Guest Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 We were only 5 behind Swansea in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Even replacing the squad players we have lost would be handy That would be a start. I'd like another creative player for when Hatem needs a rest/inj and another forward bare minimum. We could give it a go with that.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Yes in revenue, in debt, in anything you care to use to measure it. We're the 20th richest club in world football and the 6th richest in England in terms of revenue. We are also guaranteed at least 25 million pounds extra tv revenue in the next twelve months which will propel us up that world table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 When you consider that Swansea finished 7th last season then it shows that with a half decent squad you can still have a very good season, but you need a good manager who has a squad which is tailored to his preferred style of play. We have neither. Although we previously finished 5th. Down to luck and last season was bad luck. He's got the tools for a top 8. Let's hope he does it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Yes in revenue, in debt, in anything you care to use to measure it. We're the 20th richest club in world football and the 6th richest in England in terms of revenue. We are also guaranteed at least 25 million pounds extra tv revenue in the next twelve months which will propel us up that world table. Yes, but we have over £100m in debt and up until a couple of years ago were losing £30m+ a year. That's a fact isn't it? So either we need affordable debt sources or Ashley needs to use his own money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Come on fella's it's the exact same argument as yesterday, just in a different thread. You two are never going to agree over it, so maybe just let it go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 When you consider that Swansea finished 7th last season then it shows that with a half decent squad you can still have a very good season, but you need a good manager who has a squad which is tailored to his preferred style of play. We have neither. i'd like the facepalm explained brett, disgrace tbh Facepalm explaination: Basically Swansea have had one good year under Laudrup, finished 7th. We had our good year under Pardew finished 5th. He then went on to fail last season. We don't know how Laudrup will get on this season yet but Pardew has proved as well with a 'half decent squad you can still have a good season' but everyone is in sort of agreement he isn’t a good manager which makes the original point incorrect (you need a good manager), if it is to believed he is in fact poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Yes in revenue, in debt, in anything you care to use to measure it. We're the 20th richest club in world football and the 6th richest in England in terms of revenue. We are also guaranteed at least 25 million pounds extra tv revenue in the next twelve months which will propel us up that world table. Yes, but we have over £100m in debt and up until a couple of years ago were losing £30m+ a year. That's a fact isn't it? So either we need affordable debt sources or Ashley needs to use his own money. Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. You said yesterday it was unacceptable for him to be withdrawing his debt, now you're saying it's fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 We were only 5 behind Swansea in the end. We were 1 trophy behind Swansea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 We were only 5 behind Swansea in the end. We were 1 trophy behind Swansea. and in football terms about 1,000 light years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us. Fat cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? It's his fault why he has the debt in the 1st place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us. Fat cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us. Fat cunt. nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 When you consider that Swansea finished 7th last season then it shows that with a half decent squad you can still have a very good season, but you need a good manager who has a squad which is tailored to his preferred style of play. We have neither. i'd like the facepalm explained brett, disgrace tbh Facepalm explaination: Basically Swansea have had one good year under Laudrup, finished 7th. We had our good year under Pardew finished 5th. He then went on to fail last season. We don't know how Laudrup will get on this season yet but Pardew has proved as well with a 'half decent squad you can still have a good season' but everyone is in sort of agreement he isn’t a good manager which makes the original point incorrect (you need a good manager), if it is to believed he is in fact poor. Only fair you explain your disagreement so we can view both points of opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us. Fat cunt. nonsense No it's not. He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Problem is it effects us and our ability to finally get rid of him. 'Serves him right' just seems a daft thing to say when it's us who suffers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us. Fat cunt. nonsense No it's not. He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books. Whilst this is correct, you cannot expect said idiot to just take the debt on the chin and scratch it off as "his bad". NUFC's shit management made the debt, NUFC will pay off the debt. Not that I think this should affect our transfer spending in any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? It's his own company we're talking about here, not two separate entities. NUFC can't run off with his cash. There's absolutely no way it's acceptable for us to spend £0 in transfer fees so that he can get his money back (does he have a big leccy bill or something?) How much is ok for him to take out in your view then? Just what we would have spent in transfers or can we go ahead and take the lot and bankrupt the club? This attitude amongst our fans of "he's the owner, he can do what he wants" is disgusting tbh. Ronaldo's right about the pathetic specimens we have become. The Yank cunts tried this with Liverpool and were ran out of town, it didn't matter how much money they had, the fans made their position untenable. We just carry right on licking Ashley's ring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us. Fat cunt. nonsense No it's not. He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books. in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss" there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? It's his own company we're talking about here, not two separate entities. NUFC can't run off with his cash. There's absolutely no way it's acceptable for us to spend £0 in transfer fees so that he can get his money back (does he have a big leccy bill or something?) How much is ok for him to take out in your view then? Just what we would have spent in transfers or can we go ahead and take the lot and bankrupt the club? This attitude amongst our fans of "he's the owner, he can do what he wants" is disgusting tbh. Ronaldo's right about the pathetic specimens we have become. The Yank cunts tried this with Liverpool and were ran out of town, it didn't matter how much money they had, the fans made their position untenable. We just carry right on licking Ashley's ring. That's wrong about Liverpool. They were forced to sell the club due to not being able to payback the banks who lent them the money to buy the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? It's his own company we're talking about here, not two separate entities. NUFC can't run off with his cash. There's absolutely no way it's acceptable for us to spend £0 in transfer fees so that he can get his money back (does he have a big leccy bill or something?) How much is ok for him to take out in your view then? Just what we would have spent in transfers or can we go ahead and take the lot and bankrupt the club? This attitude amongst our fans of "he's the owner, he can do what he wants" is disgusting tbh. Ronaldo's right about the pathetic specimens we have become. The Yank cunts tried this with Liverpool and were ran out of town, it didn't matter how much money they had, the fans made their position untenable. We just carry right on licking Ashley's ring. fuck off wullie man, alls i'm saying is noone can expect anyone to just write off 100m in an ideal world he'd be smart and realise success is the way to money but we don't live in an ideal world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us. Fat cunt. nonsense No it's not. He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books. in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss" there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is So when we get £63m+ from the Premier League this season, it's ok for him to take the lot in your view? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like? Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us. Fat cunt. nonsense No it's not. He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books. in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss" there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is So when we get £63m+ from the Premier League this season, it's ok for him to take the lot in your view? I would allow him £2.5m Deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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