Jayson Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I do wonder partly why people choose to be so miserable like, i understand it feels like some unshakeable reality to many that our manager is shocking but he was here in our good season also. It may be very naive of me but im looking forward to this new season, it may turn out we play really poorly again but ive no idea what good it is to mentally prepare myself for this by expecting & moaning about it months to then weeks before we see it happen. Id much rather feel naively optimistic & have that challenged if and when it actually clearly goes wrong. There are many reasons to believe this season may go better than the last, im sure we can all imagine them. Why not do it, what does negativity achieve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I do wonder partly why people choose to be so miserable like, i understand it feels like some unshakeable reality to many that our manager is shocking but he was here in our good season also. It may be very naive of me but im looking forward to this new season, it may turn out we play really poorly again but ive no idea what good it is to mentally prepare myself for this by expecting & moaning about it months to then weeks before we see it happen. Id much rather feel naively optimistic & have that challenged if and when it actually clearly goes wrong. There are many reasons to believe this season may go better than the last, im sure we can all imagine them. Why not do it, what does negativity achieve? like can it get any worse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I do wonder partly why people choose to be so miserable like, i understand it feels like some unshakeable reality to many that our manager is shocking but he was here in our good season also. It may be very naive of me but im looking forward to this new season, it may turn out we play really poorly again but ive no idea what good it is to mentally prepare myself for this by expecting & moaning about it months to then weeks before we see it happen. Id much rather feel naively optimistic & have that challenged if and when it actually clearly goes wrong. There are , im sure we can all imagine them. Why not do it, what does negativity achieve? "He was here in our good season." The good season was poor for large parts, it was only the last few games where we started to play some decent stuff more regularly. Other than results, the good season wasn't really that good at all. List the "many reasons to believe this season may go better than the last." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's a lot of people wasting a lot of time typing the same stuff over and over now. Just accept he's not very good and wait for him to get sacked like I am. Such a sanctimonious tosspot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I think it's realism more than negativity for the sake of it. Everyone wants to be positive about NUFC but there is little reason to be I don't remember choosing to be negative about anything ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's a lot of people wasting a lot of time typing the same stuff over and over now. Just accept he's not very good and wait for him to get sacked like I am. If we took this stance with everything NUFC, there'd be no point in having the forum "You've all got the same views so shut up" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's a lot of people wasting a lot of time typing the same stuff over and over now. Just accept he's not very good and wait for him to get sacked like I am. Such a sanctimonious tosspot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I do wonder partly why people choose to be so miserable like, i understand it feels like some unshakeable reality to many that our manager is shocking but he was here in our good season also. It may be very naive of me but im looking forward to this new season, it may turn out we play really poorly again but ive no idea what good it is to mentally prepare myself for this by expecting & moaning about it months to then weeks before we see it happen. Id much rather feel naively optimistic & have that challenged if and when it actually clearly goes wrong. There are , im sure we can all imagine them. Why not do it, what does negativity achieve? "He was here in our good season." The good season was poor for large parts, it was only the last few games where we started to play some decent stuff more regularly. Other than results, the good season wasn't really that good at all. List the "many reasons to believe this season may go better than the last." I can answer but im not sure what challenging what im saying achieves for you as i say. Why do you want to prove your negativity before it happens? I can imagine that many of our players are quality, who hopefully will have a stronger desire to prove themselves following last season with a fresh start & a world cup coming up. I think confidence affects a lot & a break will have helped them. I think Pardew has many faults but is a solid defensive coach who didnt deal with the disruptions caused by extra games last season for whatever reason. The only season we experienced without that disruption his preperation lead to us breaking defensive records (As boring as that whole mindset may be to many). I also think that this worked very well for us when we had individual ability going forwards & Remy + hopefully more signings will help that when fit. I think we had many injuries & hope that hiring Faye/this season will help that cause & allow us to keep our best players together for prolonged periods to learn. I like seeing Debuchy going through on goal several times, i like that ive seen several corners where we actually appear dangerous in highlights. I like lots of stuff & ive seen other stuff to moan about. I get to choose which to believe at this point though, as it hasnt happened yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's a lot of people wasting a lot of time typing the same stuff over and over now. Just accept he's not very good and wait for him to get sacked like I am. If we took this stance with everything NUFC, there'd be no point in having the forum "You've all got the same views so shut up" I knew someone would do this and it's as hilarious as I hoped it would be. It's more than people are saying exactly the same thing they've been saying for the last 3+ months but whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's a lot of people wasting a lot of time typing the same stuff over and over now. Just accept he's not very good and wait for him to get sacked like I am. If we took this stance with everything NUFC, there'd be no point in having the forum "You've all got the same views so shut up" I knew someone would do this and it's as hilarious as I hoped it would be. It's more than people are saying exactly the same thing they've been saying for the last 3+ months but whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I hope he gets sacked just so this shit patter will end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I think it's realism more than negativity for the sake of it. Everyone wants to be positive about NUFC but there is little reason to be I don't remember choosing to be negative about anything ever Really? Im sure everyones had conversations involving people picking you up by reminding you of positives you may have been ignoring due to a focus on things going wrong. Obviously people can learn to do that for themselves, changing an outlook etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There's a lot of people wasting a lot of time typing the same stuff over and over now. Just accept he's not very good and wait for him to get sacked like I am. If we took this stance with everything NUFC, there'd be no point in having the forum "You've all got the same views so shut up" I knew someone would do this and it's as hilarious as I hoped it would be. It's more than people are saying exactly the same thing they've been saying for the last 3+ months but whatever. I've barely said anything about his managerial ability for months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I can answer but im not sure what challenging what im saying achieves for you as i say. Why do you want to prove your negativity before it happens? I can imagine that many of our players are quality, who hopefully will have a stronger desire to prove themselves following last season with a fresh start & a world cup coming up. I think confidence affects a lot & a break will have helped them. I think Pardew has many faults but is a solid defensive coach who didnt deal with the disruptions caused by extra games last season for whatever reason. The only season we experienced without that disruption his preperation lead to us breaking defensive records (As boring as that whole mindset may be to many). I also think that this worked very well for us when we had individual ability going forwards & Remy + hopefully more signings will help that when fit. I think we had many injuries & hope that hiring Faye/this season will help that cause & allow us to keep our best players together for prolonged periods to learn. I like seeing Debuchy going through on goal several times, i like that ive seen several corners where we actually appear dangerous in highlights. I like lots of stuff & ive seen other stuff to moan about. I get to choose which to believe at this point though, as it hasnt happened yet. All of that and you could have cut it to us relying on the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yeah if that was the single point id made. Cheer up mick man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yeah if that was the single point id made. Cheer up mick man Sorry, I didn't think that "The only season we experienced without that disruption his preperation lead to us breaking defensive records" was even worth commenting on. We had our best goals against figures for 5 years, 4 seasons but only if you take away our Championship season, brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 For the first part of the season we held the best defensive record in all of England with a defense of Colo, Taylor/williamson, Raylor & Simpson. We ended up with more clean sheets in a premier league season that we've ever managed before with the same list of players. Not worthy of comment atall like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yeah if that was the single point id made. Cheer up mick man Sorry, I didn't think that "The only season we experienced without that disruption his preperation lead to us breaking defensive records" was even worth commenting on. We had our best goals against figures for 5 years, 4 seasons but only if you take away our Championship season, brilliant. Not like Pardew hasn't broken other records last season. That is the problem with being optimistic only, i am not a negative person by nature. However my standards for proof of factual positive improvement is far higher than hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 For the first part of the season we held the best defensive record in all of England with a defense of Colo, Taylor/williamson, Raylor & Simpson. We ended up with more clean sheets in a premier league season that we've ever managed before with the same list of players. Not worthy of comment atall like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias Nearly two season ago, Pardew's past record tells you things go wrong the longer he's in a job. And i go by the results and performances of last season, the most recent are the benchmark and it's been a steady downhill trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 For the first part of the season we held the best defensive record in all of England with a defense of Colo, Taylor/williamson, Raylor & Simpson. We ended up with more clean sheets in a premier league season that we've ever managed before with the same list of players. Not worthy of comment atall like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias Nearly two season ago, Pardew's past record tells you things go wrong the longer he's in a job. And i go by the results and performances of last season, the most recent are the benchmark and it's been a steady downhill trend. Surely we go off pre season then, 1 defeat in 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Many of our decade preserving negative records were broken by him last year. His negative records outweights his 5th place finish and defensive record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 For the first part of the season we held the best defensive record in all of England with a defense of Colo, Taylor/williamson, Raylor & Simpson. We ended up with more clean sheets in a premier league season that we've ever managed before with the same list of players. Not worthy of comment atall like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias That early season run of games was one of the easiest sets of fixtures we could have asked for. The only team I remember us playing who were any good were Arsenal who were having a terrible start to the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 For the first part of the season we held the best defensive record in all of England with a defense of Colo, Taylor/williamson, Raylor & Simpson. We ended up with more clean sheets in a premier league season that we've ever managed before with the same list of players. Not worthy of comment atall like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias Nearly two season ago, Pardew's past record tells you things go wrong the longer he's in a job. And i go by the results and performances of last season, the most recent are the benchmark and it's been a steady downhill trend. Surely we go off pre season then, 1 defeat in 7 Standard of opposition and performances tell you we aren't exactly playing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 For the first part of the season we held the best defensive record in all of England with a defense of Colo, Taylor/williamson, Raylor & Simpson. We ended up with more clean sheets in a premier league season that we've ever managed before with the same list of players. Not worthy of comment atall like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias Nearly two season ago, Pardew's past record tells you things go wrong the longer he's in a job. And i go by the results and performances of last season, the most recent are the benchmark and it's been a steady downhill trend. Surely we go off pre season then, 1 defeat in 7 Standard of opposition and performances tell you we aren't exactly playing well. Dont worry dude, I was just fucking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 For the first part of the season we held the best defensive record in all of England with a defense of Colo, Taylor/williamson, Raylor & Simpson. We ended up with more clean sheets in a premier league season that we've ever managed before with the same list of players. Not worthy of comment atall like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias Nearly two season ago, Pardew's past record tells you things go wrong the longer he's in a job. And i go by the results and performances of last season, the most recent are the benchmark and it's been a steady downhill trend. Surely we go off pre season then, 1 defeat in 7 Standard of opposition and performances tell you we aren't exactly playing well. Dont worry dude, I was just fucking about. I know but i was trying to be serious for a change, it's no good i just can't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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