Jack Flash Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Cabaye is, by a fair margin, the player who plays the most on average per game other than Krul http://www.andyhanselman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Hands-over-ears-3.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 What constitutes a long pass, anything not played on the deck? There are good passes and bad passes. Meaningful passes and pointless passes. How far the ball travels is probably the least important attribute of any pass. Anyone with eyes can see we play a lot of percentage punts, don't need stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 It'll be any pass over a specified distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Shameful really. There have been games where we've mixed it up more, but under pressure certain players just launch it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Shameful really. There have been games where we've mixed it up more, but under pressure certain players just launch it. Teams have caught onto that imo by the way they press us this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Shameful really. There have been games where we've mixed it up more, but under pressure certain players just launch it. Teams have caught onto that imo by the way they press us this season. I think so too. After last year, they've all been watching the tapes and so on.. I know they're playing on instruction, but it's not even done with any discipline or care most of the time. There seems to be a fear of the midfield moving up and increasing the posession phase by one or two rotations and letting players interchange or find space. I realise there are times when a long ball is dangerous but we don't really play it like that. It's more into general areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 The main problem with us playing long ball, is that we are rubbish at it. No target man and no players buzzing around to pick up the pieces. Coupled with the number of times that opposition strikers pick up the second ball against us, the question needs to be asked if all of our players play within a 10 yard radius of the centre circle? Also an interesting bit in F365 today - we've not scored from a set piece this season, only had 4 shots from within the 6 yard box and have only socred onece from our last 270 corners! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Man United have scored from eight set pieces this season, and they're not a tall team. Our coaching in that area must be atrocious, I think we're the only team not to have scored from one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Long ball is a result of our shite defenders taking the easy way out, and a midfield that's not mobile enough to provide them with options. Problem is, the only way to beat a team that's pressing you is to keep the ball off them as long as you can. If you don't keep the ball, they don't tire and they can press you again next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 How does that explain Cabaye being the main culprit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Man United have scored from eight set pieces this season, and they're not a tall team. Our coaching in that area must be atrocious, I think we're the only team not to have scored from one. When i watch them they seem to attack the ball really well in comparison our players seem frightened of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Anyone see the Stoke corner, quality set play. Makes our lump it in approach look seriously amateur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Also an interesting bit in F365 today - we've not scored from a set piece this season, only had 4 shots from within the 6 yard box and have only socred onece from our last 270 corners! Wonder how many of those corners have hit the first defender as well. Isn't it an average of around 1 goal per 90 corners for an average team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Also an interesting bit in F365 today - we've not scored from a set piece this season, only had 4 shots from within the 6 yard box and have only socred onece from our last 270 corners! Wonder how many of those corners have hit the first defender as well. Isn't it an average of around 1 goal per 90 corners for an average team? Posted a bit of research the other day. Can't remember the exact stats, but the conclusion was that corners were almost no goal threat at all. Also, they intuitively seem like they're really dangerous, so the disappointment of not scoring is even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Also an interesting bit in F365 today - we've not scored from a set piece this season, only had 4 shots from within the 6 yard box and have only socred onece from our last 270 corners! Wonder how many of those corners have hit the first defender as well. Isn't it an average of around 1 goal per 90 corners for an average team? Posted a bit of research the other day. Can't remember the exact stats, but the conclusion was that corners were almost no goal threat at all. Also, they intuitively seem like they're really dangerous, so the disappointment of not scoring is even worse. Would that of included goals that come from second and third phases of play after a corner, I don't think we're even using them effectively as a means to build pressure on the opposition these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Also an interesting bit in F365 today - we've not scored from a set piece this season, only had 4 shots from within the 6 yard box and have only socred onece from our last 270 corners! Wonder how many of those corners have hit the first defender as well. Isn't it an average of around 1 goal per 90 corners for an average team? Posted a bit of research the other day. Can't remember the exact stats, but the conclusion was that corners were almost no goal threat at all. Also, they intuitively seem like they're really dangerous, so the disappointment of not scoring is even worse. Yet we conceded 2 goals in 15 mins against Man Utd from corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wgq0l looks exciting) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Updated after last week and this week's results. We've actually extended the gap over Everton by 2 points due to them dropping 3 points last week to Fulham and only holding their point against Norwich, and us dropping our draw against Swansea. Lose tomorrow though and "the pack" are within reach. (Reading = Bolton, Southampton = Blackburn, West Ham = Wolves) Manchester City.........................+64.........91 (+2) Manchester United.....................+47.........87 (-2) Chelsea......................................+29.........74 (+10) Tottenham Hotspur....................+21..........66 (-3) Arsenal.......................................+23.........63 (-7) Newcastle United.......................-1...........58 (-7) Everton.......................................+7.........53 (-3) Swansea.....................................+4............52 (+5) Fulham........................................+3............52 (0) West Bromwich Albion.................-2.............51 (+4) Stoke...........................................-10..........48 (+3) Norwich City................................-17..........48 (+1) Sunderland...................................+1............47 (+2) Liverpool.....................................-2...........46 (-6) Aston Villa....................................-19..........38 (0) Wigan..........................................-22..........38 (-5) Reading.......................................-29...........36 (0) Queens Park Rangers..................-31..........30 (-7) West Ham....................................-37..........30 (+5) Southampton...............................-27..........29 (-2) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Busy later, may as well post this now: 23rd October 2010 - last time we came from behind to win in the PL (under Hughton) 764 days 1st October 2011 - last time we scored from a corner in the PL 421 days 21 April 2012 - last time Beren was impressed with Newcastle for 90 minutes in the PL 221 days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/H8PsF.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 :lol: Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 10 points down on last season, with 6 points to defend in our next two games. (Reading = Bolton, Southampton = Blackburn, West Ham = Wolves) Manchester City.........................+65.........91 (+3) Manchester United.....................+47.........87 (-2) Chelsea......................................+28.........72 (+8) Tottenham Hotspur....................+23..........68 (-1) Arsenal.......................................+23.........63 (-7) Newcastle United.......................-5...........55 (-10) Everton.......................................+7.........53 (-3) Fulham........................................+3............52 (0) West Bromwich Albion.................-2.............51 (+4) Swansea.....................................+3............50 (+3) Stoke...........................................-10..........48 (+3) Norwich City................................-17..........48 (+1) Sunderland...................................+1............47 (+2) Liverpool.....................................-1...........47 (-6) Aston Villa....................................-19..........38 (0) Wigan..........................................-22..........38 (-5) Reading.......................................-29...........36 (0) Southampton...............................-23..........32 (+1) Queens Park Rangers..................-31..........30 (-7) West Ham....................................-39..........29 (+4) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 6th. This is the table Pards looks at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Its funny that Everton are -3, puts in to perspective their start this year (though i think they are a great side this year)...also had no idea that Norwich were as good as last year let alone a point better off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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