ponsaelius Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Just been tweeting that LeazesTerrace. Struggling to agree with what he's saying, that we need to be tighter defensively and more compact in midfield to stop shipping goals. I think we need another player in the middle since we're just about the only side in the league that plays 2 there but the last thing we need IMO is more focus on defensive shape, solidity more people protecting the back 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is being overrun in midfield, controlling games and creating chances for Ba and Cisse more than defending. How many saves did the Southampton GK make? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is that we don't attack. Cliche-arama but it really is the most important form of defence. If we can't keep the ball in the opposition's half, then it's going to be constant pressure at our end. Yesterday was the best example of it so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I think we just need Coloccini back tbh (and Taylor preferably). It's obviously not going to solve all of our problems but we were at least competitive in this league before he decided to stamp on Suarez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is everything really. Can't defend, can't attack, can't string two passes together. It's baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is that we don't attack. Cliche-arama but it really is the most important form of defence. If we can't keep the ball in the opposition's half, then it's going to be constant pressure at our end. Yesterday was the best example of it so far. Well keeping possession would help as well, we're not even doing the basics right at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is everything really. Can't defend, can't attack, can't string two passes together. It's baffling. I think we defend okay when the back five has got a bit of protection, instead of relentless pressure thanks to us not retaining possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is everything really. Can't defend, can't attack, can't string two passes together. It's baffling. Yeah, even the old keep it tight at the back from last season has deserted us. Last clean sheet in the league was 2 months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is that we don't attack. Cliche-arama but it really is the most important form of defence. If we can't keep the ball in the opposition's half, then it's going to be constant pressure at our end. Yesterday was the best example of it so far. You see all these managers wax lyrical about Alex Ferguson, but they seemingyl pay no real attention to what he actually does, or try to emulate him. This guy always plays two attacking full backs, two attacking widemen, has no defensive midfielder, regularly forces three strikers into his team, and still whips everyone. How about you try at least some of these ideas sometime? How about not being so gutless? How about not worrying about being tight defensively all the bloody time. Negative B.S. sick of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is everything really. Can't defend, can't attack, can't string two passes together. It's baffling. Yeah, even the old keep it tight at the back from last season has deserted us. Last clean sheet in the league was 2 months ago. All of last season, even at the team's very best, I never felt they were defensively sound or solid. We just seemed to manage to hang on most of the time imo. These clowns obsessed with being defensive all the time really annoy me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is that we don't attack. Cliche-arama but it really is the most important form of defence. If we can't keep the ball in the opposition's half, then it's going to be constant pressure at our end. Yesterday was the best example of it so far. You see all these managers wax lyrical about Alex Ferguson, but they seemingyl pay no real attention to what he actually does, or try to emulate him. This guy always plays two attacking full backs, two attacking widemen, has no defensive midfielder, regularly forces three strikers into his team, and still whips everyone. How about you try at least some of these ideas sometime? How about not being so gutless? How about not worrying about being tight defensively all the bloody time. Negative B.S. sick of it. To be fair, most other managers don't have the luxury of having the best players in the world in their squads. When you have limited players, it's easier to play limited football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is that we don't attack. Cliche-arama but it really is the most important form of defence. If we can't keep the ball in the opposition's half, then it's going to be constant pressure at our end. Yesterday was the best example of it so far. Kind of my point..... if we can't control football matches and being overrun in midfield how are we supposed to create chances to attack? It all stems from that, obviously more deep-rooted than all that but you get my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Our problem is that we don't attack. Cliche-arama but it really is the most important form of defence. If we can't keep the ball in the opposition's half, then it's going to be constant pressure at our end. Yesterday was the best example of it so far. You see all these managers wax lyrical about Alex Ferguson, but they seemingyl pay no real attention to what he actually does, or try to emulate him. This guy always plays two attacking full backs, two attacking widemen, has no defensive midfielder, regularly forces three strikers into his team, and still whips everyone. How about you try at least some of these ideas sometime? How about not being so gutless? How about not worrying about being tight defensively all the bloody time. Negative B.S. sick of it. To be fair, most other managers don't have the luxury of having the best players in the world in their squads. When you have limited players, it's easier to play limited football. We don't have to go all out like Man U, but for goodness sake, can we take the training wheels off against Southampton please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 It's quite clear we do no attacking training at all.. A lot of our players just hoof it because they don't know what to do once they get possession. For example we know Williamson has no footballing ability so why is there no midfielder offering to take the ball off him? We can't even do the basics of keeping the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Its our lack of attacking verve that is putting more pressure on our defenders imo. They are under more pressure to keep a clean sheet and inevitably they cant. Of course being more organised is a platform, but we look toothless in attack, testing an awful keeper just twice isn't good enough. If its possible more focus on defensive shape will make us even more inept. Its hardly like we're going gung ho and leaving the defenders exposed either. Getting lost in both Pardew threads here, had to move this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Its not just a lack of verve. Its a complete lack of movement, pattern of play, set penises from hell, unbelievable poor first touches, a pair of strikers who cant hold a ball up, tbf balls fired at them from a million miles away. Our problems going forward are massive and wont be solved quickly, really worried me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Nah we're just not running fast enough and winning headers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We've got players in our squad that teams we've been out played by would kill for. But the way we've got them perfoming you'd think we were from a couple of divisions down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We've got players in our squad that teams we've been out played by would kill for. But the way we've got them perfoming you'd think we were from a couple of divisions down! They won't have to kill for them before long. They'll all be begging to go and join them soone enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We've got players in our squad that teams we've been out played by would kill for. But the way we've got them perfoming you'd think we were from a couple of divisions down! I would take a few of the players from the teams we've lost to as well TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We've got players in our squad that teams we've been out played by would kill for. But the way we've got them perfoming you'd think we were from a couple of divisions down! They won't have to kill for them before long. They'll all be begging to go and join them soone enough. At which point MA demands twice what they are worth and we get stuck with players who don't want to be here, who you can be sure wont be trying very hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 you think with the little crisis we are falling in, Pardew is still going to persist in starting Ba and Cisse up top??? because it will take a crisis for him to realize. before the game at southampton , every fucking one of us knew that, if Cisse is fit he's going to be upfront with Ba and it won't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 He speaks of grinding out results but the two in CM and two strikers doesn't lend itself to that very well. We need to flood the midfield but he seems so reluctant to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We need to control the midfield you see, that's paramount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We need to stop worrying about what the fucking opposition are going to do and go out there to impose our own game on them. We've got the players to do it but our manager is a toilet. If you think like a bottom half team that's exactly what you'll become. Arseholes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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