Mole_Toonfan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 As fantastic as Ferguson is i really do get the feeling his team is underrated in general. Carrick and Cleverly are very good, anyone who says other wise is blinded by hatred of the club same goes for Rafeal, Evans, Welbeck etc etc Of course Rooney and RVP are very good, they are just not flashy but the players themselves are clearly very good. They were very unlucky to not knock Madrid out and you don't do that unless you have players of a certain quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Looks a thrilling advertisement for the SPL tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ferguson is unique in many aspects, but his ability to adapt and react to anything thrown at him is the most remarkable thing. Dalglish and Blackburn, Keegan with us, Arsene and Arsenal, Mourinho and Chelsea, Rafa and Liverpool and now Mancini and City. I don't think he adapts or reacts to anything in particular, he just knows how to transition teams between generation to generation better than anybody. Most of those teams had the better of Man U for a spell, but then they always rebuilt while their contenders failed to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ferguson is unique in many aspects, but his ability to adapt and react to anything thrown at him is the most remarkable thing. Dalglish and Blackburn, Keegan with us, Arsene and Arsenal, Mourinho and Chelsea, Rafa and Liverpool and now Mancini and City. I don't think he adapts or reacts to anything in particular, he just knows how to transition teams between generation to generation better than anybody. Most of those teams had the better of Man U for a spell, but then they always rebuilt while their contenders failed to. That's what I meant to say. He rebuilds to conquer them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ferguson is unique in many aspects, but his ability to adapt and react to anything thrown at him is the most remarkable thing. Dalglish and Blackburn, Keegan with us, Arsene and Arsenal, Mourinho and Chelsea, Rafa and Liverpool and now Mancini and City. I don't think he adapts or reacts to anything in particular, he just knows how to transition teams between generation to generation better than anybody. Most of those teams had the better of Man U for a spell, but then they always rebuilt while their contenders failed to. True. To have been going for as long as he has and to have maintained that high standard is massively impressive. All players buy into his ethos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 As fantastic as Ferguson is i really do get the feeling his team is underrated in general. Carrick and Cleverly are very good, anyone who says other wise is blinded by hatred of the club same goes for Rafeal, Evans, Welbeck etc etc Of course Rooney and RVP are very good, they are just not flashy but the players themselves are clearly very good. They were very unlucky to not knock Madrid out and you don't do that unless you have players of a certain quality. I do think some of those players are a little underrated but I also look at the squad and despite having a few top class players it still doesn't look that amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I don't think they were unlucky against Madrid like. For all Ferguson continually proves himself to be one of the best in the history of the sport, he was ruthlessly out-managed that night at Old Trafford. Mourinho exploited his foibles perfectly and Madrid were deserved winners, in spite of the contentious red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Mourinho and Dalglish had the better of Sir Alex until they got bored and moved on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 As fantastic as Ferguson is i really do get the feeling his team is underrated in general. Carrick and Cleverly are very good, anyone who says other wise is blinded by hatred of the club same goes for Rafeal, Evans, Welbeck etc etc Of course Rooney and RVP are very good, they are just not flashy but the players themselves are clearly very good. They were very unlucky to not knock Madrid out and you don't do that unless you have players of a certain quality. I do think some of those players are a little underrated but I also look at the squad and despite having a few top class players it still doesn't look that amazing Looks can be deceiving I do think there's a few areas they need to look at before they win another CL but mainly i do see it as a very strong squad which is very balanced with quality players who each know their roles to a tee and pull them off to perfection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Laughed real hard at that Suarez statement with the picture of him feasting on Ivanovic on the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ferguson is unique in many aspects, but his ability to adapt and react to anything thrown at him is the most remarkable thing. Dalglish and Blackburn, Keegan with us, Arsene and Arsenal, Mourinho and Chelsea, Rafa and Liverpool and now Mancini and City. I don't think he adapts or reacts to anything in particular, he just knows how to transition teams between generation to generation better than anybody. Most of those teams had the better of Man U for a spell, but then they always rebuilt while their contenders failed to. That's what I meant to say. He rebuilds to conquer them. Aye. It never really needs a 'rebuild' though, because he's always rebuilding without you really realising it. Transitions between his sides are so smooth. I think the RvP signing is actually something he doesn't do that often, going out and buying an old-ish established top player as a reaction to losing the title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Mourinho and Dalglish had the better of Sir Alex until they got bored and moved on. Moved on to finishing below him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Ferguson is unique in many aspects, but his ability to adapt and react to anything thrown at him is the most remarkable thing. Dalglish and Blackburn, Keegan with us, Arsene and Arsenal, Mourinho and Chelsea, Rafa and Liverpool and now Mancini and City. I don't think he adapts or reacts to anything in particular, he just knows how to transition teams between generation to generation better than anybody. Most of those teams had the better of Man U for a spell, but then they always rebuilt while their contenders failed to. That's what I meant to say. He rebuilds to conquer them. Aye. It never really needs a 'rebuild' though, because he's always rebuilding without you really realising it. Transitions between his sides are so smooth. I think the RvP signing is actually something he doesn't do that often, going out and buying an old-ish established top player as a reaction to losing the title. Wouldn't have done it if it wasn't City IMO. He's a bitter old so and so more than anything, he also values the PL over everything unlike other managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 are they considering bringing the liverppol game kick off forward to 2-30 for suarez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Aston Villa seem to have endless supply of players I've never heard from I assume abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I don't think they were unlucky against Madrid like. For all Ferguson continually proves himself to be one of the best in the history of the sport, he was ruthlessly out-managed that night at Old Trafford. Mourinho exploited his foibles perfectly and Madrid were deserved winners, in spite of the contentious red. Mourinho and Madrid's players admitted it themselves, red card or not they were comfortable and they were going through almost certainly. They didn't come close to being under pressure until the red card. Not sure how he was ruthlessly out managed either tbh, they were beaten by a team who took advantage of an extra man but before that didn't look like doing anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I don't think they were unlucky against Madrid like. For all Ferguson continually proves himself to be one of the best in the history of the sport, he was ruthlessly out-managed that night at Old Trafford. Mourinho exploited his foibles perfectly and Madrid were deserved winners, in spite of the contentious red. Mourinho and Madrid's players admitted it themselves, red card or not they were comfortable and they were going through almost certainly. They didn't come close to being under pressure until the red card. Not sure how he was ruthlessly out managed either tbh, they were beaten by a team who took advantage of an extra man but before that didn't look like doing anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 That why you always have players on the post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I don't think they were unlucky against Madrid like. For all Ferguson continually proves himself to be one of the best in the history of the sport, he was ruthlessly out-managed that night at Old Trafford. Mourinho exploited his foibles perfectly and Madrid were deserved winners, in spite of the contentious red. Mourinho and Madrid's players admitted it themselves, red card or not they were comfortable and they were going through almost certainly. They didn't come close to being under pressure until the red card. Not sure how he was ruthlessly out managed either tbh, they were beaten by a team who took advantage of an extra man but before that didn't look like doing anything. The respective decisions from either manager after the red card saw the game won. Sure, it's a luxury having Modric on the bench, but Mourinho was absolutely cut-throat in the way he exploited the advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 How are Man U doing so well without a tackle in the middle of the park? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Mourinho and Dalglish had the better of Sir Alex until they got bored and moved on. Moved on to finishing below him? Alex won his first title with Man Utd after Dalglish resigned. Did he win the battle of supremacy over Dalglish's Blackburn? Again, no. Dalglish left again. Did Alex really best Mourinho - who waltzed in and won two titles on the trot - or did Mourinho just get sick of Abramovich's meddling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 How are Man U doing so well without a tackle in the middle of the park? They retain the ball and constantly attack... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 How are Man U doing so well without a tackle in the middle of the park? They retain the ball and constantly attack... they press the player with the ball, make him hurry his release, rather than fly in giving free kicks away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 How are Man U doing so well without a tackle in the middle of the park? They retain the ball and constantly attack... they press the player with the ball, make him hurry his release, rather than fly in giving free kicks away? Nah you're both wrong. They want it more. They just want it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 How are Man U doing so well without a tackle in the middle of the park? They retain the ball and constantly attack... Witchcraft!!!1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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