Guest palnese Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Man Utd - Swansea. Bottom one is Arsenal - Man Utd? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Top - Man U v Swansea Bottom - Arsenal v Man U Two teams recognised with good movement playing some weird formations, 4 Arsenal players holding hands. Man U playing a variant of the Brazilian 4-2-2-2. Average positions don't tell much tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 PL table from Feb '13 onwards: http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/771194304.jpg?1368786369 Shows the importance of that investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Average positions are useless for the majority as players switch positions throughout a match, especially when substitutions are made. So players aren't "sitting on each other", they've just spent 45 minutes each around about the same area, more than likely at different times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 NESFTD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 PL table from Feb '13 onwards: http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/771194304.jpg?1368786369 It's bizarre reading that and comparing it to the feeling that we were dropping like a stone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Having a good laugh at some of these heatmaps btw.. Look at Man U's shape in their game against us. Clearly defined shape, every player distinct. Only the two strikers are touching. Us? The defence have a shape, f*** knows who's doing what otherwise.... http://i39.tinypic.com/4r97c8.jpg Similar story in the Arsenal game....it's not as bad, but apart from our centre backs, every other player spends so much time in another players position, 8 of them look like 4. http://i42.tinypic.com/2vss00j.jpg Considering how much we work on "shape" thats awful from us The only thing I can take from the Arsenal game is us being ultra defensive and doubling up on their players. Some useful info there Happy Face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 PL table from Feb '13 onwards: http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/771194304.jpg?1368786369 Shows the importance of that investment. Wow, Di Canio has really helped Sunlun propel up the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 PL table from Feb '13 onwards: http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/771194304.jpg?1368786369 Shows the importance of that investment. Wow, Di Canio has really helped Sunlun propel up the table. His 8 points have kept them up tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 True I guess. Still, if you discount the honeymoon effect they haven't obviously improved that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 True I guess. Still, if you discount the honeymoon effect they haven't obviously improved that much. The only boost they got was probably beating us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 How did we manage 10th place after that date, but still manage the joint second-worst GD in the league? I know the answer (2 loses of 0-9), it's just pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 http://i44.tinypic.com/2zhedki.jpg To be fair, Di Canio was appointed March 31st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 PL table from Feb '13 onwards: http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/771194304.jpg?1368786369 It's bizarre reading that and comparing it to the feeling that we were dropping like a stone. The table glosses over the performances and the last gasp winners at home have propelled us up there. Plus the last two home games have really brought home how bad we are and it's easy to forget those scrappy points when we're in free fall performance-wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The table glosses over the performances and the last gasp winners at home have propelled us up there. Plus the last two home games have really brought home how bad we are and it's easy to forget those scrappy points when we're in free fall performance-wise. I'm not saying we're good, but on the other hand you could argue that the manner of the Sunderland and Liverpool defeats made everything seem much worse than it was form-wise. Anyway, thank fuck it's over now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 True I guess. Still, if you discount the honeymoon effect they haven't obviously improved that much. Aye, if you start taking points off of a manager tally his stats probably will look a bit shit like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The table glosses over the performances and the last gasp winners at home have propelled us up there. Plus the last two home games have really brought home how bad we are and it's easy to forget those scrappy points when we're in free fall performance-wise. We're 12-8 down on goals in the last 10 minutes this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The table glosses over the performances and the last gasp winners at home have propelled us up there. Plus the last two home games have really brought home how bad we are and it's easy to forget those scrappy points when we're in free fall performance-wise. I'm not saying we're good, but on the other hand you could argue that the manner of the Sunderland and Liverpool defeats made everything seem much worse than it was form-wise. Anyway, thank fuck it's over now! Regardless of scoreline we still lost 4 in 6 which really isn't out of tune with the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The table glosses over the performances and the last gasp winners at home have propelled us up there. Plus the last two home games have really brought home how bad we are and it's easy to forget those scrappy points when we're in free fall performance-wise. I'm not saying we're good, but on the other hand you could argue that the manner of the Sunderland and Liverpool defeats made everything seem much worse than it was form-wise. Anyway, thank f*** it's over now! I was actually agreeing with you Ian, maybe I wasn't clear Your right, it's the performances that have made it feel so bad, it's the scrappy wins that make it look better than it is. You're also right in saying those two performances have brought extra doom and gloom on us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Regardless of scoreline we still lost 4 in 6 which really isn't out of tune with the rest of the season. It's much worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The table glosses over the performances and the last gasp winners at home have propelled us up there. Plus the last two home games have really brought home how bad we are and it's easy to forget those scrappy points when we're in free fall performance-wise. We're 12-8 down on goals in the last 10 minutes this season. But how many in average per game, our last minute goals are 1 a game I would expect, a la Cisse whereas I would expect a few of ours might be attributed to 2 or 3 as we trail off and get mauled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The table glosses over the performances and the last gasp winners at home have propelled us up there. Plus the last two home games have really brought home how bad we are and it's easy to forget those scrappy points when we're in free fall performance-wise. We're 12-8 down on goals in the last 10 minutes this season. But how many in average per game, our last minute goals are 1 a game I would expect, a la Cisse whereas I would expect a few of ours might be attributed to 2 or 3 as we trail off and get mauled. A lot of them took points off us. 86th minute at the mackems. 81st and 85th minutes at Stoke. 90th minute at Man U 85th minute at Swansea 90th minute at Wigan 8th place if the table didn't "gloss over" those Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Regardless of scoreline we still lost 4 in 6 which really isn't out of tune with the rest of the season. It's much worse. Worse than what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The table glosses over the performances and the last gasp winners at home have propelled us up there. Plus the last two home games have really brought home how bad we are and it's easy to forget those scrappy points when we're in free fall performance-wise. We're 12-8 down on goals in the last 10 minutes this season. But how many in average per game, our last minute goals are 1 a game I would expect, a la Cisse whereas I would expect a few of ours might be attributed to 2 or 3 as we trail off and get mauled. A lot of them took points off us. 86th minute at the mackems. 81st and 85th minutes at Stoke. 90th minute at Man U 85th minute at Swansea 90th minute at Wigan 8th place if the table didn't "gloss over" those HF = slayer of urban myths Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Regardless of scoreline we still lost 4 in 6 which really isn't out of tune with the rest of the season. It's much worse. Worse than what? losing 4 games in 6 is worse than the season average of 18/37. 66% rather than 49% We lost 77% of games between 11/11 and 19/01 though. That was THE worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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