NG32 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 We barely create any chances to miss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 the reaction to this has been rather amusing, did anyone really expect any other outcome should we stay up? He's back at square one, one good season one bad season, next season will tell which was the fluke I don't really understand posts like this. Are you not able to judge for yourself from what you see on the field "which was the fluke"? I don't need a number on a league table to tell me that the way we play is not good enough and will not lead to consistently good results. My main issue through out this anti Pardew thing is less criticizing Pardew or even wanting him out, everyones entitled to their opinion etc etc. But rather how absolutely everything wrong is being put at his door and the players get off scot-free criticism wise. Obviously he's made mistakes but why aren't they taking their share of the blame for some gutless performances? And if you say its just down to Pardews negative tactics, don't they have minds of their own? I had a similar discussion with the wife last night after her new boss told her to adopt a fairly retarded approach where she works. She was furious about it. I told her to do what he says. If you do what the boss says and it doesn't work, it's his fault. If you do things your way and they don't work, you'll get bollocked. As an employee, which players are, that's the only way to behave and survive in a workplace - Do what the boss says. That way it's his fault when it goes tits up. Good advice. And I'm sure Pardew is telling the players to miss the majority of chances created and the officials to chalk off the rest even when they're perfectly good. What chances are they exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'll just watch and moan on here until Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 We barely create any chances to miss Yep. Horrendous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 We barely create any chances to miss Yes we do. For example. We had twice as many chances at Sunderland and an equalizer ruled out that was perfectly fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Good advice. And I'm sure Pardew is telling the players to miss the majority of chances created and the officials to chalk off the rest even when they're perfectly good. A) What chances are you talking about exactly? B) Where's this extensive list (compared to other teams) of incorrectly disallowed goals that have cost us points? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 We barely create any chances to miss Yes we do. For example. We had twice as many chances at Sunderland and an equalizer ruled out that was perfectly fine. You constituting all shots as a "chance" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Happy Face is adamant to keep this weird argument going, like. Fervently defending a manager who he concedes is a "no-mark" purely because he doesn't like Mike Ashley. It's mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 You have to keep perspective. Ridiculous to suggest we create no chances. Earlier in the thread I posted a compilation of .com waffle about the games we've performed quite well in over the past 4 months. Seems a majority of posters want to wallow in negativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 You have to keep perspective. Ridiculous to suggest we create no chances. Earlier in the thread I posted a compilation of .com waffle about the games we've performed quite well in over the past 4 months. Seems a majority of posters want to wallow in negativity. We create no where as many as we should though, that's undeniable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No, you posted a few segments that showed we had performed well in a half or so. How many times have we sustained a performance for a full 90 minutes? You could count it on 1 hand this season. And your the most negative bloke here ffs, your outright claiming that Pardew is the best Ashley will provide so we should just suck it up and accept it. People want Pardew gone because they believe this club can achieve far more without this berk holding us back, it's the opposite of negativity, it's aspiring for better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 the reaction to this has been rather amusing, did anyone really expect any other outcome should we stay up? He's back at square one, one good season one bad season, next season will tell which was the fluke I don't really understand posts like this. Are you not able to judge for yourself from what you see on the field "which was the fluke"? I don't need a number on a league table to tell me that the way we play is not good enough and will not lead to consistently good results. My main issue through out this anti Pardew thing is less criticizing Pardew or even wanting him out, everyones entitled to their opinion etc etc. But rather how absolutely everything wrong is being put at his door and the players get off scot-free criticism wise. Obviously he's made mistakes but why aren't they taking their share of the blame for some gutless performances? And if you say its just down to Pardews negative tactics, don't they have minds of their own? So, for example, if Pardew is unable to coach the defence into a unit, who all know where the others are, when to push out, when to fill in etc... what, they should do it in their spare time down the park? If they don't practice passing in triangles in training you expect them to do it in their back garden, against their son and the dog. Can't believe what I'm reading. Minds of their own. They're up against the tactics of Sir Alex Ferguson and they should all be doing their own thing, on the hop. Reminds me of that game we used to play, 'knockout' where everyone's trying to score in the same end, twenty people running after the same ball and trying to run past everyone or shoot from anywhere. If one player underforms while everyone else is playing, fair enough. An entire squad of thirty-odd players?! What's your solution then? Sell them all presumably? ther has been gutless surrenders that can never be just down to Pardew, the Liverpool match is case in point why the hell did they just give up after the third goal, I am not saying its all down to the players, Pardews made plenty of mistakes himself but to pin all our woes this season on Pardew is not something I agree with, its never that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No, you posted a few segments that showed we had performed well in a half or so. How many times have we sustained a performance for a full 90 minutes? You could count it on 1 hand this season. And your the most negative bloke here ffs, your outright claiming that Pardew is the best Ashley will provide so we should just suck it up and accept it. People want Pardew gone because they believe this club can achieve far more without this berk holding us back, it's the opposite of negativity, it's aspiring for better. If your aim is to dominate games for 90 minutes you're living in cloud cuckoo land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No, you posted a few segments that showed we had performed well in a half or so. How many times have we sustained a performance for a full 90 minutes? You could count it on 1 hand this season. And your the most negative bloke here ffs, your outright claiming that Pardew is the best Ashley will provide so we should just suck it up and accept it. People want Pardew gone because they believe this club can achieve far more without this berk holding us back, it's the opposite of negativity, it's aspiring for better. If your aim is to dominate games for 90 minutes you're living in cloud cuckoo land. Aye, we should definitely only aim to dominate the game for a maximum of 37 minutes. Anything more is lunacy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 My aim is to compete for 90 minutes and continue to force the issue. Dominating the odd game would be nice though, aye. You know, like other teams do (Nowrich yesterday for example). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No, you posted a few segments that showed we had performed well in a half or so. How many times have we sustained a performance for a full 90 minutes? You could count it on 1 hand this season. And your the most negative bloke here ffs, your outright claiming that Pardew is the best Ashley will provide so we should just suck it up and accept it. People want Pardew gone because they believe this club can achieve far more without this berk holding us back, it's the opposite of negativity, it's aspiring for better. If your aim is to dominate games for 90 minutes you're living in cloud cuckoo land. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Rare for teams to dominate for 90 minutes, but it's also extremely rare to see teams completely alter their stance after half time, which we have persistently done. Patterns shift in games all the time but we make it so easy for the opposition. It's costing us points on a regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 You have to keep perspective. Ridiculous to suggest we create no chances. Earlier in the thread I posted a compilation of .com waffle about the games we've performed quite well in over the past 4 months. Seems a majority of posters want to wallow in negativity. Which included games in which we definitely did not perform well - like Stoke and Wigan. But aye, whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 We've been dominated more times on our own pitch within the last month than we've done all year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No, you posted a few segments that showed we had performed well in a half or so. How many times have we sustained a performance for a full 90 minutes? You could count it on 1 hand this season. And your the most negative bloke here ffs, your outright claiming that Pardew is the best Ashley will provide so we should just suck it up and accept it. People want Pardew gone because they believe this club can achieve far more without this berk holding us back, it's the opposite of negativity, it's aspiring for better. If your aim is to dominate games for 90 minutes you're living in cloud cuckoo land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 We've been dominated more times on our own pitch within the last month than we've done all year Even in the worst domination, suffered at the hands of Liverpool, we created opportunities. Perch missed a free header from 5 yards that would put us back in the running. Pardew can't put chances like that away for the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Meh, if Pardew is still in charge at the beginning of next season, I'm sure I'll find it in my heart to give him a clean slate. Whey, a reasonably clean slate. A grubby slate. Hopefully, with a whole pre-season with the French noobs and some decent additions, even Alan "THE WHITE TERRY CONNOR" Pardew can have us performing closer to 2011/12 than 2012/13. If I had the same unwavering doubt as others that another Ashley appointment would have an immediate positive effect, perhaps I'd be joining KI's march on SJP's ramparts like, but currently that is not the case. Very meh, but won't spend my summer in a state of constant fury if he clings on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 :lol: we lost six fucking nil man, no team in world football scores every chance that they get so merely saying that we missed a chance doesn't mean anything, when we're missing sitter upon sitter we can feel hard done by. "Hew man we created a chance in that six nil defeat you radgie, point proven, winner" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 If they don't sack him then we need a major revamp of our coaches/physios etc. I get the impression we cost cut in a lot of areas and we probably have less personal than we should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 We've been dominated more times on our own pitch within the last month than we've done all year Even in the worst domination, suffered at the hands of Liverpool, we created opportunities. Perch missed a free header from 5 yards that would put us back in the running. Pardew can't put chances like that away for the players. Maybe don't play 3/4 defensive midfielders in the same game (at home!) then you wouldn't get James fucking Perch being the most advanced player missing easy chances than an attacking player would most likely bury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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