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Just as an aside - do people think Ashley and Llambias are on board with Pardew's successful mission to throw the game today, or was Pardew trying to hide it?

 

He'll be getting a magnum of champagne from them, I don't doubt.

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I couldn't give a toss about his record against Poyet. :lol: I'm more worried about his record against the other Premier League teams. What dd Poyet do when he came up against Kenny Dalglish in the next round last year? Oh yeah: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17001835

 

:lol: You're the one crowing for us to appoint a very average Championship manager. "He's better than Pardew" ffs. Wow! What credentials!

 

So who would you recommend? A straight answer would be helpful.

 

 

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He's doing a good job Di Canio despite being a mentalist.

maybe i'm old-fashioned, but i'd stick with any pile of shite over getting a self-confessed fascist in, like

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he still here? ffs

 

talking about replacing him and the list of available managers di matteo is literally the only choice to the end of the season if you ask me...just proved he can galvanise a team to achieve something short-term

 

question is would he want to work for another arsehole and/or another short-term gig?

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Not convinced about that, pretty certain there would be plenty of foreign coaches that would take the job( our set up is very continental anyway)

 

The thing is would Ashley and his chronies have a clue who to target, but i'm pretty certain there would be plenty of coaches across Europe who would be interested especially French.

 

With how we are setup we don't need a manager anyway.

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not really sure they would have anticipated having a long-term managerial candidate requirement so soon, given their faith in pardew so if he went i'd expect another kinnear-esque short-term appointment to the end of the season

 

as stated, not sure you'd get much better than di matteo for that

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We all - at least, 90% of us according to the poll - know that Pardew isn't up to the job after having 2 years at a club and his record proves that.

 

We all also know that he suits Llambias and Ashley down to the ground and for that reason - and that reason alone - he won't be going anywhere unless we lose against Reading and Villa because Ashley will then start worrying about the financial implications of relegation.

 

I just wonder how much humiliation is going to be heaped on the fans' heads before a large percentage finally lose patience and either walk or start getting on Pardew's back as well as the board.

 

Make no mistake, the admission of defeat by selection of a poor side against a second-rate club who did the same to us in the same stage of the Cup last season is shameful for a club the size of Newcastle United and even with the team selected we should have been able to get a result at Brighton, let alone be comprehensively beaten once again.

 

You can understand a club like Wigan having to make do and mend in order to try to stay in the PL, but one that regularly gets 50,000 through the gates ? Come on....

 

Whether people accept it or not, we are a laughing stock of a club currently - rubbished by Ferguson, Ba leaving and also denigrating us by implication, crawling back to get Debuchy after messing it up in the summer for a mess of pottage and meekly accepting defeat to Brighton...not to mention conceding 13 goals in 3 PL games.....

 

It has now got to the stage where you start thinking 'where to after this'?.....

 

Up until 1981, we held the joint record for the most FA Cup wins in the history of the competition with 6....now, there is nothing so sure that we will be out before the 5th round - in the 80s, a joke started which was to the effect that a tea-bag was in the cup longer than NUFC...you can see why this started.

 

It is hard to see an end to the sort of humiliation that the fans of the club have suffered over the past season and all that is left is a relegation battle and a hope that we don't get drawn against a decent side in Europe but unless we lose the 2 crucial games in the PL which are coming up, Pardew will still be here in April because the clowns at the top know nobody else worth having will join them - De Canio wouldn't last 5 minutes working under either of them.

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We all - at least, 90% of us according to the poll - know that Pardew isn't up to the job after having 2 years at a club and his record proves that.

 

We all also know that he suits Llambias and Ashley down to the ground and for that reason - and that reason alone - he won't be going anywhere unless we lose against Reading and Villa because Ashley will then start worrying about the financial implications of relegation.

 

I just wonder how much humiliation is going to be heaped on the fans' heads before a large percentage finally lose patience and either walk or start getting on Pardew's back as well as the board.

 

Make no mistake, the admission of defeat by selection of a poor side against a second-rate club who did the same to us in the same stage of the Cup last season is shameful for a club the size of Newcastle United and even with the team selected we should have been able to get a result at Brighton, let alone be comprehensively beaten once again.

 

You can understand a club like Wigan having to make do and mend in order to try to stay in the PL, but one that regularly gets 50,000 through the gates ? Come on....

 

Whether people accept it or not, we are a laughing stock of a club currently - rubbished by Ferguson, Ba leaving and also denigrating us by implication, crawling back to get Debuchy after messing it up in the summer for a mess of pottage and meekly accepting defeat to Brighton...not to mention conceding 13 goals in 3 PL games.....

 

It has now got to the stage where you start thinking 'where to after this'?.....

 

Up until 1981, we held the joint record for the most FA Cup wins in the history of the competition with 6....now, there is nothing so sure that we will be out before the 5th round - in the 80s, a joke started which was to the effect that a tea-bag was in the cup longer than NUFC...you can see why this started.

 

It is hard to see an end to the sort of humiliation that the fans of the club have suffered over the past season and all that is left is a relegation battle and a hope that we don't get drawn against a decent side in Europe but unless we lose the 2 crucial games in the PL which are coming up, Pardew will still be here in April because the clowns at the top know nobody else worth having will join them - De Canio wouldn't last 5 minutes working under either of them.

 

:thup: :clap: ... Like I've should have said it myself...

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Laughing stock of a club? Give it a rest, the only reason we're anyone's laughing stock is because of some of the overreactions of our fans. Why the hell is it always sack the manager? Pardew almost got us a Champions League spot last year even if he did fail dismally in the cups.

 

We're in a pretty dismal run and we've played some crap this season but there's been a lot going on. He's been dreadfully handicapped by players who clearly aren't up to it (Williamson, Simpson) players who maybe haven't been playing for the team (Ba) and a player he's been trying to fit badly into a system (Cisse - who as a £10m man has to start, as did Ba, and they both failed in a 4-4-2 which left fans crying for a 4-3-3). We know the board hasn't backed him as we'd have liked, but why not point the finger of blame at some of the players for once rather than always the manager?

 

I'd love to get a manager in who wants to play good football the right way (O'Driscoll is available now) but if we're totally honest we just don't have the players capable of doing that. With Cabaye missing for large chunks Tiote has tried to expand his passing range with disastrous results, and with Williamson and Simpson playing it from the back it's no wonder we've played a direct style utilising Ba's presence and first touch to bring others into the game.

 

Let's get behind the team and put all this bloody doom and gloom behind us. I have absolute faith we have the quality (if we sign a bloody CB to replace Willo) and the manager to turn this season around.

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Laughing stock of a club? Give it a rest, the only reason we're anyone's laughing stock is because of some of the overreactions of our fans. Why the hell is it always sack the manager? Pardew almost got us a Champions League spot last year even if he did fail dismally in the cups.

 

We're in a pretty dismal run and we've played some crap this season but there's been a lot going on. He's been dreadfully handicapped by players who clearly aren't up to it (Williamson, Simpson) players who maybe haven't been playing for the team (Ba) and a player he's been trying to fit badly into a system (Cisse - who as a £10m man has to start, as did Ba, and they both failed in a 4-4-2 which left fans crying for a 4-3-3). We know the board hasn't backed him as we'd have liked, but why not point the finger of blame at some of the players for once rather than always the manager?

 

I'd love to get a manager in who wants to play good football the right way (O'Driscoll is available now) but if we're totally honest we just don't have the players capable of doing that. With Cabaye missing for large chunks Tiote has tried to expand his passing range with disastrous results, and with Williamson and Simpson playing it from the back it's no wonder we've played a direct style utilising Ba's presence and first touch to bring others into the game.

 

Let's get behind the team and put all this bloody doom and gloom behind us. I have absolute faith we have the quality (if we sign a bloody CB to replace Willo) and the manager to turn this season around.

 

Sorry like, but most of that is utter rubbish.

 

We don't have the players capable of playing good football the right way too? Really? When everyone's fit it's the most logical thing that team should be doing. 

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Laughing stock of a club? Give it a rest, the only reason we're anyone's laughing stock is because of some of the overreactions of our fans. Why the hell is it always sack the manager? Pardew almost got us a Champions League spot last year even if he did fail dismally in the cups.

 

We're in a pretty dismal run and we've played some crap this season but there's been a lot going on. He's been dreadfully handicapped by players who clearly aren't up to it (Williamson, Simpson) players who maybe haven't been playing for the team (Ba) and a player he's been trying to fit badly into a system (Cisse - who as a £10m man has to start, as did Ba, and they both failed in a 4-4-2 which left fans crying for a 4-3-3). We know the board hasn't backed him as we'd have liked, but why not point the finger of blame at some of the players for once rather than always the manager?

 

I'd love to get a manager in who wants to play good football the right way (O'Driscoll is available now) but if we're totally honest we just don't have the players capable of doing that. With Cabaye missing for large chunks Tiote has tried to expand his passing range with disastrous results, and with Williamson and Simpson playing it from the back it's no wonder we've played a direct style utilising Ba's presence and first touch to bring others into the game.

 

Let's get behind the team and put all this bloody doom and gloom behind us. I have absolute faith we have the quality (if we sign a bloody CB to replace Willo) and the manager to turn this season around.

 

You are living in dreamland mate - unbelievable head in sand...

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'why not point the finger of blame at some of the players for once'

 

I can't think of a player that hasn't been slated this season, most of them on a weekly basis.

 

True - and isn't it the managers job to get the players playing to their capacity ?

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'why not point the finger of blame at some of the players for once'

 

I can't think of a player that hasn't been slated this season, most of them on a weekly basis.

 

True - and isn't it the managers job to get the players playing to their capacity ?

 

Yep, whether they're first choice or not. Pardew's been here long enough now to have instilled some sort of basic principles about how he wants the game played; Rodgers and Lambert have been at their clubs far less time than this and you can already see what they're trying to do. With Pardew it's as though he doesn't trust the squad players to do as he claims he says, or maybe he simply isn't capable of coaching them effectively.

 

It's a major worry that his excuse is always about the injuries. Yes they're particularly bad right now, but earlier in the season we were playing shite too. There's hardly anything to show that the squad as a whole is progressing.

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PS: I say worry because I desperately want Pardew to turn it around. I don't believe he'll be sacked (until it's too late, like last time) and I don't trust the tossers above him to make a decent appointment. I honestly think there would be a good chance of Kinnear coming back.

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I don't want him to be sacked. If any body needs to be change at the club it is the chairman. Ashely needs to fire DL and get us a decent chairman. Who can run a football club not a casino manager who sees players something similar.

 

Pardew did wonders last year and he made some mistake this season. He will be judged next season this year we just have to play to survive and just do that. You just can't sack the current manager of the year!

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