Guest chicken little Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 30/09/2014 at 03:16, SEMTEX said: Trust me, it'd be a week before you realize what kind of man Peter Beardsley is and it'll just be another childhood idol on the scrap heap with all the paedos. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 18:11, Wullie said: Frank de Boer never has anything but good things to say about Newcastle. I'd sell my granny to have him here. The things he says about Anita here man: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/frank-de-boer-backs-vurnon-1369506 And we've got f***ing Jackie Colbers wandering around doing jack all while Anita can't get on the pitch. What an utter embarrassment. we can but dream. we, sadly, wont be going for anyone of his calibre, so I hope we go for someone established. Someone who has done it over a number of years in the prem, so its moyes, or, dare i say it, pulis for me (I like Pulis as a bloke, he's honest, which probably rules him out, and, for some reason, I think he'd 'get' it here). We cant go for the latest flavour of the month, nigel adkins and uwe rosler are two who I would have taken at one point, but wouldn't now. Laudrup the same tbh, Swansea binned him at teh same time as we should have binned pardew (as in, at the right time in his second season when he was starting to flop). Moyes or Pulis for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 can we reset the poll btw? Koeman, for example needs to be taken off, and macalren etc added. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Di Matteo 58 (6.1%) Dyche 15 (1.6%) Favre 37 (3.9%) Garde 68 (7.2%) Girard 53 (5.6%) Gourcouff 16 (1.7%) Hitzfeld 49 (5.2%) Howe 20 (2.1%) Ketsbaia 95 (10.1%) Koeman 29 (3.1%) Laudrup 161 (17.1%) Moyes 166 (17.6%) Pulis 27 (2.9%) Rösler 40 (4.2%) Sherwood 15 (1.6%) Van Basten 39 (4.1%) Nothing will change, everything is terrible forever 56 (5.9%) FINAL RESULTS. New Poll: Please state if you want anyone (sensible) adding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 macalren, clark, moyes, pulis, lennon, hoddle, sherwood, bruce, curbishley, mckay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 i ticked maclaren instead of pulis! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Pulis who was sacked from Stoke (Stoke!) purely and simply because the football was so bad would be your choice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I'll leave it locked for a bit 'til we sort out all candidates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 19:39, SanToon said: Quote macalren, clark, moyes, pulis, lennon, hoddle, sherwood, bruce, curbishley, mckay. grim isnt it, but thats the pool we'll pick from i reckon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 No Jemez, Zeman or Terim ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 19:40, Wullie said: Pulis who was sacked from Stoke (Stoke!) purely and simply because the football was so bad would be your choice? Depends what you mean by 'choice'. Would I pick him in an ideal world? Would I fuck, but i'd take him ahead of others from the pool we're likely to pick from. I also think we need someone who's going to keep us up, and I think he would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I'd take David Moyes in a heartbeat if he'd ever come here and I think it's almost crazy for anyone to say they wouldn't. I understand the arguments about in an ideal world and his style isn't all about flair. This however isn't an ideal world and results would almost certainly improve by a vast margin. I also don't believe Moyes style is that terrible. Everton just happened to know how to defend as well as attack. They certainly took us to pieces a few times. To have an organised team would almost be a novelty at this point as well. I'd actually relish a defence that could form a straight line across the back for starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Mental how many people went for Nigel Adkins at the beginning of this btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 19:49, Disco said: Mental how many people went for Nigel Adkins at the beginning of this btw. I know! Rosler gets a canny few mentions later on in the thread too. I was pushing martin Jol, hmm, not so sure after fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 19:43, lovejoy said: Quote Pulis who was sacked from Stoke (Stoke!) purely and simply because the football was so bad would be your choice? Depends what you mean by 'choice'. Would I pick him in an ideal world? Would I fuck, but i'd take him ahead of others from the pool we're likely to pick from. I also think we need someone who's going to keep us up, and I think he would. I just don't understand why anybody thinks that's the pool we'd pick from. Pardew was selected purely and simply because he has no spine and will do anything to please Mike. It's fuck all to do with his nationality. Tony Pulis, who resigned from Palace in a row over transfers, who sued Gillingham after being sacked, who was sacked by Stoke first time round after a big row with the chairman? Apart from Kevin Keegan, there's literally nobody less likely in world football to be offered the job, and nobody less likely to accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 19:51, lovejoy said: Quote Mental how many people went for Nigel Adkins at the beginning of this btw. I know! Rosler gets a canny few mentions later on in the thread too. I was pushing martin Jol, hmm. Think I was Rosler in the second wave of options like. Either way, how low our standards have fallen. Thanks Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I'm all for De Boer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 19:52, Wullie said: Quote Quote Pulis who was sacked from Stoke (Stoke!) purely and simply because the football was so bad would be your choice? Depends what you mean by 'choice'. Would I pick him in an ideal world? Would I f***, but i'd take him ahead of others from the pool we're likely to pick from. I also think we need someone who's going to keep us up, and I think he would. I just don't understand why anybody thinks that's the pool we'd pick from. Pardew was selected purely and simply because he has no spine and will do anything to please Mike. It's f*** all to do with his nationality. Tony Pulis, who resigned from Palace in a row over transfers, who sued Gillingham after being sacked, who was sacked by Stoke first time round after a big row with the chairman? Apart from Kevin Keegan, there's literally nobody less likely in world football to be offered the job, and nobody less likely to accept it. well, when you put it like that..... well we havent appointed foreign under ashley yet, what thinks we will now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 19:54, Ketsbaia said: I'm all for De Boer. he'd be fucking unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 19:55, lovejoy said: Quote Quote Quote Pulis who was sacked from Stoke (Stoke!) purely and simply because the football was so bad would be your choice? Depends what you mean by 'choice'. Would I pick him in an ideal world? Would I f***, but i'd take him ahead of others from the pool we're likely to pick from. I also think we need someone who's going to keep us up, and I think he would. I just don't understand why anybody thinks that's the pool we'd pick from. Pardew was selected purely and simply because he has no spine and will do anything to please Mike. It's f*** all to do with his nationality. Tony Pulis, who resigned from Palace in a row over transfers, who sued Gillingham after being sacked, who was sacked by Stoke first time round after a big row with the chairman? Apart from Kevin Keegan, there's literally nobody less likely in world football to be offered the job, and nobody less likely to accept it. well, when you put it like that..... well we havent appointed foreign under ashley yet, what thinks we will now? He may look at the transfer policy and think foreign managers will be cheaper too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 On 01/10/2014 at 19:55, lovejoy said: Quote Quote Quote Pulis who was sacked from Stoke (Stoke!) purely and simply because the football was so bad would be your choice? Depends what you mean by 'choice'. Would I pick him in an ideal world? Would I f***, but i'd take him ahead of others from the pool we're likely to pick from. I also think we need someone who's going to keep us up, and I think he would. I just don't understand why anybody thinks that's the pool we'd pick from. Pardew was selected purely and simply because he has no spine and will do anything to please Mike. It's f*** all to do with his nationality. Tony Pulis, who resigned from Palace in a row over transfers, who sued Gillingham after being sacked, who was sacked by Stoke first time round after a big row with the chairman? Apart from Kevin Keegan, there's literally nobody less likely in world football to be offered the job, and nobody less likely to accept it. well, when you put it like that..... well we havent appointed foreign under ashley yet, what thinks we will now? We weren't buying solely from the continent back when Pardew was appointed either. There's been a big chance in policy since then. If Graham Carr has as much say as he's supposed to, I could very much see us looking to Europe - managers more used to these types of players, used to having their players bought and sold for them, used to bigger clubs pinching their players. Frank de Boer actually ticks every box as far as that goes, Ajax are one of the biggest selling clubs in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 In an ideal world we must absolutely have a foreign coach who knows how to play good passing and pressing football. It's what we have the players for and it's what the system of the club demands. A British manager is never going to settle into a system where a director and scout choose the players. It'll always give them, like it has with Pardew, a perfect excuse when things go wrong. Football coaches from abroad know the system and demands. They know that the job is to get the best out of what you've given and build a system of play. They're in effect more of a manager than any British manager actually is. British managers in their traditional role are more club controllers, with the be all and end all say below the chairman. That just won't work here. Koeman would have been perfect for our system, as would someone like Pochettino. We need to get a system in place like Southampton and Swansea where every manager fits the footballing philosophy going forward. You never want to be in a position where one person completely controls the fate of the club. That should go for managers and players. Look at Pardew and how reliant he was on Cabaye and Remy, he's a joke. Koeman has lost Lallana, Lambert and Shaw, but he's got some replacements and he's got them working to his system, which is similar to Pochettino's. The club is run well from top to bottom, hence the great academy as well. Newcastle is your typical British old boys network, with badly qualified but friends of friends in each position. We try and buy our way round it, but eventually it shows. Our setup is just rotten and it needs a complete rework. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Think a few people have this the wrong way around tbh. You get a good manager with the kind of judgement you trust. Then you get the scout to look for players in the mould that the manager wants. Not, have a scout you're fond of, let him choose the kind of players he likes, try and find a manager who likes similar players. Manager >>>>>>> Scout by a ridiculous margin every day of the week! Only a club run by total f**king morons puts this ever-so-obvious hierarchy on it's head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Kit Symons based on tonight's result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 De Boer would be awesome, i'd happily accept Moyes though, why did all the Boro fans hate McLaren so much? genuine question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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