BlueStar Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Who did you support in the Olympics Froggy, the US or China? Shocking to see the likes of yourself come out with that Bluestar. How come? I've spent the last two decades berating adoptive Man U fans online and in reality, it shouldn't come as that much of a shock. Yes, there are followers of other clubs who have decided to follow them for whatever reason, but Man U's entire business model is based on bandwagon jumpers and their 'global brand'. And which other team has had such a sustained period of trophy winning and success that an entire generation of people can't have started watching them when they were in the doldrums? Show up on another team's forum as a Man U fan from Ireland, Spain or London posting photos of Fergie grinning after his performance today and I don't know exactly what you expect the response to be. I can't imagine it would be different on any other board. I posted a picture of Alex Ferguson in a thread called Alex Ferguson. It was mainly to joke with Wormy, who will have taken absolutely no offence to it, as he's capable of banter. If that picture is what annoyed you there's problems there like. I'll remove it if it's so terrible to you. I know this is a Newcastle forum, but Alex Ferguson is iconic to me, and I've sat there and watched him being torn apart on this forum without any sort of retaliation but a picture of him. Is that really so horrific? I was getting plenty of abuse before that picture as well. So don't pick that as the main reason for your berating. I'm not annoyed in the slightest, the people who are annoyed are those who are some how baffled that an Irish Man U fan will be getting stick for being a glory hunter on another team's forum after a game like that. I don't think the Fergie picture is any more or less 'banter' than the stick you get for the team you picked, it's exactly to be expected. Fergie is to managers what Joey Barton, Craig Bellemy or Luis Suarez is to players, if he's on your team I think you'll love him no matter what he does, to anyone else he's a prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Who did you support in the Olympics Froggy, the US or China? Shocking to see the likes of yourself come out with that Bluestar. How come? I've spent the last two decades berating adoptive Man U fans online and in reality, it shouldn't come as that much of a shock. Yes, there are followers of other clubs who have decided to follow them for whatever reason, but Man U's entire business model is based on bandwagon jumpers and their 'global brand'. And which other team has had such a sustained period of trophy winning and success that an entire generation of people can't have started watching them when they were in the doldrums? Show up on another team's forum as a Man U fan from Ireland, Spain or London posting photos of Fergie grinning after his performance today and I don't know exactly what you expect the response to be. I can't imagine it would be different on any other board. I posted a picture of Alex Ferguson in a thread called Alex Ferguson. It was mainly to joke with Wormy, who will have taken absolutely no offence to it, as he's capable of banter. If that picture is what annoyed you there's problems there like. I'll remove it if it's so terrible to you. I know this is a Newcastle forum, but Alex Ferguson is iconic to me, and I've sat there and watched him being torn apart on this forum without any sort of retaliation but a picture of him. Is that really so horrific? I was getting plenty of abuse before that picture as well. So don't pick that as the main reason for your berating. I'm not annoyed in the slightest, the people who are annoyed are those who are some how baffled that an Irish Man U fan with be getting stick for being a glory hunter on another team's forum after a game like that. I don't think the Fergie picture is any more or less 'banter' that the stick you get for the team you picked. Fergie is to managers what Joey Barton, Craig Bellemy or Luis Suarez is to players, if he's on your team I think you'll love him no matter what he does, to anyone else he's a prick. Agree to disagree. Being called a disgrace for supporting Manchester United isn't any more or less banter than posting a picture of Fergie in the Alex Ferguson thread? That's fair enough then. I get banter from some people about it, which is fine, I love banter, especially with football. There are quite clearly some people here who are NOT joking around though. Like I said, being called a disgrace. Being accused of supporting Manchester United to gain fake popularity with people and claming that I think my club has a God given right to win things. All incorrect, all offensive to certain degrees, and certainly not banter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 this is some children of the corn, "kill the interloper" style shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There's stuff in football that regularly crosses the line, but surely a word like 'disgrace' to describe managers, supporters, clubs, tackles, referees and players is probably one of the most used words in the game and something that would rarely cause genuine upset to all but the most thin-skinned fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Back to the actual game, enjoyed people shouting out "Could have killed him man" and "He's lucky to be alive after that" after every slightly dodgy tackle and even after hand balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I get banter from some people about it, which is fine, I love banter, especially with football. There are quite clearly some people here who are NOT joking around though. Like I said, being called a disgrace. Being accused of supporting Manchester United to gain fake popularity with people and claming that I think my club has a God given right to win things. All incorrect, all offensive to certain degrees, and certainly not banter. Think you're a decent poster mate, but for future reference next time your team turns us over might be best to stay on the down-low for a day or so until emotions calm down - we'll all be fucked off with Arsenal and Wenger's cheating dirty ways in a couple of days and forget how much we hate your lot for a while! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There's stuff in football that regularly crosses the line, but surely a word like 'disgrace' to describe managers, supporters, clubs, tackles, referees and players is probably one of the most used words in the game and something that would rarely cause genuine upset to all but the most thin-skinned fans. Nah I disagree with that. It's different calling a group of fans a disgrace and then singling out somebody in a debate and flat out calling them a disgrace for nothing but supporting a club. It's not my fault someone else wrongly disputes my reasons. In cases like that being called a disgrace isn't really fair. Prepared to drop it now mind. Onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I get banter from some people about it, which is fine, I love banter, especially with football. There are quite clearly some people here who are NOT joking around though. Like I said, being called a disgrace. Being accused of supporting Manchester United to gain fake popularity with people and claming that I think my club has a God given right to win things. All incorrect, all offensive to certain degrees, and certainly not banter. Think you're a decent poster mate, but for future reference next time your team turns us over might be best to stay on the down-low for a day or so until emotions calm down - we'll all be fucked off with Arsenal and Wenger's cheating dirty ways in a couple of days and forget how much we hate your lot for a while! Aye I'll keep that in mind. Didn't even think of leaving it after the whistle as I was here the whole way through the match. Can see how it would have been annoying with emotions running high after such a game. I wish you lot would win the league so I could support NUFC instead though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open_C Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I wish you lot would win the league so I could support NUFC instead though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The thing is Froggy surely you know that coming to your opponents forum right after the game that ended with an injury time defeat posting a picture of the manager who quite frankly acted in a way that is a disgrace to the game is intense provocation and would result in some strong words. Banter is one thing but when you poke a hornet's nest with your dick surely you don't expect to come out with your dick still functioning. Give it a few days and the tone and content of the conversation would be very different. Although I don't think you're a typical glory hunter, in this instance and based on your provocation, I have absolutely no sympathy for you. You deserve every bit you're getting and more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The thing is Froggy surely you know that coming to your opponents forum right after the game that ended with an injury time defeat posting a picture of the manager who quite frankly acted in a way that is a disgrace to the game is intense provocation and would result in some strong words. Banter is one thing but when you poke a hornet's nest with your dick surely you don't expect to come out with your dick still functioning. Give it a few days and the tone and content of the conversation would be very different. Although I don't think you're a typical glory hunter, in this instance and based on your provocation, I have absolutely no sympathy for you. You deserve every bit you're getting and more. The Fergie picture was after the initial glory hunter stuff aimed at me, but aye I can see why that would annoy some people I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Cannot really argue with most of that alpal apart from getting more abuse. Glad to see that the media are reporting the injury now when our match is mentioned. You know, the impotant injury to Wayne Rooney that wasn't related to the game. Not one fucking mention of Anita 'almost being killed'. Could you imagine the reports if it had been Rooney on the end of that challenge and a Newcastle player getting away without a second yellow? Of course you can't because the match report would have ended with 'and Newcastle were reduced to ten men late on...' - which ironically we were anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I am giving MOTD, SSN, Radio etc, the widest birth possible for a couple of days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 We have no right to slate Man United supporters for being glory hunters. For the one Korean Scunthorpe United supporter that I'm sure exists somewhere on this Earth, I'm probably just as much of a glory hunting c***. It's all relative. What absolute bullsh*t. You follow Man Yoo because they win. End of. There are tons of sneering glorying posts after a Man Yoo victory all over the place. The number actually FROM Manchester are few and far between. Gloryhunters is, to say the LEAST an understatement. By the way, Alan "Ars*hole" Brazil was at it again this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Is this still going? http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md774wjh9X1r9piwi.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I am giving MOTD, SSN, Radio etc, the widest birth possible for a couple of days. Got in from the pub last night and stuck the telly on, it happened to be showing our game so there was a mad scramble as 3 of us dived for the remote to change the channel. Can't be arsed to remember the game in detail, but as usual it was the fucking hope that killed me. I was all prepared to lose, but not like that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 We have no right to slate Man United supporters for being glory hunters. For the one Korean Scunthorpe United supporter that I'm sure exists somewhere on this Earth, I'm probably just as much of a glory hunting cunt. It's all relative. What I do hate is people who purport to 'support' Man U when in reality they just follow the brand name. They'll never go to a game, hell, they won't even watch the games if they have anything better to do. The club barely touches them emotionally at all but for them Man U is a successful brand that they just want as part of their image, like wearing an Armani suit or driving a Mercedes. These very same people are almost unerringly the most arrogant and belittling towards supporters of other clubs. They are scum of the Earth and should be rounded up, put into a labor camp, and forced to watch Stoke v. Stoke Reserves for the rest of their natural lives. Froggy, however, is clearly not one of these. Mentioned it last game but was in a pub full of Man U 'supporters' last time we played and their reaction to their goal was pathetic. Proper 'Whhheeeyyyyy we have scored one of those goal thingies' when one of them had taken a moment out of talking about Hollyoaks (or something) to glance up at the screen and realise the red team seemed to be celebrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Man Utds crowds have increased by around 30k since they started winning the league regular. thats what they have- about 40k real supporters+ glory hunters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 We have no right to slate Man United supporters for being glory hunters. For the one Korean Scunthorpe United supporter that I'm sure exists somewhere on this Earth, I'm probably just as much of a glory hunting cunt. It's all relative. What I do hate is people who purport to 'support' Man U when in reality they just follow the brand name. They'll never go to a game, hell, they won't even watch the games if they have anything better to do. The club barely touches them emotionally at all but for them Man U is a successful brand that they just want as part of their image, like wearing an Armani suit or driving a Mercedes. These very same people are almost unerringly the most arrogant and belittling towards supporters of other clubs. They are scum of the Earth and should be rounded up, put into a labor camp, and forced to watch Stoke v. Stoke Reserves for the rest of their natural lives. Froggy, however, is clearly not one of these. Mentioned it last game but was in a pub full of Man U 'supporters' last time we played and their reaction to their goal was pathetic. Proper 'Whhheeeyyyyy we have scored one of those goal thingies' when one of them had taken a moment out of talking about Hollyoaks (or something) to glance up at the screen and realise the red team seemed to be celebrating. reminds me of being in Islington the night Arsenal won the title at Anfield , and some posh cunts in a car with a flag on top went past and shouted at me -' We won the cup'.....' No you didnt it was the league' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Man, this defeat hurts like fucking hell, I was surrounded my Man Utd fans as well during it, but am I coming on here acting like a baby? No. I know Froggy personally and he is one of the most level headed Man Utd fans you could meet, trust me I've seen the worst of the worst. People are slating him on here because we're just on the end of bad defeat. Froggy has shit loads of posts on here and has been on here for ages, why complain now? I'm not from Newcastle, I could have supported a team in League Two but I'm supporting a Premier League team, I guess I'm not a real fan now too in the eyes of Billy I should just fuck off as well. People need to get a grip, seriously. Man Utd has an army of glory hunting cunts, but that doesn't make them all like that, if it does then what about me, Kaizero, Oldtype etc? Are we fine because Newcastle don't win anything? What happens if Newcastle suddenly become extremely successful, does our status as supporters change because we aren't local? It's Boxing Day, go out and have a few beers and forget about this result until tomorrow when you calm down. What a load of shite. He supports Manchester United because they are table toppers. Glory hunters do. Or Liverpool. Or any other parennial title winners over the years. That's why I enjoy our Northern/Southern Irish/ around the World support. Because they're not doing it for the glory, the off hand snidey remarks they can belittle other football fans with, they're doing it to be real fans...fans who experience pain. When I say pain, I don't mean not winning a trophy for a year or two, or even losing one in the last minute to your nearest rivals. Though that would obviously hurt. I mean going years without even looking like winning anything, even getting relegated a few times as we have. So when we do eventually win something, it will mean something, because we are a proper club with proper supporters, not a club or fans who believe we have a God given right to success, as we obviously don't. I honestly do not understand the mentality of glory hunting...maybe supporting Manchester United/ Chelsea/Liverpool in the 80's helps to provide a fake popularity amongst peers? So he gets completely slated because he supports a successful club? I get where you're coming from, but I think you're just jumping down his throat because he supports Man Utd and we lost to them in a harsh way today. Just because someone supports a successful club doesn't mean they are a clueless fan or that they are automatically always unreasonable. I don't see where Froggy slated Newcastle on here or rubbed our noses in it, yet people are jumping down his throat. It is clearly just because he is a non-Manchester based Man Utd fan, and for nothing else. People on here need to be bigger than that. There was gloating as many will testify to. I'm not saying anymore on the subject. I'm sorry Decky if you're upset about your mate's treatment...I said things after he attempted to make humour about my parents I'm not very proud of and for that I shall apologise unreservedly. But on the main point, you are wrong... I detest glory huntery every day of the year...it's why I loathed Liverpool whilst growing up, and it's why I've loathed Manchester United for the last 20 years...I make no apologies here mind....if you have no connection to a place who's incumbent football team keeps winning silverware , and you "support" said team , you'll get no respect from me whatsoever in footballing discussion. What is the difference between me and him? What scale is glory hunting rated on? Success in one league? A lot of League One, Two and below would see me as a glory hunter. I have no connections to Newcastle, yet I support them, a Premier League team. You can go on about glory hunting until the cows come home, but your point doesn't stop with trophies, Newcastle are incredibly successful and the likes of myself have only become supporters off the back of it. Are we less a supporter than you Billy? Should the likes of me and the other foreigners just do one with Froggy? Edit: In reply to this: "if you have no connection to a place who's incumbent football team keeps winning silverware , and you "support" said team , you'll get no respect from me whatsoever". Again, if Newcastle win a few trophies are we automatically less a supporter? Don't be silly Declan, of course glory hunting stops with trophies. We haven't won one for 43 years. You'd be the worst glory hunter in the World supporting us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Knowing when to just shut the fuck up is a key lifeskill. Sadly, some people have great difficulty in learning it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I used to live with a Northern Irish guy who supported Man U and Celtic. Man U because his dad did (His dad no doubt followed George Best) and Celtic because he was a Catholic. So there can be other reasons for supporting a team. However, he was insufferable cunt on weekends as well. Gloating to me when both won and if either team lost, he didn't care at all, and his standard response to me was "at least we've won all these cups", and "at least is support the best two teams", he also often asked why I supported Newcastle and why I didn't have a second team in Scotland (I was living in Glasgow at the time). So for a while I went to Partick Thistle games for a laugh, but it didn't feel anything like watching the toon so I jacked it. He has never ever felt footballing pain, because at the end of the day, he like most other fans of Man U, just don't 'get it'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm Irish, catholic and hate Celtic. I have friends who say they support both and reckon they can't decide who to go for when the two play each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm Irish, catholic and hate Celtic. I have friends who say they support both and reckon they can't decide who to go for when the two play each other. Never understood this attitude, I support Newcastle but like Luton given my location and a lot of my mates support them so I have been to a fair amount of their games. If we played Luton I would hope we stuffed them by the biggest margin we could manage, so much so that my mates would cry a little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 All you hear over here is how good the fans of Celtic are too. 90% of the ones I know are all cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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