Dyeyzzon Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Tastes very sweet indeed. Even sweeter in my part of the world as I woke up to the sight of Bigi's goal. Just what I needed to get through the last buttpain week before Christmas holiday break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Just arrived back in Belfast, thank fuck we won.. It wasn't perfect but it was 1000 times better than the last four games! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Wigan gave us a tremendous amount of space and aften a lot of time on the ball. Was glad of that because it allowed us to realx a bit and players like Anita and Marveaux to get some confidence. Hopefully that will carry through into Fulham where, i'm sure, it will be much tighter for them (if they play). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I just hope we put in similar level of performance v Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Ronnie Stam was great for them I thought, was putting himself about right until the end and was causing us loads of problems even with 10 men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 The first half proves tactics and formations aren't as important as some claim when you just keep it simple and short. That's not a tactic then? You might have something to say if we'd stayed 4-4-2 in the last two games and seen an improvement. As it is we've gone 4-3-3 and seen an emphasis on passing and moving because its more achievable in that formation with these players. We didn't play 4-3-3. We obviously didn't as there was no 3rd striker, a key element in the last "3" mentioned. Keep following me around and quoting me though. Makes me feel cool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Fucking hell man, seriously. Let it go, we definitely, without question lined up in a 433. I don't how you can't see that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Might have been mentioned but just seen this on Twitter: Lee Ryder @lee_ryder One of the great atmospheres at St James' Park this. So far so good. #nufc have been "at it"as they say in the first 26 minutes. I must have been at a different game. Not sure it was "one of the greatest" but on the TV it sounded like the crowd were well up for it the first 25 minutes or so. Really loud and behind the team, not groaning at misplaced passes, and like I said earlier in the thread, they won us that penalty tonight. Right from the off I thought the backing for the team was excellent. Seemed like the crowd were proving a point after the recent barren run. The Wigan turnout has to be the lowest away support since SJP was redeveloped excluding European games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Poz Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Aye but every single Wigan fan in the world was there so that's really very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 f***ing hell man, seriously. Let it go, we definitely, without question lined up in a 433. I don't how you can't see that. No we didn't. Jonas wasn't a forward in even the loosest using of the word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 How good does it feel to wake up and remember we actually won the game This. Fully expected to be in a right grump at work this morning, but instead I'm quite cheery despite realising I'm on post duty. Did i pass you walking down Barrack Road with a young un about 7.40 last night? Hood up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Match/Report/0,,10278~2999440,00.html 4-2-3-1, which is what I'd have said. At no point was there a 3 upfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Jack Flash, were you there? Did you see a cluster of Anita, Marveaux and Tiote/Bigirimana in the middle with Jonas/Sammy on the left, Cisse on the right and Ba in the middle? Everyone else did. That's 433. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 For someone who doesn't like people posting about formations because it's boring JF spends a hell of a lot of time posting about formations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Jack Flash, were you there? Did you see a cluster of Anita, Marveaux and Tiote/Bigirimana in the middle with Jonas/Sammy on the left, Cisse on the right and Ba in the middle? Everyone else did. That's 433. I saw 4-2-3-1, from my seat in SJP. A 4-3-3 needs 3 attackers, unless Santon counts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Match/Report/0,,10278~2999440,00.html 4-2-3-1, which is what I'd have said. At no point was there a 3 upfront. Not that it really matters, but the midfield 3 was clearly a 1-2, not a 2-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Ahhhhh, okay. Fair enough, I thought you were trying to say it was 442. Soz mate. 4231 is a variation on 433. Semantics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 The first half proves tactics and formations aren't as important as some claim when you just keep it simple and short. That's not a tactic then? You might have something to say if we'd stayed 4-4-2 in the last two games and seen an improvement. As it is we've gone 4-3-3 and seen an emphasis on passing and moving because its more achievable in that formation with these players. We didn't play 4-3-3. We obviously didn't as there was no 3rd striker, a key element in the last "3" mentioned. Keep following me around and quoting me though. Makes me feel cool Ok, we didn't play 4-3-3, it changes absolutely nothing. Keeping it simple and short is still a tactic, and playing a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 or any of its variants encourages that tactic with these players. Show a bit of humility man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 For someone who doesn't like people posting about formations because it's boring JF spends a hell of a lot of time posting about formations. All work and no play makes Jack Flash a 4-2-3-1. I've said yesterday keeping it on the floor and not in the air is the biggest change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 The first half proves tactics and formations aren't as important as some claim when you just keep it simple and short. That's not a tactic then? You might have something to say if we'd stayed 4-4-2 in the last two games and seen an improvement. As it is we've gone 4-3-3 and seen an emphasis on passing and moving because its more achievable in that formation with these players. We didn't play 4-3-3. We obviously didn't as there was no 3rd striker, a key element in the last "3" mentioned. Keep following me around and quoting me though. Makes me feel cool Ok, we didn't play 4-3-3, it changes absolutely nothing. Keeping it simple and short is still a tactic, and playing a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 or any of its variants encourages that tactic with these players. Show a bit of humility man. Still think Ba should be on the wing? Humility, innit. It's getting childish now. There was no 3rd striker which means there couldn't have been a 4-3-3. Ba in the middle, Cisse favouring the right (as he has done for ages) and... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 And others were saying that a 4-3-3 or a variation encourages keeping it on the floor, passing and moving and moving up the pitch as a team. You arrogantly dismissed that theory and talked about 'magical' football and 'automatically' improving the football just through placing players on a bit of paper in a certain shape. THEN you tried to say that the fact that we managed to actually pass and move a bit last night (in a 4-2-3-1) proves that it's not about tactics, it's ridiculous. You've had your pants completely pulled down, give it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 The first half proves tactics and formations aren't as important as some claim when you just keep it simple and short. That's not a tactic then? You might have something to say if we'd stayed 4-4-2 in the last two games and seen an improvement. As it is we've gone 4-3-3 and seen an emphasis on passing and moving because its more achievable in that formation with these players. We didn't play 4-3-3. We obviously didn't as there was no 3rd striker, a key element in the last "3" mentioned. Keep following me around and quoting me though. Makes me feel cool Ok, we didn't play 4-3-3, it changes absolutely nothing. Keeping it simple and short is still a tactic, and playing a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 or any of its variants encourages that tactic with these players. Show a bit of humility man. Still think Ba should be on the wing? Humility, innit. It's getting childish now. There was no 3rd striker which means there couldn't have been a 4-3-3. Ba in the middle, Cisse favouring the right (as he has done for ages) and... I think Ba should be part of a fluid front three, interchanging much as he did last night with Cisse, exactly as I've been saying. Don't try and play the childish card again man, grown ups admit when they might have gotten something wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 It's a fucking play with numbers. 4-2-3-1/4-3-3/4-5-1 is bascially the same. The main thing yesterday, and in every other game we've played well over the past 10 months, we had three central midfielders. What I liked about yesterday was how Anita linked defence to midfield and Marveaux linked midfield to attack. That's what we've been missing in every game this season. I hope Pardew took notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 For someone who doesn't like people posting about formations because it's boring JF spends a hell of a lot of time posting about formations. All work and no play makes Jack Flash a 4-2-3-1. I've said yesterday keeping it on the floor and not in the air is the biggest change. And that was accomplished how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 i'm off to read some match reports....it's been a while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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