Guest Dontooner Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Sack Pardew?? That boat sailed when Harry went to QPR, he was probably going to be closest to a step up. He fitted all the bills though, working for a controlling management and concentrating on the footballing side. Most importantly he let his flair players express themselves...which suited our current team. TBH i cant identify anyone out there after Harry and Rafa got reemployed in a short span of a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Martinez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Just a thought Did the poor form start when he returned to the dugout after his touchline ban? no it started when the season kicked off It started end of last season tbh On the very last day? Hardly represents form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Just a thought Did the poor form start when he returned to the dugout after his touchline ban? no it started when the season kicked off It started end of last season tbh On the very last day? Hardly represents form. We lost 3 of the last 4 including 4-0 against Wigan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Martinez. Please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Martinez. Please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I'd love Martinez like. Just the kind of football I wanna see us play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He's not f***ing sacked yet and he's not likely to be sacked in the near future. If the results don't pick up he will go. This! Only a question of time if we don't improve, obvious like. Agree - New Year most likely if we are struggling at Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 S Are you under 25, Mick? Not quite, I probably an a moron though because I've been putting myself through so much crap following football for more decades that a 25 year old has lived through. Snap - more than 2 more...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Are you under 25, Mick? Not quite, I probably an a moron though because I've been putting myself through so much crap following football for more decades that a 25 year old has lived through. i sense half the forum lifting their handbags and leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 i sense half the forum lifting their handbags and leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Snap - more than 2 more...! I didn't want to give too much away. I've just read my post again that you've quoted and I'm ashamed that my first language is English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 It's quite astonishing how many seemingly awful football managers are about. Where is the quality control? Not that Pardew is awful. I just mean generally. Average managers in the game, ex player bullshit. Nobs on Motd saying bruce was a top top manager and he would sort sunderland out. Old pals covering backs. In England it´s seems more important to have been an ex footballer than what you have done as a manager or coach. That´s the problem. Just because you have been a footballer doesn ´t make you a good coach. Jobs for old pals isn´t a problem just for English football managers though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 We'll never sack Pardew on the back of that contract. It'll take something extraordinary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Dont let tgat contract fool you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Excuse for losing at Stoke: ''They had an extra 24 hours to prepare'' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 The thing is, while we need to panic with the way we are playing, a win today still puts us top half and only few points behind the top 6 clubs. We need to get going, and fast. Last season we went on two magnificient runs, if we can gather one from now on until New Years we will be fine. We just won't though, will we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Seriously need a win today, too much downward momentum...i still expect Pardew to keep us about mid table come end of the season with the squad we got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/11/25/stats-show-newcastle-united-squad-is-being-pushed-to-limit-79310-32301547/ Stats show Newcastle United squad is being pushed to limit Nov 25 2012 by Neil Cameron, Sunday Sun ALAN PARDEW has the stats and facts to prove Newcastle United's squad is not strong enough to cope with domestic and European football. The Magpies manager admitted his players have struggled with the bi-weekly Thursday-Sunday schedule of matches that participation in the Europa League has thrown at them. Newcastle’s Premier League results after their six European matches, before last week’s 1-1 home draw with Maritimo, have not been great. They have won twice, drawn once, and lost three games. And using the GPS system, which measures players’ recovery and fitness, the Newcastle boss has the evidence that his small group of players, most of whom have never had this pressure before, are suffering from the playing demands. Pardew said: “It’s the intensity you need from the players to play on a Thursday night then again on the Sunday. “That information wasn’t really available to us until three or four years ago when GPS became the norm and we began getting feedback on players’ performance. You’ve only got to look at that to know there’s a dip. “Unfortunately there’s going to be a dip mentally as well. For Southampton it will be a lovely training day for a couple of days. We don’t have a chance to do that and the levels of my players will be a little bit lower, so it will be tough. “I have mixed feelings about the competition. The Europa League format makes it difficult for a Premier League team, there’s no doubt about that. Thursday to Sunday is too tough at this level. The Thursday night is probably the bigger problem. We recovered on Friday and will still be recovering on Saturday. “Then we’re straight into a game and there’s really no work I can do on the training ground for the Southampton game on Sunday. “I’m talking about the energy level we get on a Sunday after playing Thursday compared to a free week. We can measure exact distances players cover, the intensity they work at. It’s the high intensity work that’s the bigger deal rather than the mileage.” Pardew revealed the players were far from jubilant in the aftermath of qualifying for the last 32 of the Europa League, basically because they had nothing left to give. He said: “I thought it would be a good feeling in the changing room after qualifying, but it wasn’t. It was an angry feeling because of the last 20 minutes when we were disappointing. You have to get rid of that feeling and get into Sunday. “All these things are impacting on the team. It’s all different to us. It’s all new – and we’ve got to cope with it with 11 senior players. “Even Manchester City would struggle. “We will now put it to bed till February. The squad was very, very stretched last night, more than we’ve ever been since I’ve been manager. I hope in February we’re not stretched.” Much of Newcastle’s success last season was built upon the 4-3-3 formation, something that hasn’t been seen much of this time around. That is down to Pardew being unable to select what he believes is his strongest XI. He said: “Last year, I thought Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye and Demba Ba coped well with that formation, but we haven’t really had that team out there. “You need your central midfield players, your two centre-halves, and your goalkeeper and our strikers and we haven’t really had that team out this year. Twice I think, if that. “We switch between 4-3-3 and 4-4-2 in games but I think the formation thing is getting in the way of what we’ve got to do. That’s winning headers, running faster and showing a desire to win the game. “That’s what we need to take to Southampton.” Pardew could really do with a good performance and three points today from his old club because the domestic form has been poor. The Toon boss said: “Losing at home to West Ham put a big puncture in our season. “If we has won that game we’d have been in the top six. Then we had massive blows before Swansea with Papiss being withdrawn and Cabaye’s injury. “I’m not going to get too down about it at the minute. If we get to January and we’re in a vulnerable position – where we are now or lower – then we’re going to need to have a little bit more thought about how we’re going to go forward. “I still believe in this side. I still believe it’s a very good side when I put it out there. But the guys who are in and around the squad need to step up now and prove they’re good enough.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know he'll probably get ripped for making excuses but there's a lot makes sense in that article IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/11/25/stats-show-newcastle-united-squad-is-being-pushed-to-limit-79310-32301547/ Stats show Newcastle United squad is being pushed to limit Nov 25 2012 by Neil Cameron, Sunday Sun ALAN PARDEW has the stats and facts to prove Newcastle United's squad is not strong enough to cope with domestic and European football. The Magpies manager admitted his players have struggled with the bi-weekly Thursday-Sunday schedule of matches that participation in the Europa League has thrown at them. Newcastle’s Premier League results after their six European matches, before last week’s 1-1 home draw with Maritimo, have not been great. They have won twice, drawn once, and lost three games. And using the GPS system, which measures players’ recovery and fitness, the Newcastle boss has the evidence that his small group of players, most of whom have never had this pressure before, are suffering from the playing demands. Pardew said: “It’s the intensity you need from the players to play on a Thursday night then again on the Sunday. “That information wasn’t really available to us until three or four years ago when GPS became the norm and we began getting feedback on players’ performance. You’ve only got to look at that to know there’s a dip. “Unfortunately there’s going to be a dip mentally as well. For Southampton it will be a lovely training day for a couple of days. We don’t have a chance to do that and the levels of my players will be a little bit lower, so it will be tough. “I have mixed feelings about the competition. The Europa League format makes it difficult for a Premier League team, there’s no doubt about that. Thursday to Sunday is too tough at this level. The Thursday night is probably the bigger problem. We recovered on Friday and will still be recovering on Saturday. “Then we’re straight into a game and there’s really no work I can do on the training ground for the Southampton game on Sunday. “I’m talking about the energy level we get on a Sunday after playing Thursday compared to a free week. We can measure exact distances players cover, the intensity they work at. It’s the high intensity work that’s the bigger deal rather than the mileage.” Pardew revealed the players were far from jubilant in the aftermath of qualifying for the last 32 of the Europa League, basically because they had nothing left to give. He said: “I thought it would be a good feeling in the changing room after qualifying, but it wasn’t. It was an angry feeling because of the last 20 minutes when we were disappointing. You have to get rid of that feeling and get into Sunday. “All these things are impacting on the team. It’s all different to us. It’s all new – and we’ve got to cope with it with 11 senior players. “Even Manchester City would struggle. “We will now put it to bed till February. The squad was very, very stretched last night, more than we’ve ever been since I’ve been manager. I hope in February we’re not stretched.” Much of Newcastle’s success last season was built upon the 4-3-3 formation, something that hasn’t been seen much of this time around. That is down to Pardew being unable to select what he believes is his strongest XI. He said: “Last year, I thought Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye and Demba Ba coped well with that formation, but we haven’t really had that team out there. “You need your central midfield players, your two centre-halves, and your goalkeeper and our strikers and we haven’t really had that team out this year. Twice I think, if that. “We switch between 4-3-3 and 4-4-2 in games but I think the formation thing is getting in the way of what we’ve got to do. That’s winning headers, running faster and showing a desire to win the game. “That’s what we need to take to Southampton.” Pardew could really do with a good performance and three points today from his old club because the domestic form has been poor. The Toon boss said: “Losing at home to West Ham put a big puncture in our season. “If we has won that game we’d have been in the top six. Then we had massive blows before Swansea with Papiss being withdrawn and Cabaye’s injury. “I’m not going to get too down about it at the minute. If we get to January and we’re in a vulnerable position – where we are now or lower – then we’re going to need to have a little bit more thought about how we’re going to go forward. “I still believe in this side. I still believe it’s a very good side when I put it out there. But the guys who are in and around the squad need to step up now and prove they’re good enough.” I stopped reading after the first 5 or 6 lines, he's full of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Desperation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Worst time to get injuries though. Games thick and fast over winter + thinly stretched squad = worrying times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Too many excuses in there for me. A poor performance today and the type of result we're all expecting and the pressure will really be on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know he'll probably get ripped for making excuses but there's a lot makes sense in that article IMO. Pardew said: “It’s the intensity you need from the players to play on a Thursday night then again on the Sunday. Well, using virtually 2 different teams a week will prevent the above. Some people want to be fooled so they will be fooled. It’s much easier than facing the facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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