Rich Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 From a defensive point of view Tioté is an impressive player, making 5 out of 5 tackles and also making 9 interceptions, 7 more than any other player. Suppose this fits in here now. Was taken from a Swansea fan's chalkboard analysis. Thought it was interesting and showed his value to the team very nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 How did we finish 5th last season without coming from behind to win, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 By getting the first goal in a lot of tight matches, then playing on the break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 We scored first a lot Think they said on MOTD that it's been ages since we lost a game from a winning position. Can't remember exactly when it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Cisse scored most of his goals in the opening 20 minutes from what I can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 You're glad there is 26 games to turn it around after reading statistics like these Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 We scored first a lot Think they said on MOTD that it's been ages since we lost a game from a winning position. Can't remember exactly when it was. Arsenal away last season. Simpson throw-in-gate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 At least that graph shows there's plenty of time to catch up. We're heading into a five-game lull for both of the previous seasons. If we're going to catch up we really need to win the next 2/3 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Nicked off Happy Face on Toontastic: http://i47.tinypic.com/1zdneqr.jpg Comfortably more long balls than any other team in the league. That table doesn't look so bad when you see that Fulham and Everton (who both play good stuff) are 2nd and 3rd but when you look at long balls as a percentage of total passes, it looks worse because they play vastly more short passes than we do: Newcastle United 24.5% Reading 24.5% Stoke 23.1% West Ham 21.3% Aston Villa 20.6% Norwich 20.5% Sunderland 19.2% West Bromwich Albion 19.0% Everton 17.9% Tottenham 17.9% Queens Park Rangers 17.0% Fulham 16.1% Wigan 15.5% Chelsea 13.4% Swansea 12.8% Liverpool 12.7% Southampton 12.7% Manchester United 11.6% Manchester City 10.5% Arsenal 9.7% Essentially, 1 in 4 of our passes is a long ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I'd like to see the successful long ball attempts percentage. It has to be shockingly bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I'd love to see Pardew confronted with these statistics. It really is beyond a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 In the 13 games in which Cisse and Ba have played together for the majority of the match in a 4-4-2, we have acquired 13 points, scored 12 goals and conceded 23. (I think) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I'd love to see Pardew confronted with these statistics. It really is beyond a joke. Is Dekka taking questions in the Chronicle anytime soon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I'd love to see Pardew confronted with these statistics. It really is beyond a joke. Is Dekka taking questions in the Chronicle anytime soon? On a related note, I bet he wouldn't do a phone in on radio during this difficult period. He was all too happy to do it when everything was going right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Cheers for nicking and posting that Wullie. Fucking underlines how shit our football philosophy is. Hoof-tastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 whoscored.com is OK, if you ignore the silly strength and weaknesses they give teams and players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Depressing statistic. Wonder if Pardew knows about it since he loves his stats apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 whoscored.com is OK, if you ignore the silly strength and weaknesses they give teams and players. And their player ratings. Willo top performer: R Name Pos Age cm kg Apps Goal A Yel Red SpG PS% AW MoM Rt 1 Michael Williamson D© 29 191 84 8 - - 2 - 0.5 79.6 6.8 1 7.41 2 Hatem Ben Arfa AM(CLR) 25 177 69 12 2 2 1 - 2.5 80 0.4 1 7.27 3 Yohan Cabaye DM© 26 175 71 10 2 1 3 - 2.1 80.4 0.2 - 7.23 4 Demba Ba AM(L),FW 27 189 84 11(1) 8 - - - 4.2 77.7 2.3 1 7.03 5 Steve Harper GK 37 185 83 4 - - - - - 43.1 0.3 - 6.98 6 Davide Santon D(LR) 21 187 77 12 - - 2 - 0.3 85.7 0.4 - 6.98 7 Jonás Gutiérrez DM©,M(L) 29 183 73 11 - - 4 - 0.5 85.8 0.5 - 6.9 8 Tim Krul GK 24 188 74 8 - - - - - 50 - - 6.83 9 Cheik Tioté M© 26 175 76 5(1) - 1 2 1 0.7 81.3 2 1 6.78 10 James Tavernier D 21 182 75 0(1) - - - - - 72.2 4 - 6.64 11 Sammy Ameobi FW 20 190 66 1(2) - 1 - - 2 75.5 1 - 6.64 12 Fabricio Coloccini D© 30 183 63 5 - - 1 1 0.2 88.6 1.4 - 6.64 13 Danny Simpson D® 25 178 74 7(1) - - 1 - 0.1 84.9 0.6 - 6.56 14 Steven Taylor D© 26 188 81 9(1) - - - - 0.5 90.8 2.6 - 6.55 15 James Perch D(CR),DM© 27 180 72 7(2) - - 4 - 0.1 88.8 1.4 - 6.54 16 Ryan Taylor D(L),M® 28 173 75 0(1) - - - - - 87.5 - - 6.51 17 Shane Ferguson D 21 178 73 3(2) - 1 - - 0.2 92.8 - - 6.36 18 Gael Bigirimana M 19 173 68 1(4) - - 1 - 0.2 81.1 1 - 6.36 19 Shola Ameobi FW 31 191 76 2(6) - 1 2 - 1.1 72.7 1.9 - 6.35 20 Vurnon Anita D(L),DM© 23 168 63 6(3) - - 1 - 0.3 82.9 - - 6.34 21 Sylvain Marveaux AM(L) 26 172 66 1(3) - - - - 0.8 88.6 0.3 - 6.23 22 Papiss Demba Cissé FW 27 183 73 9(1) 1 - - - 2 72.4 1.1 - 6.21 23 Gabriel Obertan AM(LR) 23 186 79 0(6) - - - - 0.2 75.6 - - 6.17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Downfall of statistics, really. On their own they could mean anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 No statistics are needed to prove us that we are complete shite this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Are comparative long ball stats available for the 2011/12 season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Are comparative long ball stats available for the 2011/12 season? Yeah we're top. EDIT: oh no we're not actually but we did average 67 per game, which would have had us top this year again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Ben Arfa the most successful dribbler of the ball in top flight European leagues at the moment (according to whoscored) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Long ball pass stats from the Swansea game - Krul 20, Williamson 12, Tiote 8, Ben Arfa 7 while the most by a Swansea player was 9 (GK) then 6 from De Guzman. From West Ham - Krul 20 again, Cabaye 15, Simpson 9, 7 each from Taylor and Santon while West Ham's most was the GK again with 19 and the next after that was Noble with only 8 then McCartney with 5. We played vastly more than they did. Cabaye is, by a fair margin, the player who plays the most on average per game other than Krul (who also seems to go long far more than the opposition keeper). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Long ball pass stats from the Swansea game - Krul 20, Williamson 12, Tiote 8, Ben Arfa 7 while the most by a Swansea player was 9 (GK) then 6 from De Guzman. From West Ham - Krul 20 again, Cabaye 15, Simpson 9, 7 each from Taylor and Santon while West Ham's most was the GK again with 19 and the next after that was Noble with only 8 then McCartney with 5. We played vastly more than they did. I think most agreed we played more long ball than west ham and they looked the better team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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