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1 minute ago, andycap said:

But but they wanted to be still in the league aswell as the super league. Greedy bastards. 

They would have played B teams or at least weakened teams in the Premier League. Ultimately they would have opted out of the League Cup and FA Cup, and would have eventually asked for a closed Premier League.

 

I love how our clubs owners are the ones who are said to be a threat to football when they literally tried to both steal football in England through project big picture, and then form the ESL within a few months of each other.

Truth be told, they should have all been thrown out there and then.

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we need some way to idk enable "mobility" (not to bring class-politics terms in but it fits i guess(?) :lol: while maintaining elite levels. What kills the league won't be a few giants it’s when no other club can dream. FFP changes, playoffs, whatever ... none of this precludes the growth of "the product" financially. 

 

 

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I just think us, Villa, Forest (and whoever else wakes up to the stark reality of the Premier League and recognises that the dream they have of one day being taken over by a wealthy owner and setting out to win the league is done) need to get motivated, mobilise and challenge. We might as well, nothing to lose.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Mole said:

What about the Play-In :smugdog:

 

:lol: I'm glad we're trying new shit to keep things from getting stagnant. That's how leagues that attempt to be competitive should be.

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1 minute ago, Infinitely Content said:

I just think us, Villa, Forest (and whoever else wakes up to the stark reality of the Premier League and recognises that the dream they have of one day being taken over by a wealthy owner and setting out to win the league is done) need to get motivated, mobilise and challenge. We might as well, nothing to lose.

 

 

 

 

The gaps between the six, us and the rest are so insane that it's impossible to imagine a season where one of the six aren't champions and the promoted teams go back down. The league is no longer competitive.

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10 minutes ago, thomas said:

we need some way to idk enable "mobility" (not to bring class-politics terms in but it fits i guess(?) :lol: while maintaining elite levels. What kills the league won't be a few giants it’s when no other club can dream. FFP changes, playoffs, whatever ... none of this precludes the growth of "the product" financially. 

 

 

 

A rolling universal spend limit that rolls over or is increased by player sales perhaps. Anything's better than an SPL just with double the elite and double the farm clubs.

Its not like 4th-8th is bad. Its just knowing that's your limit and knowing on top of that its only because of rules deliberately designed  to make sure that's your limit.

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16 minutes ago, Stifler said:

They would have played B teams or at least weakened teams in the Premier League. Ultimately they would have opted out of the League Cup and FA Cup, and would have eventually asked for a closed Premier League.

 

I love how our clubs owners are the ones who are said to be a threat to football when they literally tried to both steal football in England through project big picture, and then form the ESL within a few months of each other.

Truth be told, they should have all been thrown out there and then.

And then were allowed to decide their own punishment.

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10 minutes ago, Mike said:

 

The gaps between the six, us and the rest are so insane that it's impossible to imagine a season where one of the six aren't champions and the promoted teams go back down. The league is no longer competitive.


It's fucked Mike, we have to be close to perfect over a campaign and half kill our manager just to be in the conversation, only to then be knee-capped at a time when our achievements should unlock doors. Whilst the big six face no penalty at all for being absolutely shit at football.

I don't think people outside of the Newcastle fanbase recognise the feat Eddie Howe has been achieving since he joined. Fuck Slot and the likes, they can't hold a candle to Eddie.

 

 

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It's fucked Mike, we have to be close to perfect over a campaign and half kill our manager just to be in the conversation only to then be knee-capped at a time when our achievements should unlock doors. Whilst the big six face no penalty at all for being absolutely shit at football.

I don't think people outside of the Newcastle fanbase recognise the feat Eddie Howe has been achieving since he joined. Fuck Slot and the likes, they can't hold a candle to Eddie.

 

I am unreasonably fond of Eddie. Unreasonably fond. I may make a Kim Jong Un wall and hoy up a picture of him and Mad Dog at my place.

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14 minutes ago, Mike said:

 

:lol: I'm glad we're trying new shit to keep things from getting stagnant. That's how leagues that attempt to be competitive should be.

:lol: Oh i agree, there's a reason I'm an NBA fan now despite my team being utter fuckwits. I just saw an opportunity to be a cunt and took it.

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Wouldn't it just be the same cartel clubs in the playoffs?

 

So all you'd really get would be another month of breathless Sky Sports 'THIS IS THE BIGGEST THING EVA!!!!' reporting obssessing over and hyping those same teams while also giving them even more money for TV games?

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It’s as simple as having a level playing field of which teams can pay wages and transfers. If you literally can’t afford it based on your owners or your sources or capital you can’t do it. If you can afford it you do it. You also don’t limit the opportunity to better your club based on sponsorship deals. If you get relegated and your clubs owners fuck off then the league needs to help find a suitable owner and not punish the fans but ban the cunts who did it / have recourse against the owners. Simple solutions and allowing anyone with an ounce of ambition to push forward and also requiring teams to be prudent with how they finance or source their capital. 
 

solved.

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10 minutes ago, loki679 said:

Wouldn't it just be the same cartel clubs in the playoffs?

 

So all you'd really get would be another month of breathless Sky Sports 'THIS IS THE BIGGEST THING EVA!!!!' reporting obssessing over and hyping those same teams while also giving them even more money for TV games?

 

Playoffs without drafts and/or salary caps would introduce just enough chaos to keep everyone engaged, but you'd likely still see the same names at the top most of the time. As opposed to all of the fucking time.

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27 minutes ago, Mike said:

If you had to guess, do you think ten different clubs are going to win the EPL the rest of this century?

 

You have to go back 55 years to get to 10 now.

 

Barring significant rule changes I think the answer is quite clearly no (or barely).

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2 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Also fuck playoffs in the ass. Shitty idea. You’re the best after 38 games, that’s it. You don’t need another 3 to prove it.

 

All 38 games aren't created equally and that's a result of the financial inequalities in the game now. 

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