thomas Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Because really, what are stats except the collective representation of factual data? I'd much rather hear about emotions and how they relate to objective truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Any man who uses stats as the main crux of his argument cannot be trusted IMO. 9 times out of 10 you'd be right <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=15452"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/tee-hee.gif"></a> Don't belittle me Bimpy, that was comedy gold! I wasn't mate, i liked that comment a lot, made me chuckle. This gif a bit wrong then, sorry that wasn't my intention Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yeah, I think the club feels they get better deals in January, and essentially use the summer as a period to declare initial interest, and then start whittling the price down leading up to January. Just wish they'd come out and admit it. Because although its a financially sound way to conduct business, it is of course detrimental to the club as we're always treading water until January and then playing catch up by which time the first few months have taken their toll on our squad physically and mentally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Right, I brought my pencil set and protractor so I'm ready to re-enter this thread. Fire away HF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Because really, what are stats except the collective representation of factual data? I'd much rather hear about emotions and how they relate to objective truth. They actually aren't though They can be, but they can still come down to human judgement and/or error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Any man who uses stats as the main crux of his argument cannot be trusted IMO. 9 times out of 10 you'd be right <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=15452"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/tee-hee.gif"></a> Don't belittle me Bimpy, that was comedy gold! I wasn't mate, i liked that comment a lot, made me chuckle. This gif a bit wrong then, sorry that wasn't my intention Ah ok, my bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Because really, what are stats except the collective representation of factual data? It is a problem that many people mistrust facts these days. It's a direct result of zombie stats getting widely spread in the media by journalists that don't understand or care about the specific details, just the sensational story. So (completely making up a stat here) 10 deaths in 5 million from meningitis growing to 19 deaths in 5 million is reported as "Kids 90% more likely to die". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Because really, what are stats except the collective representation of factual data? I'd much rather hear about emotions and how they relate to objective truth. They actually aren't though They can be, but they can still come down to human judgement and/or error. All data is open to interpretation and never tells the whole story. Plus the admission and exclusion of salient information can be used to twist any truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 STATS <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=15304"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/angry-dwight.gif"></a> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Plus the sample sizes available in football are extremely small. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Plus the sample sizes available in football are extremely small. Speak for yourself. Mine's massive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Plus the sample sizes available in football are extremely small. Speak for yourself. Mine's massive. Protesting too much there I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 People calling stats "facts" man Stats can be based on facts, as can an opinion, so although it sounds cutting it's really completely irrelevant. "I saw Cisse miss from 5 yards whilst the keeper was on the floor and slice another from 40 yards out for a throw in" is just a grounded by facts as "Cisse Shots Off Target - 2", only the former actually means something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 "statistics are just like mini-skirts, they give you good ideas but hide the most important thing". With that i'm out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We won 6 games and x team won 4 therefor we're better. We lost 14 games and x team lost 5 now who's better? I believe what I see on a pitch, not what some carefully selected information tells me, no matter how much it's spun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The funny thing is I've barely used any stats to defend Pardew apart from the fact his team aren't as reliant on the long ball...which no-one disagrees with and is blatant to anyone that's watched us over a period of time in 2013. People just go apeshit at the sight of a number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Unbelievable hypocrisy like. Tbf, we're talking about and watching football. Stats are raw and can be used however you want them to be used, no matter how ridiculous. Like saying 'Swansea only finished 5 points ahead of us'. I'm not against using stats at all, but I think using them as a crutch and putting them above your own experience, your gut and your judgement is complete lunacy. I couldn't watch a match and be consoled with the amount of shots we had, if I knew, first hand that we played s***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What's going on here then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What's going on here then? Happy Face is teaching these luddites how to analyse football correctly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What's going on here then? The same as every other time we lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Brett is proper mental. Sorry mate. The guy has rose tinted cornea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I actually could have done with Happy Face over the summer for a bit of positivity. I think he's refreshing for the forum rather than usual suspects trying to gauge an opinion on how we can still have a good season regardless of Pardew’s shitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Brett is proper mental. Sorry mate. The guy has rose tinted cornea. What have i said now. Shit a brick. I thought i'd calmed down after last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The funny thing is I've barely used any stats to defend Pardew apart from the fact his team aren't as reliant on the long ball...which no-one disagrees with and is blatant to anyone that's watched us over a period of time in 2013. People just go apeshit at the sight of a number. <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=15284"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/colbert-jaw-drop.gif"></a> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I pray pardew wins the next match. As much as I dislike the slime ball, i need him to win, just for this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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