Kaizero Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'd prefer a team to win the league that had flair and creativity rather than a counter attacking team with a good defence winning it which would probably be the case a lot of the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If that's the case why don't Chelsea win the cup every single season? The FA Cup isn't taken as seriously and also Chelsea haven't been a boring team for all of the last ten years. Look at how many games between the top teams are won by the counter attacking team that defend well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 It's probably a big clue about how I feel about NUFC and football in general that I'm starting to lean towards the idea that this should absolutely definitely happen like This current situation ain't working for me anymore. For reference, just 3 years ago my view was: Shut up Mike. sifu is killing it recently. Close thread. That was after posting a spoilered photo of Grace Jones so Mike would click it, which as everyone knows is bang out of order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'd prefer a team to win the league that had flair and creativity rather than a counter attacking team with a good defence winning it which would probably be the case a lot of the time Do you actually want to argue a counter point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If that's the case why don't Chelsea win the cup every single season? The FA Cup isn't taken as seriously and also Chelsea haven't been a boring team for all of the last ten years. Look at how many games between the top teams are won by the counter attacking team that defend well Wouldn't actually know off the top of my head but i'm pretty sure City win the league majority of the big games they play, especially at home. There's plenty of reasons to be against this but i don't think the argument that a defensive team possibly winning it would be one of them as i don't believe that there is a particularly advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If that's the case why don't Chelsea win the cup every single season? The FA Cup isn't taken as seriously and also Chelsea haven't been a boring team for all of the last ten years. Look at how many games between the top teams are won by the counter attacking team that defend well Wouldn't actually know off the top of my head but i'm pretty sure City win the league majority of the big games they play, especially at home. There's plenty of reasons to be against this but i don't think the argument that a defensive team possibly winning it would be one of them as i don't believe that there is a particularly advantage. Don't have stats to hand either but look at Liverpool and Man Utd for example. Both boring teams at the moment that find it difficult to beat the weaker teams but will get results against the better teams because of the tactics they employ as has already been shown this season. Man Utd don't deserve to win the league ahead of Arsenal for example just because they beat them in a one off game which could easily happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 We beat Liverpool and Tottenham and drew with Man Utd. Perhaps we'd win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'd prefer a team to win the league that had flair and creativity rather than a counter attacking team with a good defence winning it which would probably be the case a lot of the time Do you actually want to argue a counter point? There's no need. What you're saying is just wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 We beat Liverpool and Tottenham and drew with Man Utd. Perhaps we'd win. Unless all 20 teams are playing off I suspect we might not reach them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'd prefer a team to win the league that had flair and creativity rather than a counter attacking team with a good defence winning it which would probably be the case a lot of the time Do you actually want to argue a counter point? There's no need. What you're saying is just wrong. How is it wrong? Teams that sit back and counter or play a risk free game don't often beat teams that try to create things and control the game? A playoff system benefits teams that don't have the flair to control a game and break teams down but instead defend in numbers and counter against teams that do try to dominate a game and control things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Plenty of reasons why it's a crap idea, the defensive teams winning is definitely not one of them though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 It would just lead to a perfect scenario for cunts like Mourinho, Pardew, Big Sam, Pulis IMO. Sit back, defend with 10 men back, get a set piece, win 1-0 or bring it to penalties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 It would just lead to a perfect scenario for cunts like Mourinho, Pardew, Big Sam, Pulis IMO. Sit back, defend with 10 men back, get a set piece, win 1-0 or bring it to penalties How so? Those managers don't do well in the cups as it is right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 It would just lead to a perfect scenario for cunts like Mourinho, Pardew, Big Sam, Pulis IMO. Sit back, defend with 10 men back, get a set piece, win 1-0 or bring it to penalties How so? Those managers don't do well in the cups as it is right now. They'd only have to play against the big teams in the playoffs, there wouldn't be any need to attack or try to create something such as there would be if they played a smaller team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 It would just lead to a perfect scenario for c***s like Mourinho, Pardew, Big Sam, Pulis IMO. Sit back, defend with 10 men back, get a set piece, win 1-0 or bring it to penalties I feel like this opinion is based largely on Mourinho's success in the CL. Yes, he's negative (and a bit of a dick), but he's also an outstanding manager. Of course, a defensive team can do well and ride their luck (see Greece 2004), but I don't think there's any significant evidence that what you're saying is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 It's one of many tactics that has been used with success in football, but it in no way dominates the landscape of cup competitions, and thus, the point put forward by mr triggs, is shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I just wish that German team won the last WC wouldn't have been so defensive. Boring cunts only scored 7 in the semi final, not even double figures man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I just wish that German team won the last WC wouldn't have been so defensive. Boring cunts only scored 7 in the semi final, not even double figures man. Well done on missing the point spectacularly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 It would just lead to a perfect scenario for cunts like Mourinho, Pardew, Big Sam, Pulis IMO. Sit back, defend with 10 men back, get a set piece, win 1-0 or bring it to penalties How so? Those managers don't do well in the cups as it is right now. They'd only have to play against the big teams in the playoffs, there wouldn't be any need to attack or try to create something such as there would be if they played a smaller team What about in the CL or any competition for that matter? When Barca, Bayern or Real play a lesser team who defends and plays that style, they usually win. The best team always wins no matter what. That's just how it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I just wish that German team won the last WC wouldn't have been so defensive. Boring cunts only scored 7 in the semi final, not even double figures man. Well done on missing the point spectacularly Oh, don't worry, I get our point. I'm just making fun of it because it's spectacularly unfounded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 http://i.imgur.com/gGwDpKE.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Basically what I'm trying to say is that some teams are better suited to playing against better sides where they can sit back and counter rather than playing against smaller teams where they have to create. I think that this system would benefit those teams rather than teams that play good football and don't play a boring risk free style Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I just wish that German team won the last WC wouldn't have been so defensive. Boring cunts only scored 7 in the semi final, not even double figures man. No reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'd prefer a team to win the league that had flair and creativity rather than a counter attacking team with a good defence winning it which would probably be the case a lot of the time Do you actually want to argue a counter point? There's no need. What you're saying is just wrong. So far we're 2-0 triggs here mind. I didn't even necessarily agree with him in the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 There is a distinct possibility that certain sides would attempt to use those tactics, but there is no evidence to say that it's by any means a flawless tactic, and thus I believe your concerns to be unfounded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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