for a long time. Seems odd. Winning fucking manager. Glenn Roeder has a better win percentage ffs. 3 wins in 19. Set the worst ever club away record in all competition. Never came back from behind in the league to win 16 months since last goal from a corner. I asked these questions week ago to which you never answered back since you completely ignore facts and just on what agenda you have, hence why your view of everything is so narrow-minded and pathetic. Dear Michael (there's a theme here), You haven't proposed any questions. Just hurled further abuse. Kind regards, Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 :lol: "professional accolades" Stu takes his craft seriously at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Well, it appears your gripe is with the people running the club - if you're right about Pardew being out of his depth, then he's unlikely to relinquish the role voluntarily, especially if it's leading to him getting professional accolades and recognition in spite of his shortcomings. He's won the same professional accolades as Joe Kinnear and George Burley, would you want one of them running the club because of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Says he feels like he now has a good enough team to go and attack Chelsea, whereas at other times this year he's felt there's been a lack of fire power to set out to attack. We'll see how he goes about it, he's got history with eking out a win to build momentum. See Norwich last year. Indeed, like the wins we eked out over Norwich and QPR this year that sent us on big runs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 What an absolute bell-end this bloke is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 What an absolute bell-end this bloke is. Me, Stu or the manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 What an absolute bell-end this bloke is. Me, Stu or the manager? Not you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Winning manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 One of the worst managers I have seen when it comes to decisions during matches. Hope he thanked Krul for saving his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Winning manager. what i said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Says he feels like he now has a good enough team to go and attack Chelsea, whereas at other times this year he's felt there's been a lack of fire power to set out to attack. We'll see how he goes about it, he's got history with eking out a win to build momentum. See Norwich last year. Indeed, like the wins we eked out over Norwich and QPR this year that sent us on big runs. I meant as in he seems to like grinding out a result after a hard run and then releases the shackles a bit. I don't think it's how he should go about stuff but that seems to be his usual style in these circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Not you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Says he feels like he now has a good enough team to go and attack Chelsea, whereas at other times this year he's felt there's been a lack of fire power to set out to attack. We'll see how he goes about it, he's got history with eking out a win to build momentum. See Norwich last year. Indeed, like the wins we eked out over Norwich and QPR this year that sent us on big runs. I meant as in he seems to like grinding out a result after a hard run and then releases the shackles a bit. I don't think it's how he should go about stuff but that seems to be his usual style in these circumstances. As did I; he ground out a result in both those games, and then we lost another load more each time round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 If Pardew is a winning manager, then Kinnear must be close to it as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Well, it appears your gripe is with the people running the club - if you're right about Pardew being out of his depth, then he's unlikely to relinquish the role voluntarily, especially if it's leading to him getting professional accolades and recognition in spite of his shortcomings. He's won the same professional accolades as Joe Kinnear and George Burley, would you want one of them running the club because of that? :lol: "professional accolades" Stu takes his craft seriously at least Did he or did he not? The point isn't about whether or not he deserved them, but if he's genuinely incompetent for the job (as Mick vociferously asserts), then why would he even consider resigning from the role that has allowed him to be richly rewarded for other people's efforts? In that instance, the only change we'll see is if the people running the club accept that Pardew isn't good enough and replace him - so Mick's complaint should be aimed at them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Chances of 1st back to back wins of the season..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 BBC guy: Regarding #nufc - it was reminiscent of performances last season. Decent quality in patches, doses of luck & all three points. Oo la la. Yep. It's not a new thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 if you're right about Pardew being out of his depth, then he's unlikely to relinquish the role voluntarily, especially if it's leading to him getting professional accolades and recognition in spite of his shortcomings. e is if the people running the club accept that Pardew isn't good enough and replace him - so Mick's complaint should be aimed at them. this is a horrifically constrcuted point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Did he or did he not? The point isn't about whether or not he deserved them, but if he's genuinely incompetent for the job (as Mick vociferously asserts), then why would he even consider resigning from the role that has allowed him to be richly rewarded for other people's efforts? In that instance, the only change we'll see is if the people running the club accept that Pardew isn't good enough and replace him - so Mick's complaint should be aimed at them. Do you think Pardew is doing a good job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Pardew really is an awful manager, the only thing worse than his tactical ineptness which we saw in the second half today, is his cowardice. We might not get relegated, with this squad we certainly shouldn't, though it will probably be close. However there is really nothing to look forward to with this clown in charge, no specific style of football, no going after a game and trying to thrash the opposition, just more of what we saw in the second half today. A bunch of fairly talented football players, hoofing the ball absolutely anywhere with no confidence gained (none installed by the manager anyhow) that they were so much better than Villa in the first half that all they had to do was continue to play the way they had been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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