BottledDog Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do we think the club has done anything wrong if we don't get him though? Yes. For either failing to be able to stump up financially, or failing to get us into a position where we're an attractive proposition for him as a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I was really thinking specifically of this deal, rather than the failure of not making us regular CL finishers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do we think the club has done anything wrong if we don't get him though? Isn't it just a case of better options being available for him? Why would that be important? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do we think the club has done anything wrong if we don't get him though? Isn't it just a case of better options being available for him? Why would that be important? Because people will complain that we should have got him. If they don't, fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do we think the club has done anything wrong if we don't get him though? Isn't it just a case of better options being available for him? That's the sort of thing that can only be answered in hindsight, imo. / If he goes somewhere for either A: a ridiculous fee, B: a ridiculous wage-packet, C: both - I would say the club are not only blameless, but probably sensible. / If he were to sign for someone similar/worse in stature to us - for a price that could be deemed reasonable - you would have to say we fucked up. Especially if he is a primary target. Remy going to QPR would be an example of the top paragraph, Ince going to Cardiff (if that happens) would be an example of the bottom one. For a start-off, if it's Ince's fee were grumbling over, it would've been incredibly naive of us to expect a 'bargain' - given that £8m is simply the going rate for that sort of footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do we think the club has done anything wrong if we don't get him though? Isn't it just a case of better options being available for him? That's the sort of thing that can only be answered in hindsight, imo. / If he goes somewhere for either A: a ridiculous fee, B: a ridiculous wage-packet, C: both - I would say the club are not only blameless, but probably sensible. / If he were to sign for someone similar/worse in stature to us - for a price that could be deemed reasonable - you would have to say we fucked up. Especially if he is a primary target. Remy going to QPR would be an example of the top paragraph, Ince going to Cardiff (if that happens) would be an example of the bottom one. For a start-off, if it's Ince's fee were grumbling over, it would've been incredibly naive of us given that it's simply is the going rate for promising English players. Oh yeah, I agree with that, I was assuming he was going to Dortmund. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I find myself developing a deep hatred for this guy already. Think his agents are taking the piss, personally. I'm not sure clubs that big will really be after him. He's relatively only coming to the fore just now. They're basically keeping us hanging to get more out of us, before screwing us over at the last minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do we think the club has done anything wrong if we don't get him though? Isn't it just a case of better options being available for him? That's the sort of thing that can only be answered in hindsight, imo. / If he goes somewhere for either A: a ridiculous fee, B: a ridiculous wage-packet, C: both - I would say the club are not only blameless, but probably sensible. / If he were to sign for someone similar/worse in stature to us - for a price that could be deemed reasonable - you would have to say we fucked up. Especially if he is a primary target. Remy going to QPR would be an example of the top paragraph, Ince going to Cardiff (if that happens) would be an example of the bottom one. For a start-off, if it's Ince's fee were grumbling over, it would've been incredibly naive of us given that it's simply is the going rate for promising English players. Oh yeah, I agree with that, I was assuming he was going to Dortmund. Must confess that I haven't kept up to date with this saga in the slighest (nor any others, really, since Kinnear's arrival) - I just wanted to make a general point in response to your post. I didn't know he was allegedly off to Dortmund. You couldn't really blame the player or the club if he ended up there. Putting aside the megabucks of the Premier League, Germany's got to be the most attractive place to go and play your football these days. Never mind Dortmund in-particular, who are just ridiculously likeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do we think the club has done anything wrong if we don't get him though? Isn't it just a case of better options being available for him? That's the sort of thing that can only be answered in hindsight, imo. / If he goes somewhere for either A: a ridiculous fee, B: a ridiculous wage-packet, C: both - I would say the club are not only blameless, but probably sensible. / If he were to sign for someone similar/worse in stature to us - for a price that could be deemed reasonable - you would have to say we fucked up. Especially if he is a primary target. Remy going to QPR would be an example of the top paragraph, Ince going to Cardiff (if that happens) would be an example of the bottom one. For a start-off, if it's Ince's fee were grumbling over, it would've been incredibly naive of us given that it's simply is the going rate for promising English players. Oh yeah, I agree with that, I was assuming he was going to Dortmund. Must confess that I haven't kept up to date with this saga in the slighest (nor any others, really, since Kinnear's arrival) - I just wanted to make a general point in response to your post. I didn't know he was allegedly off to Dortmund. You couldn't really blame the player or the club if he ended up there. Putting aside the megabucks of the Premier League, Germany's got to be the most attractive place to go and play your football these days. Never mind Dortmund in-particular, who are just ridiculously likeable. I wasn't trying to defend not getting our targets in general, there are loads of situations where we should/could be making signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do we think the club has done anything wrong if we don't get him though? Isn't it just a case of better options being available for him? Not really, I never really thought we were serious contenders for his signature anyway, going by the interest in him by CL clubs. I would have been shocked if he'd ended up here tbh, one of the reasons I haven't really posted in this thread much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Being more widely reported now. http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/article/72370/newcastle-united-target-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-tipped-for Pierre- Patrick Eggyman . Fucking Craig David. Kinnear's illness is contagious it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 A few on Twitter saying according to ASSE we didn't even submit a bid, was all from the French press. Anyone seen any confirmation? I wouldn't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 A few on Twitter saying according to ASSE we didn't even submit a bid, was all from the French press. Anyone seen any confirmation? Joe's been working on the bid but his searches on YouTube for Abbaman, Abzeebangbang and Agadoodoodoo didn't find any videos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I hope to god we are actually trying to get a good striker in. Just like most of our signings they were all 'undercover'/out the way of the media so i hope it is under wraps and we are negotiating etc, but I've got a feeling with JFK replacing Llambias it won't be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 A few on Twitter saying according to ASSE we didn't even submit a bid, was all from the French press. Anyone seen any confirmation? I wouldn't think so. Why? I'd assume they are going off the word of the club, quotes etc. Helpful answer though Well the entire transfer window is just a load of rumours, contradictory quotes and fabrication. Just not sure what you're expecting anyone to be able to confirm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I hope to god we are actually trying to get a good striker in. Just like most of our signings they were all 'undercover'/out the way of the media so i hope it is under wraps and we are negotiating etc, but I've got a feeling with JFK replacing Llambias it won't be the case. I know what you mean. Kinnear strikes me as someone who couldn't keep a secret if his life depended upon it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 A few on Twitter saying according to ASSE we didn't even submit a bid, was all from the French press. Anyone seen any confirmation? Wait till July, July, July it's all been Julieeeeeeees!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Do we think the club has done anything wrong if we don't get him though? Yes. For either failing to be able to stump up financially, or failing to get us into a position where we're an attractive proposition for him as a player. Tbh we could offer what we want and sell the club as much as we want, but Borussia are simply more attractive. It's if we've got no alternative that's the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 If Newcastle know BD are massively in the hunt, surely it's best to look at other targets rather than try and compete with someone who is on a different scale to you. It's when the likes of Norwich/Swansea/Cardiff start taking very decent players who we could have done with start pissing me off. We are to them what BD are to us. (QPR/Remy being the exception, that was silly money being flung about). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Echoes of last summer, bet we don't even try and find someone else :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Don't know if it's been mentioned but a Bild journo on Twitter states his (PEA's) Dad reckons 'there is not much standing in the way'. EDIT: Here is a quickly hashed up story link - http://sportbild.bild.de/SPORT/bundesliga/vereine/borussia-dortmund/2013/07/pierre-emerick-aubameyang/bvb-will-stuermer-von-st-etienne.html Be nice to sign a player that isn't shortened in to (excusing the blatant hypocrisy ^) an anagram or shortened nickname anyhoo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Aubameyang would have waited anyway, there was no reason for him to come to us hastily and he was very clear that he wanted European football. No point in even pretending like we had a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 On to Plan B then which I hope is not Darren Bent and/or Carlton Cole and a new contract for Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Klopp or Kinnear, Klopp or Kinnear...how to pick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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