Guest hydeous Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 With two days of the week concentrating on Europe, Carver doesn't have time to tell the lads how to win games. Mystery solved!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Does anyone else find it incredible that Pards doesn't do any offensive coaching? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 That's fucking desperate like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Even I find those quotes depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Why? We've got naturally talented attacking players, not so much with the defensive side. It's in Pards interests to make us hard to beat before making us an attacking threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Why? We've got naturally talented attacking players, not so much with the defensive side. It's in Pards interests to make us hard to beat before making us an attacking threat. All your posts are the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 never seen that before bit baffling tbh, although it explains why we're always trying to stop opposition playing rather than concentrating on getting at them ourselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It's in Pards interests to make us hard to beat before making us an attacking threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It's in Pards interests to make us hard to beat before making us an attacking threat. very true, but he accomplished that last season or are we having to start off every season afresh making sure we are hard to beat before focusing equally on being an attacking threat ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 never seen that before bit baffling tbh, although it explains why we're always trying to stop opposition playing rather than concentrating on getting at them ourselves It wouldn't be the worse tactic against Man City or Chelsea. Unfirtunately it falls apart when it comes to the dross teams who we now find difficult to beat...because we're too busy worrying about how they might beat us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It's in Pards interests to make us hard to beat before making us an attacking threat. very true, but he accomplished that last season or are we having to start off every season afresh making sure we are hard to beat before focusing equally on being an attacking threat ? I would imagine it would be dependent on whether the personnel has changed which is hasn't so maybe we should (or have, although it doesn't look like it) change the priorities. Not saying I agree with it, just that I can very much understand why he'd do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 KK rarely mentioned the other team. [/canofworms]. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It's in Pards interests to make us hard to beat before making us an attacking threat. very true, but he accomplished that last season or are we having to start off every season afresh making sure we are hard to beat before focusing equally on being an attacking threat ? I would imagine it would be dependent on whether the personnel has changed which is hasn't so maybe we should (or have, although it doesn't look like it) change the priorities. Not saying I agree with it, just that I can very much understand why he'd do it. i could understand it last season, i could just about understand it if we hadn't had that spell when he played the way many of us had been wanting for a large part of the season. i have no idea why he's reverted to it from the start this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Yeah last season fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It's in Pards interests to make us hard to beat before making us an attacking threat. very true, but he accomplished that last season or are we having to start off every season afresh making sure we are hard to beat before focusing equally on being an attacking threat ? I would imagine it would be dependent on whether the personnel has changed which is hasn't so maybe we should (or have, although it doesn't look like it) change the priorities. Not saying I agree with it, just that I can very much understand why he'd do it. i could understand it last season, i could just about understand it if we hadn't had that spell when he played the way many of us had been wanting for a large part of the season. i have no idea why he's reverted to it from the start this season. Me neither, unless those big defeats we suffered last season hit him hard as it's his side of the game? The way we don't collapse this season when going behind is something that has improved or maybe he just wants to get points on the board to preserve his job and he feels grinding out points is the best way of doing that. Who knows? Either way, if still true it certainly goes a long way to explaining why we're so rigid going forward and poor at set-pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 It's in Pards interests to make us hard to beat before making us an attacking threat. very true, but he accomplished that last season or are we having to start off every season afresh making sure we are hard to beat before focusing equally on being an attacking threat ? I would imagine it would be dependent on whether the personnel has changed which is hasn't so maybe we should (or have, although it doesn't look like it) change the priorities. Not saying I agree with it, just that I can very much understand why he'd do it. i could understand it last season, i could just about understand it if we hadn't had that spell when he played the way many of us had been wanting for a large part of the season. i have no idea why he's reverted to it from the start this season. Me neither, unless those big defeats we suffered last season hit him hard as it's his side of the game? The way we don't collapse this season when going behind is something that has improved or maybe he just wants to get points on the board to preserve his job and he feels grinding out points is the best way of doing that. Who knows? Either way, if still true it certainly goes a long way to explaining why we're so rigid going forward and poor at set-pieces. the big defeats were before we went more expansive apart from wigan and i doubt anyone expects him to,play that way in every game, unfortunatly he's been treating chelsea away the same as norwich at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 4 days worrying about West Ham and we didn't think about picking up Nolan, what's the point if basics are missed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 maybe he just wants to get points on the board to preserve his job and he feels grinding out points is the best way of doing that. That's what I think. There's probably some clauses in his contract about losing a certain percentage of games so he plays it safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Why? We've got naturally talented attacking players, not so much with the defensive side. It's in Pards interests to make us hard to beat before making us an attacking threat. He's already made us a difficult side to beat though IMO (something that he deserves a tremendous amount of credit for), do you not think he should be pushing on and trying to build on that? The next logical step seems to be to focus on our attacking play, which on the evidence if this season he either isn't doing at all or else he has no idea how to go about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Its an ongoing thing isnt it, you dont suddenly just become a hard side to beat. Its based on the preperation he puts in for each individual game. Which you'd imagine is halved now if he's doing the same for European games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Football didn't used to be this boringly complicated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Used to just have to score more than the other lot, innit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Its an ongoing thing isnt it, you dont suddenly just become a hard side to beat. Its based on the preperation he puts in for each individual game. Which you'd imagine is halved now if he's doing the same for European games. You would still think picking up Nolan would be high on his list of priorities. Even if he did only have half the time to work with the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 By the way, teams that keep the ball well, create plenty of chances and score goals tend to be difficult to beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Its an ongoing thing isnt it, you dont suddenly just become a hard side to beat. Its based on the preperation he puts in for each individual game. Which you'd imagine is halved now if he's doing the same for European games. You would still think picking up Nolan would be high on his list of priorities. Even if he did only have half the time to work with the players. He didnt have many chances did he. Hard to deal with a mishit shot going right to someones feet at that speed, especially with him jumping back onside at the last second. Was a bit of luck + clever play from him. We should've cleared it so the lad couldnt get the original shot in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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