Mick Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Whoever's responsible for the attacking play in training is very obviously a weak link, tbh. Carver's a Terry Mac type you'd think. We need an attacking coach, no doubt. Whoever it is should be asking for more than 1 day a week, not that they should have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 "They need to understand on Thursday that if we think we can go gung-ho against Benfica they'll just pick us off and we'll be chasing shadows. We need to be very intelligent on Thursday, play our way into the game and try and get a goal in that first half. If we can get a goal ahead with twenty minutes to go I think we can do it and that's the position we've got to try and get to. We've got to do that in the right way and we could have one of the greatest weeks in the club's current history if we can do that." Sorry if these have been mentioned. He loves that 70 minute mark. I think I know what he means. It's important to reach that 70 minute mark with something still left in the tank, rather than blown out. It's in the final quarter that most opportunities arise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Also does Fergie, Wenger, Jose, Benitez, Guardiola, Mancini, Moyes and every other manager for that matter have an attacking coach. Of course they dont. Because football isn't FM 2013, they sometimes have finishing, crossing etc coaches. Attacking coach is pie in the sky thinking. We want attacking football then we need a different manager, it really is that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Oh absolutely. I just meant that if Pardew is to stay we badly need someone to fill that massive void that exists, mainly due to his inability to set us up to attack teams. That's before we even go into the problem with set-pieces. Set piece coach, if only Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 The FM references are lost on me, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 The FM references are lost on me, like. You can have, attacking coaches, man management, defensive, youth potential coach etc....nonsense fluff stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Also does Fergie, Wenger, Jose, Benitez, Guardiola, Mancini, Moyes and every other manager for that matter have an attacking coach. Of course they dont. Because football isn't FM 2013, they sometimes have finishing, crossing etc coaches. Attacking coach is pie in the sky thinking. We want attacking football then we need a different manager, it really is that simple. I don't reckon getting in some magic attacking coach will fix everything either, you attack and defend as a team and to be as good we hope to be you have to be able to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Also does Fergie, Wenger, Jose, Benitez, Guardiola, Mancini, Moyes and every other manager for that matter have an attacking coach. Of course they dont. Because football isn't FM 2013, they sometimes have finishing, crossing etc coaches. Attacking coach is pie in the sky thinking. We want attacking football then we need a different manager, it really is that simple. I don't reckon getting in some magic attacking coach will fix everything either, you attack and defend as a team and to be as good we hope to be you have to be able to do that. The manager is the one who dicates our play, tactics and mindset. The other coaches fine tune and advise him if he ask them. That's how i see it. Pardew isn't an attacking coach, isn't a possession football coach. That makes him no good in my book if we want to see good football, i hope he turns it around in that respect, and maybe having an extra coach of some sort, may well help that. Seriously doubt it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Carver when once asked who done most of the coaching at Newcastle when he was number 2 to Sir bobby... "Bobby" I like Carver but he is more of a buffer than a coach. Apparently Stone does a lot if coaching at the club and of course so does the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 "They need to understand on Thursday that if we think we can go gung-ho against Benfica they'll just pick us off and we'll be chasing shadows. We need to be very intelligent on Thursday, play our way into the game and try and get a goal in that first half. If we can get a goal ahead with twenty minutes to go I think we can do it and that's the position we've got to try and get to. We've got to do that in the right way and we could have one of the greatest weeks in the club's current history if we can do that." Sorry if these have been mentioned. He loves that 70 minute mark. We’d like to score earlier in games, and we’ll be going all out for an early goal. The players are revolting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 MRS TWEEDY! MRS TWEEDY! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Carver when once asked who done most of the coaching at Newcastle when he was number 2 to Sir bobby... "Bobby" I like Carver but he is more of a buffer than a coach. Apparently Stone does a lot if coaching at the club and of course so does the manager. http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1463315.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/shearer%20shirt-1463315.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Benfica's defense was s***. They're there for the taking, and either they had a relatively bad day in front of goal despite the 3-1 scoreline, or they are actually lacking in terms of being clinical (we gifted them two very easy goals, whilst they wasted about a dozen half-chances or promising situations), which hopefully means they'll not be as big a threat on the counter. I think we can do this, as long as we go at them from the start. As for Pardew....meh. Limited manager who is having us play more like a lower league side in a televised FA Cup tie at home to a Premiership side than a slick, cohesive team littered with some very talented individuals. Even the type of "attacking" football is similar to what you'd see at the top ends of the lower leagues in terms of being very basic in the approach play, albeit with far better players [being wasted in the process]. In a way, Pardew is like the managerial equivalent of Kevin "can't sell him, 11 Premiership goals" Nolan - he has some good traits, has served us well for a specific period of time, but now the team has moved on and his deficiencies are holding us back. We'd really do well to go out and get an upgrade more suited to this squad - the equivalent of replacing Nolan with Cabaye, which in managerial terms would be getting someone in who is good at coaching, or overseeing the coaching of, the squad into passing, moving, and attacking better as a unit. Or if we don't get rid of Pardew, at the very least we need to bring someone in to genuinely help him and give him an earful when he decides to do something stupid (like last season when for no reason we switched away from a super successful 4-3-3). Maybe Pardew is just a Brian Clough who hasn't found his Peter Taylor yet? On that note, maybe it's John Carver who isn't doing his job well? the kevin nolan point is absolutely spot on imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Carver when once asked who done most of the coaching at Newcastle when he was number 2 to Sir bobby... "Bobby" I like Carver but he is more of a buffer than a coach. Apparently Stone does a lot if coaching at the club and of course so does the manager. http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1463315.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/shearer%20shirt-1463315.JPG http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1506/sheberg.jpg Jesse, look at me, you are a blow fish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Carver when once asked who done most of the coaching at Newcastle when he was number 2 to Sir bobby... "Bobby" I like Carver but he is more of a buffer than a coach. Apparently Stone does a lot if coaching at the club and of course so does the manager. http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1463315.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/shearer%20shirt-1463315.JPG http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1506/sheberg.jpg Jesse, look at me, you are a blow fish. Class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Revolution Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Whoever's responsible for the attacking play in training is very obviously a weak link, tbh. Carver's a Terry Mac type you'd think. We need an attacking coach, no doubt. Whoever it is should be asking for more than 1 day a week, not that they should have to. Yep, tough ask, even for a top (attacking) coach to leave a significant imprint, under that restrictive allocation of training time. Flawed philosophy right at the very top. Embedding movement & understanding between players (to the point where it's instinctive/2nd nature/telepathic) is an ever evolving process due to positional switch-ups, transfer market incomings & outgoings, and generally maintaining a well oiled/cohesive unit. It shouldn't deserving of that of a one-day afterthought, priority-wise, that is left in the dust behind maintaining defensive team shape ie. organised chasing-of-shadows, generally playing on the backfoot in your own half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Shearer as Walt. Brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 There's more than 1 way to skin a cat, if this one works then fair play but if not I'll be fucking raging. Negativity first, almost always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 http://i48.tinypic.com/v5lw2h.jpg I'll happily be mocked if we go through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Pardew At The Disco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Hope guarding against an early goal pays off. Not totally confident with the line up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Pardew At The Disco. 30 Seconds to Pards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Pardew At The Disco. 30 Seconds to Pards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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