Ikon Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 At least he scored. And most said yes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 He's twice the striker Gouffran will ever be, and so much more clinical. I think the idea in playing him as the front man, was to finish our few chances on the break. That they never materialised isn't his fault. But, I understood the selection. Thing is Remy is so much more effective than Gouffran as a wide player.... he can take people on and commit defenders while creating chances. Gouffran is ineffective out wide really while Remy isn't and there's nothing wrong with a bit of movement with them swapping positions either as a lot of Remy's chances seem to come from drifting inside from the LW position where he doesn't get picked up. I can see where you are coming from and why Pard's did it but our entire front 3 was out of position in the first half which caused them to not have a clue what was going on. Better balance in the 2nd half and hopefully lessons are learned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 'Arry does not want Remy (and Taarabt) to go back according to the papers today. Good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 He's twice the striker Gouffran will ever be, and so much more clinical. I think the idea in playing him as the front man, was to finish our few chances on the break. That they never materialised isn't his fault. But, I understood the selection. Thing is Remy is so much more effective than Gouffran as a wide player.... he can take people on and commit defenders while creating chances. Gouffran is ineffective out wide really while Remy isn't and there's nothing wrong with a bit of movement with them swapping positions either as a lot of Remy's chances seem to come from drifting inside from the LW position where he doesn't get picked up. I can see where you are coming from and why Pard's did it but our entire front 3 was out of position in the first half which caused them to not have a clue what was going on. Better balance in the 2nd half and hopefully lessons are learned. I agree with Inochi that Remy is probably a better striker, but at the moment the team is better when Remy is wide than anyone else. He just causes more problems for defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 He's twice the striker Gouffran will ever be, and so much more clinical. I think the idea in playing him as the front man, was to finish our few chances on the break. That they never materialised isn't his fault. But, I understood the selection. Thing is Remy is so much more effective than Gouffran as a wide player.... he can take people on and commit defenders while creating chances. Gouffran is ineffective out wide really while Remy isn't and there's nothing wrong with a bit of movement with them swapping positions either as a lot of Remy's chances seem to come from drifting inside from the LW position where he doesn't get picked up. I can see where you are coming from and why Pard's did it but our entire front 3 was out of position in the first half which caused them to not have a clue what was going on. Better balance in the 2nd half and hopefully lessons are learned. I agree with Inochi that Remy is probably a better striker, but at the moment the team is better when Remy is wide than anyone else. He just causes more problems for defenders. yeah, that's one of the reasons I wasn't sure about dropping Cisse. If we are going to keep Cisse benched then Gouffran has to play as the central striker. I don't see why it should be a problem, it is supposedly his natural position after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 He's twice the striker Gouffran will ever be, and so much more clinical. I think the idea in playing him as the front man, was to finish our few chances on the break. That they never materialised isn't his fault. But, I understood the selection. Thing is Remy is so much more effective than Gouffran as a wide player.... he can take people on and commit defenders while creating chances. Gouffran is ineffective out wide really while Remy isn't and there's nothing wrong with a bit of movement with them swapping positions either as a lot of Remy's chances seem to come from drifting inside from the LW position where he doesn't get picked up. I can see where you are coming from and why Pard's did it but our entire front 3 was out of position in the first half which caused them to not have a clue what was going on. Better balance in the 2nd half and hopefully lessons are learned. I agree with Inochi that Remy is probably a better striker, but at the moment the team is better when Remy is wide than anyone else. He just causes more problems for defenders. yeah, that's one of the reasons I wasn't sure about dropping Cisse. If we are going to keep Cisse benched then Gouffran has to play as the central striker. I don't see why it should be a problem, it is supposedly his natural position after all. Exactly. If we had a natural left winger it would be different and I could understand Remy in the central position, but we don't, so it has to be Remy out wide where he's proven to be very effective unlike other forwards we have tried there over the years. Then it's between Cisse and Gouffran for the central spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? He did badly at the Euros, he'll have to show some pretty good form over a sustained period to get back in. At the memnet there are question marks whether he'll even start at Cardiff never mind for France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? He's not playing well enough to get in the national team, you need to be playing better than 1 good game in in 5 to play for your club side never mind your country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? He's not playing well enough to get in the national team, you need to be playing better than 1 good game in in 5 to play for your club side never mind your country. How did Debuchy get in then? WAHEY! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? He's not playing well enough to get in the national team, you need to be playing better than 1 good game in in 5 to play for your club side never mind your country. How did Debuchy get in then? WAHEY! He didn't play shit for France. Boom Boom! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 2 good games in the last 5, to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. No Ben Arfa. A clear signal from Deschamps that he'll never pick him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? What you mean? Just not sure if he's played under Deschamps or not, remember had a bust up with Blanc after Euro's and had a disciplinary meeting and can't remember him being back in since. Just wondering if there is still a grudge from that or their past history is stopping him from being selected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? What you mean? Just not sure if he's played under Deschamps or not, remember had a bust up with Blanc after Euro's and had a disciplinary meeting and can't remember him being back in since. Just wondering if there is still a grudge from that or their past history is stopping him from being selected. Deschamps was manager of Marseilles when he joined us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? He's not playing well enough to get in the national team, you need to be playing better than 1 good game in in 5 to play for your club side never mind your country. If that's the criteria, he's played better than Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all put together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Not really a shock, we've seen he can be a very good player and he's only played a few games for us. Benzema, Giroud and Remy, quite a decent striker pool to pick from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Not really a shock, we've seen he can be a very good player and he's only played a few games for us. Benzema, Giroud and Remy, quite a decent striker pool to pick from. Agree, and Remy could become a serious contender, as Giroud and Benzema have efficiency problems with the national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 seem to have missed somewhere decision about his case has been extended to november Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 In the France squad apparently. Him, Cabaye, Sissoko and Debuchy all are. Has Ben Arfa fell out with the national management again or just overlooked? He's not playing well enough to get in the national team, you need to be playing better than 1 good game in in 5 to play for your club side never mind your country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Deserves it tbh, been in great form since he joined. Now I pray he comes back without injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 It's a funny situation, on one hand we obviously want him to do well while he's with us but if he does, there will be others in for him in the summer and no doubt Redknapp with get QPR back up so he could also go back there if he wants. He's already turned us down once when another team showed interest, if there is a minimum release still active in his contract then bigger clubs than QPR will be looking at him in the summer assuming he continues his current form and the legal issues are resolved. This is why I hate loans, but I do understand the need for it in his case, just hope we've protected ourselves with some kind of clause that gives us first option or something, as the guy from the games we've seen is just the player we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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