junkhead Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 The most important thing is he stays fit. He has enough quality and determination to be an asset in this league but I doubt he'd get many chances. We have so many reliable fullbacks now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Happy to see him back. Never nice for someone to be out so long. Possibly back in the lineup against Wolves in the cup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 He's looked our best LB by a mile for me. The lads pap. Good kid, pap player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Pap post by a pap poster. Must be that jersey shore look and facial expressions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Not sure what Paul Papp has to do with this, he's a right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 what about that bad game against Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Pap post by a pap poster. Must be that jersey shore look and facial expressions. That Ian W post is just as bad tbf. He has never looked our best left back, never mind by a mile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Ian posted that in March ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 What's going on here then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If Rafa can't make a decent LB out of this lad, nobody can but my money is on him emerging as a genuine LB competitor by Christmas....he has genuine attacking ability with the ability to cross on the run with his left foot, but defensive side needs lots of work If I'm wrong, he'll be on his bike during the Jan window. There's potential there, just depends on whether he can learn to take instruction from a genuine coach. Also, with him being crocked for most of the time every season you have to wonder how much more time or money we'll be prepared to invest in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't see anything except a good athlete who is okay 1v1 in defensive areas. Crossing, passing, general defending, pap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't see anything except a good athlete who is okay 1v1 in defensive areas. Crossing, passing, general defending, pap. Yet you praised Dummett for having the exact same attributes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 He's much better going forward than any of our other options (before Lazaar signed). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 He's much better going forward than any of our other options (before Lazaar signed). I agree though defensively naive at times. He's still young though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 He's much better going forward than any of our other options (before Lazaar signed). Literally can't remember one thing he's done going forward. Usually gets to the byline and does a shit cross. Even his athleticism which was his major strong point could be weakened after all these injuries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 He's much better going forward than any of our other options (before Lazaar signed). Literally can't remember one thing he's done going forward. Usually gets to the byline and does a shit cross. Even his athleticism which was his major strong point could be weakened after all these injuries In the match against Stoke a couple of seasons ago where they had two players sent off, he was given licence to maraud forward more and was winging in some lovely crosses. I think a good coach who could sort his role out could make a good full back out of him. But like I said, given his injuries I'm not sure we'll bother with him too much longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 His crosses end up hitting the first defender 9/10 times. When it doesn't it's mostly a poor cross without adress. Just because he is quick some people think he is good offensively which he is not. His technique and ball handling is average at best. He handles the ball as if it is a handgrenade at times. He is extremely raw and I just don't think he has enough natural talent to make it a success here. Might be "ok" for this league at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't see anything except a good athlete who is okay 1v1 in defensive areas. Crossing, passing, general defending, pap. the college papout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Look at the comments from here after the last game he started, against Watford the start of last season. It's a simple case of "player getting better the longer he goes without playing" if anyone here really rates him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Before his leg break he was probably our best LB, after that, he's been naff defensively and decent enough going forward. If you combine him and Dummett, you'd a distinctively average full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't see anything except a good athlete who is okay 1v1 in defensive areas. Crossing, passing, general defending, pap. the college papout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Before his leg break he was probably our best LB, after that, he's been naff defensively and decent enough going forward. If you combine him and Dummett, you'd a distinctively average full back. You combine the two and you get Davide Santon. You combine all three and you get Alessandro Pistone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't see anything except a good athlete who is okay 1v1 in defensive areas. Crossing, passing, general defending, pap. Yet you praised Dummett for having the exact same attributes? Dummett is a good defender. He knows how to defend with his mind. He generally makes the right decisions. He's generally where he's meant to be positionally. Rarely too tight. Rarely too wide. Has good concentration. Strong in the air. He's just always thinking about danger and how to stop it. Much like Aaron Hughes, he's probably not considered a CB for us due to a perceived lack of strength but he thinks like a proper defender. He's rarely responsible for cheap goals. He's rarely sleeping at the back post. But yes he's pap going forward and on the ball. And he's not a great athlete, lacks agility. Haidara on the other hand does not know how to defend. He's still learning the position. He gets caught napping when the ball is on the other side. He's in the wrong positions a fair bit. That would be fine if he was any good going forward but he's not. The vast majority of his crosses don't beat the man blocking it. He also often does the Dummett aimless chip upfield. Overall football skills Dummett-esque with better athleticism without knowing how to defend or the aerial prowess. Davide Santon - a decent footballer. Good touch. Passing and movement okay. Produced the square root of eff all in the final third and couldn't defend. The amount of goals conceded with him and Colo on that left side not caring at all about their responsibilities was shameful. Masters of pap. Santon couldn't even be bothered to run back into position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If Rafa can't make a decent LB out of this lad, nobody can but my money is on him emerging as a genuine LB competitor by Christmas....he has genuine attacking ability with the ability to cross on the run with his left foot, but defensive side needs lots of work If I'm wrong, he'll be on his bike during the Jan window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 He'll be off soon anyway. Dummett's exactly Rafa's type of defender and character. Can't see him losing that position with the exception of the odd rotation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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