Tiresias Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yep not sticking around at Barca to reinvent the team (and some credit he did shift things about his last season, however successfully) does count against him. However the reinvention he instigated when he started was pretty ballsy. Mourinho wants to collect everything and is unlikely to settle down for the long term, so he may never prove that ability. I don't think 'top managers' are million miles above others, and yes the trophies of those afforded the chance at clubs with huge resources does distort the picture significantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't think 'top managers' are million miles above others, and yes the trophies of those afforded the chance at clubs with huge resources does distort the picture significantly. There's something to be said about being able to handle a big club environment. Pellegrini, for all his ability as manager, was devoured by the dressing room and club politics at Real Madrid. That's also a part of football, whether we like it or not. I don't think you could, say, put Curbishley in charge of ManU and be instantly a success. That said, Barça are pretty much managerless nowadays and walking the league (although our form has indeed declined since Vilanova left). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I agree with Wullie. Really like Martinez for that reason. Had several opportunities to move to clubs where they'd throw cash at him and turned them down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I agree with Wullie. Really like Martinez for that reason. Had several opportunities to move to clubs where they'd throw cash at him and turned them down. It's strange that not a single la Liga club has ever gone for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Tbf I don't think Inter are in that top bracket of European club although at the time Mou was there they had an extended run of being top dogs in Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 On the whole thing with managers. It's similar to film directors imo. Most of the time their talent gets them to the top, but then their reputation affords them to stay there. Money, basically. I can't say I wouldn't be the same in their position. FWIW I think anything for Guardiola after Barca would be a challenge considering he left the best team in the world at their peak. Going to Bayern might not have been a massive domestic challenge, but winning the CL with them would be a big deal. And you cannot argue with Mourinho at Inter Milan like, he instantly won the treble ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Barcelona line-up : Valdes - Alves Pique Puyol Alba - Xavi Busquets Cesc - Pedro Messi Iniesta AC Milan line up: Abbiati, Abate, Mexes, Zapata, Constant, Ambrosini, Montolivo, Muntari, El Shaarawy, Pazzini, Boateng Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hope Barca batters them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Some outstanding hyperbole going on about Arsenal on Sky atm. 27 year old Lukas Podolski and 28 year old Per Mertesacker described as 'over the hill' by 'expert' Jamie Redknapp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Mertesacker has been absolute shite for them mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Ah, shit. I totally missed the fact that Balotelli is cup-tied. That sucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Mertesacker has been absolute shite for them mind. That's beside the point, Redknapp was claiming that they could only attract 'over the hill' players like them. Both were 26 when they signed for Arsenal, the ancient fuckers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Samba's 28. Know who I'd rather have out of him and Mertesacker tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Some outstanding hyperbole going on about Arsenal on Sky atm. 27 year old Lukas Podolski and 28 year old Per Mertesacker described as 'over the hill' by 'expert' Jamie Redknapp. To be fair, Redknapp himself was over the hill at 24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 They do talk some absolute shite on sky. Everything's a soap opera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Gullit is so confrontational even though he's the only one talking sense really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Is Glenn Hoddle ill? He looks a bit pale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Gullit is so confrontational even though he's the only one talking sense really. Brilliant pundit, easily the best out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Muntari Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 That Barca strip is rancid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Dat away kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 hate that stip, go milan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Think Milan could get a good result here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Superb clearance... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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