KaKa Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Can imagine the first time he brought it out from the back. Pardew: "What's he done that for?! What a weirdo" And so the stigma was set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Good enough to start against Bayern Münich but not good enough to start against Läster... Seriously :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I still can't believe he sent him out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I still can't believe he sent him out on loan. It was definitely what broke me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Would love him to play great tonight, and i've got a feeling he will. Why couldn't we get Garcia instead of Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Would love him to play great tonight, and i've got a feeling he will. Why couldn't we get Garcia instead of Pardew You know why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Good enough to start against Bayern Münich but not good enough to start against Läster... Seriously :lol: Mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Can imagine the first time he brought it out from the back. Pardew: "What's he done that for?! What a weirdo" And so the stigma was set. Freak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The commentator (not ex-Mackem 'Desperate Don'!) has had a dig at him for his apparent form when he played for us - tit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Having a shocker here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Poor defending on the third goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Arguably been at fault for the last two goals, definitely the third one and should have got closer to Muller for the second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Willo 4 Roma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Arguably been at fault for the last two goals, definitely the third one and should have got closer to Muller for the second. Nah, someone left Gotze, Yanga stood his ground, kept Muller with his back to goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 He should've been closer to Muller, if you look he's slow to react to run which allows Muller the time to play it back to Gotze. He should've been tighter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Nah, dont agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The whole defence is all over the place. MYM looks good on the ball but his positioning is shit to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So, we can all agree he's shit after all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 He should've been closer to Muller, if you look he's slow to react to run which allows Muller the time to play it back to Gotze. He should've been tighter. He's as tight as you could be and stopped him turning. His man didn't score you know? Just because Muller didn't score it doesn't mean that Mbiwa can't have been at fault for some of the build up play, watch Muller's movement and you'll see Mbiwa is miles off him and really late to react. He's far more concerned with Gotze infront of him, this is what causes him to lose his man which is Muller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 okay let's blame him for a goal that he had nowt to do with. He lost his man which allowed Muller to play a one two with the goal scorer, I struggle to see how that doesn't at least lay some of the blame at Mbiwa. I like Mbiwa but he's been caught out on more than one occasion today, he's also done some good stuff as well but let's not pretend he's been great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 He's marking his man, he's between him and goal so that he can't turn to shoot, so he's certainly not at fault for the goal whether he could have done better or been tighter or not. The lad who doesn't follow Gotze is at fault. Yanga-Mbiwa was at fault for the 3rd though, hard to find a single Roma defender who hasn't been caught out by Bayern, Cole was twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 You can still lose your man but have him end up with his back to goal, he's slow to react to Muller's run which allow him an easy lay off into the path of the goalscorer. He's ball watching again for the third goal, he's got some massive plus points in his game but he's been poor tonight at the basics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Is the argument here really that because Yanga-Mbiwa doesn't stop Muller from receiving the ball in the first place he's at fault for the goal? Even though Gotze is allow to get his shot away due to another defender completely losing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 KDT is wrong, lets move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Still think that he should've been tighter after watching the replay for the 2nd, clearly I'm in the minority on that one though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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