Alan Pardew

[Wullie]

Incidentally while I was checking the Brighton quotes, saw one from him on .com after that game: "The (FA) Cup usually leads only to disappointment because, somewhere along the line, you get knocked out"

 

All season long he's been like the Grim fucking Reaper.

 

Reading or listening to it is like the bit in Father Ted when he hears Radiohead on the bus.

[Guest Slippery Sam]

Don't see why we can't challenge for the title if we have a good 2-3 year cycle. We just have to keep on leveraging our development. If we get into the top 4, improve our commercial deals then we can become a fixture in the top 5. Then it's just one season of luck with injuries and other small things and we won't be far from competing. Let's say 90 points wins the title. If you can win 17 games at home then you're only short roughly 35 points. That's about ten wins away from home, eminently possible. We once won 14 at home with SBR iirc. It's not impossible. It's not going to happen in the next two or three years but beyond that I wouldn't close the possibility.

 

I'll have a pint of what you've just had.

[colinmk]

 

And no Dortmund have  not spend much at all : http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/borussia-dortmund/transfers-alle/verein_16.html

 

Didn't realise it would be quite so stark, they've barely spent a penny (net).

 

Of course the issue in the Premier League isn't necessarily how good your team is but how deep your squad is. That's why it's critically important to have a good youth set-up and to have a manager who is adept at integrating those youngsters into the first team.

 

In many ways that is the most damning indictment of Pardew's management - his management of the young players has been absolutely abominable and him hoying them all into the frying pan against Brighton and against Bruges and them blaming them for performing like shite was fucking disgraceful. He bangs the drum on a regular basis about needing his strongest team to be able to perform at a level even approaching acceptable - quite apart from the fact that he can't even manage that when he pretty much does have that team, they are the words of a man admitting he is not up to Premier League management right there.

 

That shit with the youngsters had me seething. I actually thought he seemed like a decent man manager up to that point. More fool me.

[Beren]

Most reprehensible conduct yet.

[Wullie]

Bet he definitely wishes he hasn't finished fifth like. Not just the Europa League but raised expectations too, in a job where he knew he'd be safe coming in tenth.

 

He's hoping we've forgotten though. The "a few signings and we could break the top ten" patter is absolutely lifting.

[Guest Slippery Sam]

Bet he definitely wishes he hasn't finished fifth like. Not just the Europa League but raised expectations too, in a job where he knew he'd be safe coming in tenth.

 

He's hoping we've forgotten though. The "a few signings and we could break the top ten" patter is absolutely lifting.

 

You're probably right. He probably couldn't sleep at night in utter amazement at how well things were unexpectedly going for him.

 

I always thought his remit was to finish 10th, but Golfmag (who, after reading his posts for some time, I think is pretty close to the pin - pun intended - in respects of the truth at NUFC) reckons it's 8th, so I think Pardew is well below the asking this term.

 

I still can't see him going at the end of this season - unless we're relegated, which I hope upon hope doesn't happen - as Ashley and Dekka love the yes man they've got. They know that the shit they pull is nearly always having to excuse it in the media. I bet they're having group wanks when they see him on tv covering their nonsense.

[DJ_NUFC]

My only concern, as voiced by many others, is the question of whether we have the right people in-charge who can bring in a real manager. Probably even someone European, who can work with our continental squad. Not a clogger in the mould of Kinnear / Pards.

[Parky]

Bet he definitely wishes he hasn't finished fifth like. Not just the Europa League but raised expectations too, in a job where he knew he'd be safe coming in tenth.

 

He's hoping we've forgotten though. The "a few signings and we could break the top ten" patter is absolutely lifting.

 

You're probably right. He probably couldn't sleep at night in utter amazement at how well things were unexpectedly going for him.

 

I always thought his remit was to finish 10th, but Golfmag (who, after reading his posts for some time, I think is pretty close to the pin - pun intended - in respects of the truth at NUFC) reckons it's 8th, so I think Pardew is well below the asking this term.

 

I still can't see him going at the end of this season - unless we're relegated, which I hope upon hope doesn't happen - as Ashley and Dekka love the yes man they've got. They know that the shit they pull is nearly always having to excuse it in the media. I bet they're having group wanks when they see him on tv covering their nonsense.

 

They said 8th at the start of the season but Pards over egged it with Cl talk the prat.

[colinmk]

A big question for me is how much cash do we lose going from 8th to a potential 15th or so. We know that Ashley hates losing his pennies.

[Dave]

A big question for me is how much cash do we lose going from 8th to a potential 15th or so. We know that Ashley hates losing his pennies.

 

Over £5m.

[midds]

A big question for me is how much cash do we lose going from 8th to a potential 15th or so. We know that Ashley hates losing his pennies.

 

£800k a place last season in merit payment iirc, so we're looking at £5 or 6m.

 

To go on top of the £20m that was spent in January buying this fucking cretin half a team to ensure we stayed up.....which still isn't secure with just 4 games to go.

 

Stability costs money.

[Interpolic]

Also would imagine we've brought in less TV money domestically but made up for it with gate receipts/TV money for the Europa.

[Wullie]

Imagine if we hadn't signed them man, just imagine. We'd genuinely have been down weeks ago with a squad that finished 5th last time.

 

And some people still want him to stay.

[Dokko]

Imagine if we hadn't signed them man, just imagine. We'd genuinely have been down weeks ago with a squad that finished 5th last time.

 

And some people still want him to stay.

 

Was thinking about this before, we'd be on the same points as QPR & Reading.

[Beren]

A big question for me is how much cash do we lose going from 8th to a potential 15th or so. We know that Ashley hates losing his pennies.

 

Over £5m.

 

TV money will go up because of the new package, but maybe proportionally less for being less attractive to put on the box next season?

[Alberto2005]

Imagine if we hadn't signed them man, just imagine. We'd genuinely have been down weeks ago with a squad that finished 5th last time.

 

And some people still want him to stay.

 

Was thinking about this before, we'd be on the same points as QPR & Reading.

Ba was a big loss tbf. But yes.

[Sifu]

Imagine if we hadn't signed them man, just imagine. We'd genuinely have been down weeks ago with a squad that finished 5th last time.

 

And some people still want him to stay.

 

I think drastic action would have been taken (that is, Pardew being removed) if it ever escalated to such a low level, ie. being in the relegation zone for more than a couple of weeks in say, February/March.

[Dave]

Also would imagine we've brought in less TV money domestically but made up for it with gate receipts/TV money for the Europa.

 

We're on course to be on TV 15 times in the Premier League, as opposed to 18 times last year. That's about £1.5m less brass.

[midds]

Imagine if we hadn't signed them man, just imagine. We'd genuinely have been down weeks ago with a squad that finished 5th last time.

 

And some people still want him to stay.

 

Currently having an ongoing discussion with a bloke at work about this. He reckons all of his mates are all coming round to my way of thinking and all want him out after previously being behind him. He can't understand it and his only defence of Pardew seems to consist of "well the next bloke they hire may be worse". That's it. His only remaining reason for not pulling the trigger is that the replacement may be worse.

 

Mentally ill tbh.

[AlanSkÃrare]

Another thought on Ashley's reasoning here.

 

Players are signed on very long contracts to protect them as assets. But when the assets are now decreasing in value - surely he must be concerned?

 

I thought this was a good and summarizing piece on all that has gone on this year. Also raises some questions. Did someone on here write it?

 

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/newcastleunited/id/818?cc=5739

[Interpolic]

Imagine if we hadn't signed them man, just imagine. We'd genuinely have been down weeks ago with a squad that finished 5th last time.

 

And some people still want him to stay.

 

Currently having an ongoing discussion with a bloke at work about this. He reckons all of his mates are all coming round to my way of thinking and all want him out after previously being behind him. He can't understand it and his only defence of Pardew seems to consist of "well the next bloke they hire may be worse". That's it. His only remaining reason for not pulling the trigger is that the replacement may be worse.

 

Mentally ill tbh.

 

Most of my mates on Facebook seem to want to keep him like, not sure why.  London-based ones don't though.  Not sure what the craic is here.

[midds]

Also would imagine we've brought in less TV money domestically but made up for it with gate receipts/TV money for the Europa.

 

We're on course to be on TV 15 times in the Premier League, as opposed to 18 times last year. That's about £1.5m less brass.

 

And Ashley is due to take out another £18m on his loan this year too isn't he? Or is it £11m? One or the other either way.

 

Stability fucking rules.

[Wullie]

Imagine if we hadn't signed them man, just imagine. We'd genuinely have been down weeks ago with a squad that finished 5th last time.

 

And some people still want him to stay.

 

Was thinking about this before, we'd be on the same points as QPR & Reading.

Ba was a big loss tbf. But yes.

 

He was but it's hardly like we'd been any better off this season when he was here. When he was sold we were at the back end of the worst run of form in about 40 years!

[lovejoy]

Imagine if we hadn't signed them man, just imagine. We'd genuinely have been down weeks ago with a squad that finished 5th last time.

 

And some people still want him to stay.

 

Currently having an ongoing discussion with a bloke at work about this. He reckons all of his mates are all coming round to my way of thinking and all want him out after previously being behind him. He can't understand it and his only defence of Pardew seems to consist of "well the next bloke they hire may be worse". That's it. His only remaining reason for not pulling the trigger is that the replacement may be worse.

 

Mentally ill tbh.

 

I have debates with a lad I know, season ticket holder, home and away, never misses. He's a Pardew fan and his usual reasoning for shooting me down is 'stability', which is crazy.

 

However, his latest point was 'like fuck is this as bad as teh relegation season, we've been far worse off than this', as if that is a reason to keep a manager? wtf is wrong with these people?

[colinmk]

None of it bodes well for Pards I'd say, his saving grace is probably his relatively low wages, the cost of geting a new guy in and the length of his tongue.