Alan Pardew

[Hanshithispantz]

I don't understand some of our fans so keen on getting rid of him, they don't see the bigger picture. 

I could say the same thing in return, only my beliefs stem from me wanting the club to be the best it can be where as yours seem to come from a willingness for Pardew to be the man who makes that happen.

 

 

[Guest hobshobs]

Thursday night will answer a lot of questions relating to Pardew. There are no league points at stake, no need for him to even consider whether to go for a draw or not. We have to come out and go for the jugular, straight from the off. If we take the lead we need to keep going for a second. Plain and simple. The ground will be full and bouncing from the off, 100% behind the team. We all know Pardew can quickly muck up the fan factor with one of his non-sensical substitutions or farcical tactical tweaks. We don't need an Ameobi or an Obertan on the pitch. We need players with a decent touch, an ability to pass and move and a willingness to fight for the cause for 90 minutes. The fans know exactly what is needed, I know the players do, just a bit concerned that Pardew doesn't.

 

Just curious, say we play all the players you want as starting eleven, and we need to make substitutes for the last 30 mins, which player in your opinion can come out to do a job then?

 

No problem with any of the squad in terms of effort and commitment apart from Ameobi and Obertan as I already stated in my initial post.

[Benwell Lad]

Thursday night will answer a lot of questions relating to Pardew. There are no league points at stake, no need for him to even consider whether to go for a draw or not. We have to come out and go for the jugular, straight from the off. If we take the lead we need to keep going for a second. Plain and simple. The ground will be full and bouncing from the off, 100% behind the team. We all know Pardew can quickly muck up the fan factor with one of his non-sensical substitutions or farcical tactical tweaks. We don't need an Ameobi or an Obertan on the pitch. We need players with a decent touch, an ability to pass and move and a willingness to fight for the cause for 90 minutes. The fans know exactly what is needed, I know the players do, just a bit concerned that Pardew doesn't.

 

Agree, but the Damage is done for the Haters, they are not for turning.

 

If he does that on thursday no one in their right mind will be complaining.

 

 

 

Despite the different scores, Thursday night is not a lot different to the Anji game, i.e. if the opposition score we're probably fucked.

In fairness to Pardew he did very well that night when up against one of European football's grand masters.

[Hanshithispantz]

Don't get me wrong I would love Pardew to do well here from this point forward, in spite of the amount of shite he speaks when under pressure he's a very tolerable manager on the whole and his passion is fantastic (see yesterday).

[Flip]

Don't get me wrong I would love Pardew to do well here from this point forward, in spite of the amount of s**** he speaks when under pressure he's a very tolerable manager on the whole and his passion is fantastic (see yesterday).

 

 

Unfortunately he's not a good manager.

[Mick]

Thursday night will answer a lot of questions relating to Pardew. There are no league points at stake, no need for him to even consider whether to go for a draw or not. We have to come out and go for the jugular, straight from the off. If we take the lead we need to keep going for a second. Plain and simple. The ground will be full and bouncing from the off, 100% behind the team. We all know Pardew can quickly muck up the fan factor with one of his non-sensical substitutions or farcical tactical tweaks. We don't need an Ameobi or an Obertan on the pitch. We need players with a decent touch, an ability to pass and move and a willingness to fight for the cause for 90 minutes. The fans know exactly what is needed, I know the players do, just a bit concerned that Pardew doesn't.

 

Thursday will answer nothing, it's win or go out, he has no option other than to not even try.

[Hanshithispantz]

Thursday night will answer a lot of questions relating to Pardew. There are no league points at stake, no need for him to even consider whether to go for a draw or not. We have to come out and go for the jugular, straight from the off. If we take the lead we need to keep going for a second. Plain and simple. The ground will be full and bouncing from the off, 100% behind the team. We all know Pardew can quickly muck up the fan factor with one of his non-sensical substitutions or farcical tactical tweaks. We don't need an Ameobi or an Obertan on the pitch. We need players with a decent touch, an ability to pass and move and a willingness to fight for the cause for 90 minutes. The fans know exactly what is needed, I know the players do, just a bit concerned that Pardew doesn't.

 

Agree, but the Damage is done for the Haters, they are not for turning.

 

If he does that on thursday no one in their right mind will be complaining.

 

 

 

 

there will be complainers still

You're acting as if the "haters" haven't got a reason to hate though. I think it's perfectly reasonable to not be fully convinced by a man who has us in a relegation scrap

[Guest hobshobs]

Thursday night will answer a lot of questions relating to Pardew. There are no league points at stake, no need for him to even consider whether to go for a draw or not. We have to come out and go for the jugular, straight from the off. If we take the lead we need to keep going for a second. Plain and simple. The ground will be full and bouncing from the off, 100% behind the team. We all know Pardew can quickly muck up the fan factor with one of his non-sensical substitutions or farcical tactical tweaks. We don't need an Ameobi or an Obertan on the pitch. We need players with a decent touch, an ability to pass and move and a willingness to fight for the cause for 90 minutes. The fans know exactly what is needed, I know the players do, just a bit concerned that Pardew doesn't.

 

Thursday will answer nothing, it's win or go out, he has no option other than to not even try.

 

'Not even try' like at Manchester City and it will answer everything.

[Mick]

 

 

'Not even try' like at Manchester City and it will answer everything.

 

I doubt he'd do that, we've got too much potentially at stake, he'll try to get through, I'm sure of that.

 

Edit,

 

It looks like you might be onto something.

[Rich]

"They need to understand on Thursday that if we think we can go gung-ho against Benfica they'll just pick us off and we'll be chasing shadows. We need to be very intelligent on Thursday, play our way into the game and try and get a goal in that first half.

 

If we can get a goal ahead with twenty minutes to go I think we can do it and that's the position we've got to try and get to. We've got to do that in the right way and we could have one of the greatest weeks in the club's current history if we can do that."

 

Sorry if these have been mentioned. He loves that 70 minute mark.

[ponsaelius]

Sounds like we're going to come out shaking like a shitting dog.

[Skeletor]

Sounds like we're going to come out shaking like a shitting dog.

 

Indeed. 'Play our way into the game' sounds like we're handing them the early initiative.

[Yorkie]

Forgetting some of his (blatantly bullshit) comments in the media, personality-wise I see him as one of those people you'd hate if you were another club, but love him because he's ours - typified by yesterday, which isn't the first time he's gone bonkers on the touchline. As a bloke, I like him and it's probably one of the reasons why I've been more 'forgiveable'. That's not really the right word, I feel I've chastised him as much as any when he's deserved it.

 

My hunch is that he's not going to have us ever pushing for CL places again... a target I see as the limit for this team (+ some shrewd additions). But I've seen him do it and I'm still prepared to give him until about Christmas time to prove that he can take us forward.

[TheHoob]

"They need to understand on Thursday that if we think we can go gung-ho against Benfica they'll just pick us off and we'll be chasing shadows. We need to be very intelligent on Thursday, play our way into the game and try and get a goal in that first half.

 

If we can get a goal ahead with twenty minutes to go I think we can do it and that's the position we've got to try and get to. We've got to do that in the right way and we could have one of the greatest weeks in the club's current history if we can do that."

 

Sorry if these have been mentioned. He loves that 70 minute mark.

 

[midds]

Sounds like we're going to come out shaking like a shitting dog.

 

The only way we can pull it off is to score fairly early on, keep it tight and cagey and go for it late on with a late second so they can't respond. One daft mistake and we need 4 which isn't happening. If we score the 2 goals with 30 minutes to go then that leaves plenty of time for them to get their away goal to kill the tie.

 

In some respects his hands are tied on Thursday night. 

[dcmk]

I don't understand some of our fans so keen on getting rid of him, they don't see the bigger picture. 

I could say the same thing in return, only my beliefs stem from me wanting the club to be the best it can be where as yours seem to come from a willingness for Pardew to be the man who makes that happen.

 

 

 

If we could appoint the new Kevin Keegan/SBR - I would want the bloke gone ASAP.  It's more realistic to see the club next appoint someone like an unattached Curbishley.

 

 

[Guest hobshobs]

"They need to understand on Thursday that if we think we can go gung-ho against Benfica they'll just pick us off and we'll be chasing shadows. We need to be very intelligent on Thursday, play our way into the game and try and get a goal in that first half.

 

If we can get a goal ahead with twenty minutes to go I think we can do it and that's the position we've got to try and get to. We've got to do that in the right way and we could have one of the greatest weeks in the club's current history if we can do that."

 

Sorry if these have been mentioned. He loves that 70 minute mark.

 

 

He sure does, unfortunately he's only done it about half a dozen times in over a decade. Still, you never know.

[Yorkie]

"They need to understand on Thursday that if we think we can go gung-ho against Benfica they'll just pick us off and we'll be chasing shadows. We need to be very intelligent on Thursday, play our way into the game and try and get a goal in that first half.

 

If we can get a goal ahead with twenty minutes to go I think we can do it and that's the position we've got to try and get to. We've got to do that in the right way and we could have one of the greatest weeks in the club's current history if we can do that."

 

Sorry if these have been mentioned. He loves that 70 minute mark.

 

He's right. We need to take the shackles off a bit and take the game to them - but we're not far enough out of the tie to go a 100% gung-ho. We could make promising strides, be careless, then get picked off by their very efficient attackers.

 

Approach the game with the intention of attacking and we can do it, for sure. But it'd be pointless going at a million miles an hour for the whole first half, scoring, but then conceding a couple and killing the tie.

 

The 70 minutes thing I read as: "if we're in the lead by that point," not... "hopefully we can keep it at 0-0 till the 70th minute, then take it to them."

[Guest hobshobs]

Sounds like we're going to come out shaking like a shitting dog.

 

The only way we can pull it off is to score fairly early on, keep it tight and cagey and go for it late on with a late second so they can't respond. One daft mistake and we need 4 which isn't happening. If we score the 2 goals with 30 minutes to go then that leaves plenty of time for them to get their away goal to kill the tie.

 

In some respects his hands are tied on Thursday night. 

 

He managed four against Arsenal in 45 second half minutes?

[Skeletor]

We shouldn't go gung ho but I want to see us play at a high tempo and intensity for the first 10 minutes in an attempt to get the early goal we need and give us as much time as possible to get the all important second goal. Dare I say it...the way Liverpool would start a home European game.

[TheHoob]

FWIW I thought he had us set up very well for the game last week so i've got faith he can do it again. Imagine if its 6 home wins on the bounce come Sunday 

[Yorkie]

We shouldn't go gung ho but I want to see us play at a high tempo and intensity for the first 10 minutes in an attempt to get the early goal we need and give us as much time as possible to get the all important second goal. Dare I say it...the way Liverpool would start a home European game.

 

If we've kept it to a tight, cagey 0-0 at HT - I can see the usual suspects lamenting his typically negative philosophy. But, having reviewed my FUCK IT LETS JUST GO FOR IT mentality after the whistle on Thursday - I think we probably will need to play it slightly cautiously as Benfica have the players capable of exploiting a wide-open set-up.

[Skeletor]

FWIW I thought he had us set up very well for the game last week so i've got faith he can do it again. Imagine if its 6 home wins on the bounce come Sunday 

 

That kinda start would be ideal.

[Mick]

 

 

He's right. We need to take the shackles off a bit and take the game to them - but we're not far enough out of the tie to go a 100% gung-ho. We could make promising strides, be careless, then get picked off by their very efficient attackers.

 

Approach the game with the intention of attacking and we can do it, for sure. But it'd be pointless going at a million miles an hour for the whole first half, scoring, but then conceding a couple and killing the tie.

 

The 70 minutes thing I read as: "if we're in the lead by that point," not... "hopefully we can keep it at 0-0 till the 70th minute, then take it to them."

 

As it stands we need 2 goals to go through, if they score 1 we'll need 3.  We might as well go for as many as possible to make it difficult for them instead of going for an early goal and hoping that we can get another when we want, without them scoring.

 

If we press them back we're less likely to let them get anything and if we make a mistake in the opposition half we've got more of a chance to recover then we do in our own half.

[Yorkie]

I'd hope for something like:

 

0-10 minutes: Press high, pass the ball with clear attacking intent, high tempo, try and force as many chances as possible.

10-45 minutes (if still 0-0 after that): Keep it tight and hope to break them down.