AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Obviously if anything is based on assuming this seasons' performances will continue then we will do absolutely terribly next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Only we could make finishing 5th in the league potentially one of the worst things that's ever happened to us like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Win% is only a general indication and does not take into account trends. If you take Ferguson's win% in his first couple of years at Man U, it wouldn't be as high as when he was winning titles. Pardew on the other hand has gotten worse after an initial good year or two and that thrend has been reflected throughout his whole career. The trends you see is much more representative of a manager's ability over time. Hmmm....gimme a sec ...... Take your time. You probably see things in binary code considering how much you love your numbers. Just make sure they make sense, are relevant and open to scrutiny. Here you are.... http://i44.tinypic.com/jrxt3t.jpg Christ, I'm welling up, that's such a thing of beauty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Oh god arsejuice isn't going to be like my Set Penises thingy is it. You'd hate that, wouldn't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 All these stats are doing is proving how worthless statistics taken in isolation are. We're not f***ing stupid and we have eyes. You can pull stats out of your arse until the cows come home, it doesn't change what i've seen with my own two eyes the last 2 years. Would you sack Pardew if we won our first game of next season and didn't drop out of the top 5 all year....assuming the style of football remains....workmanlike. No. Would you? No. Just that the football was s*** last season and you included that in what you''ve seen over 2 years that suggests he should be sacked. So I wasn't clear. When we were up in 4th I complained that the football was s**** and we would drop like a lead balloon...but the season went on...and on...and on...and we didn't drop. So like most people I had to shut up and accept, it's not pretty, but it worked. I don't see any reason it shouldn't work again next year, if we get in another striker and start converting some of the wealth of opportunities we make. It still won't be pretty though. The Factor of Pardew's Tactics being analyze and being founded out isn't being taken note here. It is a pretty obvious factor that play its part it this season, most teams actually know we like to keep it tight and like to be on the back foot. Sir Alex actually took note that we were unpredictable due to new players , that it had been the reason they lost at Man United. Unless you assume tactical changes would be made to Pardew's teams. I would only assume we would continue to under perform if nothing changes. One big man will not change the bigger picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Only we could make finishing 5th in the league potentially one of the worst things that's ever happened to us like. So true, it's like that 5th place has become a curse for us. Who would have given that 5th place up in hindsight to remove any credibility of keeping him? Most I bet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Win% is only a general indication and does not take into account trends. If you take Ferguson's win% in his first couple of years at Man U, it wouldn't be as high as when he was winning titles. Pardew on the other hand has gotten worse after an initial good year or two and that thrend has been reflected throughout his whole career. The trends you see is much more representative of a manager's ability over time. Hmmm....gimme a sec ...... Take your time. You probably see things in binary code considering how much you love your numbers. Just make sure they make sense, are relevant and open to scrutiny. Here you are.... http://i44.tinypic.com/jrxt3t.jpg Christ, I'm welling up, that's such a thing of beauty. An easier way of doing things would have been to look at his points total from last season compared to his points total from this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Except that a sample of two numbers is pretty small. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 But far more relevant, which is sort of the important factor in any debate I find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 But far more relevant, which is sort of the important factor in any debate I find. Yeah, depends what you're trying to show. TBF, any statistical analysis of so short a time is very difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Clearly displays Pardew's diminishing bouncebackability. There's 3 distinct peaks where he has put a run of results together in response to falling below 40%, but each one has offered a lower return, the first peak saw him hit 80%, the next one just over 70%, the most recent, just 50%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Can somebody ban the use of graphs on here? I'm being graphed to death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 We need other things such as the opposition faced, if we were home or away, key injuries to players etc too like but fair enough. This is a stat that paints Pards in a negative light though so Hans is aal owa it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 This thread. It was bad enough before HF turned up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Can somebody ban the use of graphs on here? I'm being graphed to death. >Graft vs Host joke<. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Can somebody ban the use of graphs on here? I'm being graphed to death. You've taken the lead Mick http://i42.tinypic.com/apfzi8.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 This thread is pure AIDS, straight from the nutsack of a French Canadian flight attendant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 You've taken the lead Mick http://i42.tinypic.com/apfzi8.jpg A Pie Chart, at least it's different. It's nothing personal, I spend far too much of my life working on Excel and Access to have to face it on every page of this thread, I prefer words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Pick the worst graph possible as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Only we could make finishing 5th in the league potentially one of the worst things that's ever happened to us like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I've made a graph http://i.imgur.com/VYHehHM.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Like to see your work for that 3.675 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I've made a graph http://i.imgur.com/VYHehHM.jpg Amazingly accurate and informative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I accept it, unquestioningly. Should submit that to the ONS, B'more. Class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Btw as much as I think the graphs/charts/stats are shite, its good to see HF posting on here and I have to say, he has helped make the debate about Pardew interesting at least even though he's still a cockney cunt fraudster blah blah blah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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