Spudil Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Agree with Ickey. Have always hoped that when we upgrade we go for a more inspiring choice than Jol. Could be comfortably argued that Pardew's achievement last yearwas more impressive than anything Jol has managed in his career. A better long-term option please. Please, go right ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Jol is light-years ahead of Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Jol is light-years ahead of Pardew. I honestly can't believe it's even remotely up for debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 People will be begging for Jol after another 3 years of Pardew...They'll probably be begging for Kim Jong Ill. Another 3 years of Pardew would suggest we've had a pretty decent time of it. So no, I doubt in this fictional future people would fancy Jol in the slightest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkwdavis2001 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Fucking hell, can anyone name a better manager than Pardew who would come to Newcastle at the minute? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 People will be begging for Jol after another 3 years of Pardew...They'll probably be begging for Kim Jong Ill. Another 3 years of Pardew would suggest we've had a pretty decent time of it. So no, I doubt in this fictional future people would fancy Jol in the slightest. The future is always fictional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 This is classic NO stuff. Just about a sniff of surviving relegation and some nutter starts Pardew revisionism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Jol is overrated. He's better at certain aspects of management than Pardew, but he gets a lot of good press because he's such a likeable personality. He's got that Fulham team under-performing, they should be nowhere near the relegation scrap and have been on some woeful runs of form. I'd still take him (and see him as an upgrade) but would ultimately think he's still not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Jol is overrated. He's better at certain aspects of management than Pardew, but he gets a lot of good press because he's such a likeable personality. He's got that Fulham team under-performing, they should be nowhere near the relegation scrap and have been on some woeful runs of form. I'd still take him (and see him as an upgrade) but would ultimately think he's still not good enough. We've got a better first 11 than Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Fucking hell, can anyone name a better manager than Pardew who would come to Newcastle at the minute? The man in my avatar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 This is classic NO stuff. Just about a sniff of surviving relegation and some nutter starts Pardew revisionism. How can you be revisionist about something a thousand days down the line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 He'd be a completely unspectacular, mid table, safe appointment which is a bad thing imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 This is classic NO stuff. Just about a sniff of surviving relegation and some nutter starts Pardew revisionism. How can you be revisionist about something a thousand days down the line? I was referring to the other poster. Or I'd have quoted you. I went to about 11 HSV games the season they finished 5th and got to 2 semi-finals. Jol did a fantastic job in the Bundesliga with limited money. If you wish to appear clueless do continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 If we are to step into the void, then gentlemen, let us reach for the stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The main problem with Fulham is it's a pretty average squad and Ruiz missed about 12 games. Berbatov doesn't really try most games either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 If we are to step into the void, then gentlemen, let us reach for the stars. Of course I'd rather we got Laudrup but I can't stand by and let Jol get tramelled with not a whisker to back it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The main problem with Fulham is it's a pretty average squad and Ruiz missed about 12 games. Berbatov doesn't really try most games either. Almost Pardew-like with getting the excuses in early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 He's got that Fulham team under-performing, they should be nowhere near the relegation scrap and have been on some woeful runs of form. I'd still take him (and see him as an upgrade) but would ultimately think he's still not good enough. Disagree, outside of Berbatov and Ruiz its worse than Norwich. Extremely poor set of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change. Why do you keep saying this with certainty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Pardew won't learn IMO, he never has and i doubt he ever will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 he's toast, imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise. I think that's a bit harsh tbh, we're all double-guessing the owner and my personal view is that he'll not accept this awful season for the sake of not looking stupid because of the long contract the manager's on. The 8 year contract seems just as flaky a justification as an instinct that the owner will be ruthless in this situation. As for no indication for him being sacked, there very often isn't much indication that a manager will be sacked before it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Pardew doesn't even know what he's doing, so how can he learn from it? Genuinely think he just puts the players out there and hopes they pull something out of the bag. If we're struggling to string stuff together he then orders the long direct ball. He's an absolute chump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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