AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Far too much of this bullshit, like. Classy attacking player = classy attacking manager. It's such baseless bollocks. Defender = defensive seems to be proving itself mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I really don't think we need a manager with PL experience. I would much rather see a foreign manager with a decent grasp of tactics to come in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Far too much of this bullshit, like. Classy attacking player = classy attacking manager. It's such baseless bollocks. Defender = defensive seems to be proving itself mind yeah, southampton looked proper defensive at the weekend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Moyes for me. Probably need to accept the fact that we never seem to hire foreign managers. Be over the moon with Moyes. Perfect appointment agree. Rio Ferdinand having a go at him in his new book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Far too much of this bullshit, like. Classy attacking player = classy attacking manager. It's such baseless bollocks. Defender = defensive seems to be proving itself mind Wish Pardew was a defender, we might be able to keep a clean sheet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Based on the fact he's not Alan Pardew and he actually gets his teams to attack. Doesn't mean I actually think he's any good, he'd simply have a refreshing philosophy considering what we've generally been served up over the last 4 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Would much rather have someone like De Boer than Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 moyes would be absolutely ideal, I think. Ashley has gone for him before apparently, will be interesting to see if he does again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Based on the fact he's not Alan Pardew and he actually gets his teams to attack. Doesn't mean I actually think he's any good, he'd simply have a refreshing philosophy considering what we've generally been served up over the last 4 years. You would snap every limb off for someone you dont think is very good? Strange logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Would much rather have someone like De Boer than Moyes. i´d much rather have someone like mourinho than de boer, but we´re trying to be as realistic as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Far too much of this bullshit, like. Classy attacking player = classy attacking manager. It's such baseless bollocks. Apart from his team's have actually played attacking football? Will reiterate what I said to Kint; I don't actually rate him much, he's just not a fanny when it comes to winning games and would happily work in our structure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Would much rather have someone like De Boer than Moyes. Dare say De boer has a choice in it like, sure he would come to avoid the Champions League this week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I didn't say that De Boer is very realistic, did i... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Based on the fact he's not Alan Pardew and he actually gets his teams to attack. Doesn't mean I actually think he's any good, he'd simply have a refreshing philosophy considering what we've generally been served up over the last 4 years. You would snap every limb off for someone you dont think is very good? Strange logic I'd snap every limb off to not witness an Alan Pardew borefest ever again. I'm at the point where I just want us to attack and be somewhat exciting. To play some actual football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I didn't say that De Boer is very realistic, did i... Might as well have said you prefer Mourinho if pointless suggestions floats your boat..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Based on the fact he's not Alan Pardew and he actually gets his teams to attack. Doesn't mean I actually think he's any good, he'd simply have a refreshing philosophy considering what we've generally been served up over the last 4 years. You would snap every limb off for someone you dont think is very good? Strange logic I'd snap every limb off to not witness an Alan Pardew borefest ever again. I'm at the point where I just want us to attack and be somewhat exciting. To play some actual football. No you said for Zola, not to be rid of Pardew. Big difference and i dont remember Watford being that exciting either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Yeah whatever... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Would much rather have someone like De Boer than Moyes. many would like de boer, pepe or mourinho Moyes is a bit more realistic imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 A lot of the good appointments over the last few years have been promising young managers on the up and involved thinking outside of the box. Martinez, Rodgers, Pocchetino etc. This is what I don't understand about the "there's nobody available" argument. What people mean is they can only think of about 5 managers currently out of a job who are usually on the British manager merry-go-round. Who knew about Rodgers when he was coaching Chelsea's reserves or Pocchetino when he was at Espanyol? Few I'd imagine. There's got to be literally hundreds of coaches/managers working with less resources, on less money who'd kill for a PL job. The Premier League is a cash bonanza because of the TV money, even at a club with tightarse cunt owner like ours gets more freedom on transfers and wages than many clubs across Europe and in the lower leagues. Other than the Russian Premier League, PSG and the top 2 in Spain most of Europe is running on a net transfer profit. There's an argument that we need somebody with experience in the PL already to steady the ship but I'm not sure. I just want somebody who has coaching ability, a vision and a personality to back it up. Poyet kept the mackems up after they gave the rest of the league an 8 game head start, any decent twat could keep us up imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I really don't think we need a manager with PL experience. I would much rather see a foreign manager with a decent grasp of tactics to come in. This time last year when we had some real quality - I would agree. Now, We need someone with some type of PL/British league experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 A lot of the good appointments over the last few years have been promising young managers on the up and involved thinking outside of the box. Martinez, Rodgers, Pocchetino etc. This is what I don't understand about the "there's nobody available" argument. What people mean is they can only think of about 5 managers currently out of a job who are usually on the British manager merry-go-round. Who knew about Rodgers when he was coaching Chelsea's reserves or Pocchetino when he was at Espanyol? Few I'd imagine. There's got to be literally hundreds of coaches/managers working with less resources, on less money who'd kill for a PL job. The Premier League is a cash bonanza because of the TV money, even at a club with tightarse cunt owner like ours gets more freedom on transfers and wages than many clubs across Europe and in the lower leagues. Other than the Russian Premier League, PSG and the top 2 in Spain most of Europe is running on a net transfer profit. There's an argument that we need somebody with experience in the PL already to steady the ship but I'm not sure. I just want somebody who has coaching ability, a vision and a personality to back it up. Poyet kept the mackems up after they gave the rest of the league an 8 game head start, any decent twat could keep us up imo. Completely agree, and also think it's stupid that callers on phone-ins get asked "but who would you go for" as if it's their job to know about all these managers of La Liga and Ligue Un clubs. I'm more reluctant than almost anyone to change the manager, but Pardew has had a number of years now. Stability isn't an argument that makes any sense any more. Although it did before, so I was right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 We need a manager that knows how to make a team play football Don't care about where he's from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I think our only hope of getting a reasonable replacement is that Lee Charnley and Graham Carr have some say in this whole process. I don't know much about Charnley but for some reason I have more confidence in him making an informed decision than I do Ashley, Llambias, Kinnear or any other behind-the-scenes croney we've had. I've no idea where this faith comes from but i've got to cling to something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Based on the fact he's not Alan Pardew and he actually gets his teams to attack. Doesn't mean I actually think he's any good, he'd simply have a refreshing philosophy considering what we've generally been served up over the last 4 years. You would snap every limb off for someone you dont think is very good? Strange logic I'd snap every limb off to not witness an Alan Pardew borefest ever again. I'm at the point where I just want us to attack and be somewhat exciting. To play some actual football. No you said for Zola, not to be rid of Pardew. Big difference and i dont remember Watford being that exciting either I'm confused as to how you think my wanting of Zola and dislike of Pardew are mutually exclusive? Watford played some very decent stuff during his tenure. I'll rephrase: the dross that has been on show for the last 4 years has led me to a place of desperation where I'd happily have a manager I don't even rate that much to be put in charge of the team simply because he sets teams up to win games by as many goals as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Zola would come here, IMO, and I'd snap every limb off to get him. Based on what? Done nothing at all as manager of West Ham and couldnt get Watfords team up despite being given the best players in the league Based on the fact he's not Alan Pardew and he actually gets his teams to attack. Doesn't mean I actually think he's any good, he'd simply have a refreshing philosophy considering what we've generally been served up over the last 4 years. You would snap every limb off for someone you dont think is very good? Strange logic I'd snap every limb off to not witness an Alan Pardew borefest ever again. I'm at the point where I just want us to attack and be somewhat exciting. To play some actual football. No you said for Zola, not to be rid of Pardew. Big difference and i dont remember Watford being that exciting either I'm confused as to how you think my wanting of Zola and dislike of Pardew are mutually exclusive? Watford played some very decent stuff during his tenure. I'll rephrase: the dross that has been on show for the last 4 years has led me to a place of desperation where I'd happily have a manager I don't even rate that much to be put in charge of the team simply because he sets teams up to win games by as many goals as possible. Your original post was solely about Zola. There was no mention of Pardew and the idea you would snap off every limb to get another poor manager is bizarre. I would reserve that for unrealistic mangers but not one i admit to not rating. It doesnt have to be mutually excusive to be stupid tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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