Flip Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I still don't get what HF is on about. He's saying the stats show that Pards isn't as bad as we make out he is. At the same time he does also say it stats are used to compromise your own ideas. In the end anyone who has seen us play this season know we've been absolute garbage for 80% of the season. Kind of wish this whole forum could just be shut down until at least our first summer signing/sale. The same regurgitated tripe every day, but it seems I'm addicted to regurgitated tripe. Think its like me mam's addiction to Casualty. She must kna in her heart of hearts that its going to be the same rubbish as last week and Charlie still won't find the love he craves, but she tunes in. We need a big new storyline. In short, Dave is Charlie off of Casualty. That post is crazy, are you forced to come on here? It's Foluwashola man, what'd you expect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Not sure DCI Mick and the rest of the patter police even read that post. I'm out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I still don't get what HF is on about. He's saying the stats show that Pards isn't as bad as we make out he is. But the football does.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Has anyone from Toontastic complimented Chez yet? I've got one written but I didn't want to be double counting. Yourself, Chez and HF were always quality posters here. Wish you'd all come here more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I'm still baffled by that comment from Pardew about getting Tiote OUT of the habit of just winning it and giving it. He seems to have been worse and worse since then. It's all he should be doing as far as I'm concerned. Interesting to know if he still believes that, it was ages ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Has anyone from Toontastic complimented Chez yet? I've got one written but I didn't want to be double counting. Yourself, Chez and HF were always quality posters here. Wish you'd all come here more often. Pleased to see y'all knocking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Not sure DCI Mick and the rest of the patter police even read that post. I'm out. Please stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Has anyone from Toontastic complimented Chez yet? I've got one written but I didn't want to be double counting. Yourself, Chez and HF were always quality posters here. Wish you'd all come here more often. Whoa, a tripler? Who are you on Toontastic then? Btw Wullie and Dave (to a lesser extent). You've become very cynical blokes. You used to be full of life (Wullie to a lesser extent ). The Internet has aged you both terribly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Has anyone from Toontastic complimented Chez yet? I've got one written but I didn't want to be double counting. Yourself, Chez and HF were always quality posters here. Wish you'd all come here more often. Whoa, a tripler? Who are you on Toontastic then? Btw Wullie and Dave (to a lesser extent). You've become very cynical blokes. You used to be full of life (Wullie to a lesser extent ). The Internet has aged you both terribly. I'm not, but I used to be billytray on here. Probably time to return to my former name come to think of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Ah right aye, I remember that name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Ah right aye, I remember that name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Ah right aye, I remember that name. Aye, that was my thought too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I've got an unbelievable memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 This thread has gone ever so slightly off topic and has improved tenfold as a result.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I still don't get what HF is on about. He's saying the stats show that Pards isn't as bad as we make out he is. I'm saying we can surely dig a little deeper than JUST that "He's shit" Pardew is still pummelled for favouring hoof ball. Despite us generally not actually resorting to it until late on in games. I say that's the poorer players last line of defence. Not Pardews "vision". Even if you think we have played hoofball all game every game, I think that's become less valid as the season has worn on. We are MUCH less reliant upon it. But complaints about it have kept rising because lazy people criticise our perceived problems rather than the actual ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Yeah alright, and i'm married to Wonder Woman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Yeah alright, and i'm married to Wonder Woman. Wow, I thought you were yet to propose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Yeah alright, and i'm married to Wonder Woman. Wow, I thought you were yet to propose? Bought her a car today. Anyway stop reminding me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Yeah alright, and i'm married to Wonder Woman. It's a fact. We've relied less on long balls as the season has gone on. Whether Pardew has the ability to have his team pass it and move around our opponents effectively is another matter. But those that don't like hoofball should give credit the change in approach, rather than blindly repeat that we're still as bad as we were in September for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I still don't get what HF is on about. He's saying the stats show that Pards isn't as bad as we make out he is. I'm saying we can surely dig a little deeper than JUST that "He's s***" Pardew is still pummelled for favouring hoof ball. Despite us generally not actually resorting to it until late on in games. I say that's the poorer players last line of defence. Not Pardews "vision". Even if you think we have played hoofball all game every game, I think that's become less valid as the season has worn on. We are MUCH less reliant upon it. But complaints about it have kept rising because lazy people criticise our perceived problems rather than the actual ones. People have said he's shit but they have backed up such statements as to why he's shit. They have dug deeper, lots and lots of times. Give this thread and numerous others a full read. You throwing in stats and more stats is merely you trying to kid yourself, nothing more. For what reason only you know given you have already said he's fucking shit anyway, of course in more words than that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Not sure DCI Mick and the rest of the patter police even read that post. I'm out. Sorry, you're right as I was on my way out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Yeah alright, and i'm married to Wonder Woman. It's a fact. We've relied less on long balls as the season has gone on. Whether Pardew has the ability to have his team pass it and move around our opponents effectively is another matter. But those that don't like hoofball should give credit the change in approach, rather than blindly repeat that we're still as bad as we were in September for it. It's not really the long balls anyway, it's the chronic lack of movement and inter play. We are lack any cohesion at all. You can quote all the stats you like, i judge the games with my eyes, and we are a poor team, who concede for fun, don't score enough goals. And have been damn lucky to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I'm saying we can surely dig a little deeper than JUST that "He's s***" Pardew is still pummelled for favouring hoof ball. Despite us generally not actually resorting to it until late on in games. I say that's the poorer players last line of defence. Not Pardews "vision". Even if you think we have played hoofball all game every game, I think that's become less valid as the season has worn on. We are MUCH less reliant upon it. But complaints about it have kept rising because lazy people criticise our perceived problems rather than the actual ones. He is shite though, my eyes tell me the football we play is shite and that IS down to the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 It's a fact. We've relied less on long balls as the season has gone on. Whether Pardew has the ability to have his team pass it and move around our opponents effectively is another matter. But those that don't like hoofball should give credit the change in approach, rather than blindly repeat that we're still as bad as we were in September for it. There hasn't been a huge shift in approach and if anything we actually played less long ball football leading up to January than we did after January. Against Man Utd and Arsenal for example, for long spells our football was good, very good. That short shift in approach mainly coincided with the Jan arrivals anyway, but once the dust had settled so to speak, the long ball soon reappeared to the point where we used it a lot, even in Europe. Our football hasn't really improved at all, if anything its worse given the higher calibre of players/more options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I still don't get what HF is on about. He's saying the stats show that Pards isn't as bad as we make out he is. I'm saying we can surely dig a little deeper than JUST that "He's shit" Pardew is still pummelled for favouring hoof ball. Despite us generally not actually resorting to it until late on in games. I say that's the poorer players last line of defence. Not Pardews "vision". Even if you think we have played hoofball all game every game, I think that's become less valid as the season has worn on. We are MUCH less reliant upon it. But complaints about it have kept rising because lazy people criticise our perceived problems rather than the actual ones. History shows us that stats supporting a largely minority view are routinely disregarded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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