Guest bimpy474 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=17063"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/dramatic.gif"></a> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Imo tbh I wouldn't say Pardew is lucky - but I wouldn't go as far as to say that he's unlucky either. The answer, is probably somewhere in the middle. Let's just hope Pardew's luck balance continues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 When begrudging praise is not an option, settle for LUCK. Do enjoy that it has become widespread on here to claim his tactics 'rely on luck' I'm confident that doesn't constitute a tactic and also happens to be utter bollocks. It is impossible to win 3 games in a row, 2 of which were against top sides, with tactics that rely on luck. Realise that the hatred runs deep, but bar perhaps the second half against Norwich, Pardew's tactics over the last 3 games have been canny. Ignoring this is nonsensical. what the fuck are you on about? no-one is saying pardew's gameplan is: 1st half: good football, pass it around, look for Loic in the space etc. etc. 2nd half: luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 When begrudging praise is not an option, settle for LUCK. Do enjoy that it has become widespread on here to claim his tactics 'rely on luck' I'm confident that doesn't constitute a tactic and also happens to be utter bollocks. It is impossible to win 3 games in a row, 2 of which were against top sides, with tactics that rely on luck. Realise that the hatred runs deep, but bar perhaps the second half against Norwich, Pardew's tactics over the last 3 games have been canny. Ignoring this is nonsensical. I agree. I mean - we won those games, did we not? No other argument is needed. If you win you must be doing most things right. Let's just hope he keeps winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Pardew lucky He was lucky to be appointed for this job but that's about it. He wasn't lucky to finish 5th, he wasn’t unlucky to finish 16th and we certainly aren't currently lucky to be in 8th place. It’s been a promising start to the season performance and result wise, just hope we can continue to build on it and keep improving as the season progresses. I find it interesting that you chose 'lucky' for the 5th finish and 'unlucky' for the 16th. In what sense, KI? If i said lucky for the 16th that would kind of imply if it wasn't for his luck we would have got relegated So I used unlucky as a counter argument as if we should have been much higher but Europe/Injuries/Confidence cost us. It's just an interesting mixture of language considering you were implying that lucky and unlucky are the exact opposite of each other yesterday. ie changing we were lucky that the opposition missed chances to the opposition were unlucky that they missed their chances. It just seems like a spin a bit, but I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 people gutted to have a bit of luck on our side. How is it possible to miss the point so dramatically? Nobody is gutted. People don't think it's sustainable to keep playing the way we are, like it hasn't been in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 people gutted to have a bit of luck on our side. How is it possible to miss the point so dramatically? Nobody is gutted. People don't think it's sustainable to keep playing the way we are, like it hasn't been in the past. Wow, cyber tears. If you can't enjoy the three wins in a row you'll never be satisfied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 people gutted to have a bit of luck on our side. You must be some shade of bellend to actually post this, smiley or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 people gutted to have a bit of luck on our side. How is it possible to miss the point so dramatically? Nobody is gutted. People don't think it's sustainable to keep playing the way we are, like it hasn't been in the past. thank fuck some other people have turned up; HF, ian, brett, fulowashola all at once, inochi would have tipped me over the edge and well said hans, said what i wanted to say in a single sentence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 people gutted to have a bit of luck on our side. How is it possible to miss the point so dramatically? Nobody is gutted. People don't think it's sustainable to keep playing the way we are, like it hasn't been in the past. It wasn't sustainable for a period of 13 games mid 12/13. Outside of that it seems to have been, outside of the odd trouncing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I never said anyone was disappointed we were lucky and winning. I just thing the luck argument is nonsensical. It's not even about how you rate Pardew, the argument itself is just stupid in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 When begrudging praise is not an option, settle for LUCK. Do enjoy that it has become widespread on here to claim his tactics 'rely on luck' I'm confident that doesn't constitute a tactic and also happens to be utter bollocks. It is impossible to win 3 games in a row, 2 of which were against top sides, with tactics that rely on luck. Realise that the hatred runs deep, but bar perhaps the second half against Norwich, Pardew's tactics over the last 3 games have been canny. Ignoring this is nonsensical. what the fuck are you on about? no-one is saying pardew's gameplan is: 1st half: good football, pass it around, look for Loic in the space etc. etc. 2nd half: luck It has been stated multiple times over the last few pages that he relies on luck. Or the thinking man's version of 'the profligacy of the opposition', which sounds like a shit LP. Anyway, the Spurs result had elements of luck about it, but on the whole the tactics have been successful over the last few games and I'm sure a lot of preparation went into implementing them. The overwhelming message from some seems to be that we have been lucky, I don't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Would you rather we talked about something else Ian? Is this not stimulating you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I dont think we can keep on playing the way we are and keep winning, eventually a team will score if you give them to much of the ball, but it has nothing to do with luck. Luck does plays a massive factor in football, both ways. You cant blame a win or defeat on one slice of luck, you need to dissect a whole game to say a win was lucky or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I never said anyone was disappointed we were lucky and winning. I just thing the luck argument is nonsensical. It's not even about how you rate Pardew, the argument itself is just stupid in general. It's a silly old argument all right. Who would ever waste their time talking about luck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 mrmojorisin75's the handsomest poster i've seen at NO in 10+ years of posting, almost everyone else is characterised by grotesque disfigurement. << not this bellend << Must have just been me found it funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 We deservedly beat Chelsea and Norwich then rode our luck a bit v Spurs but it wasn't a fluke win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 It seems to me it's more people moaning because Pardew isn't playing how they want us to play. They want us to dominate teams and go and win by 3 or 4 if the opportunity arises. Whereas Pardew has proven time and time again he's more than happy to defend what he's got, if a goal comes in a counter then great but defending the lead is priority. That's what people refuse to accept that we aren't playing how they feel we should be playing. Then the whole luck factor gets thrown in when the opposition don’t create so they must be shit so we got away with it or the opposition miss their chances so we got a let off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 We deservedly beat Chelsea and Norwich and rode our luck v a bit v Spurs but it wasn't a fluke win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 It seems to me it's more people moaning because Pardew isn't playing how they want us to play. They want us to dominate teams and go and win by 3 or 4 if the opportunity arises. Whereas Pardew has proven time and time again he's more than happy to defend what he's got, if a goal comes in a counter then great but defending the lead is priority. That's what people refuse to accept that we aren't playing how they feel we should be playing. Then the whole luck factor gets thrown in when the opposition don’t create so they must be s*** so we got away with it or the opposition miss their chances so we got a let off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Sustainability is obviously a worry but it isn't written in stone that we are going to employ the exact same tactic in every single match. We have had very different approaches to the last 3 matches so the idea that it is definitely unsustainable doesn't really ring true. Don't see why we can't play consistently enough to finish top 8/9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Brett and Happy Face stating what people are saying and it being completely different to what they're actually saying, despite everyone spelling it out for them in the most basic terms. There's a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Pardew is an enigma, imo. He alternates between quiet confidence and looking like he's just shit his pants. It appears that he requires stability and if he has a set lineup at his fingers he can get the most out of it. However, when instability strikes he loses complete control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 people gutted to have a bit of luck on our side. How is it possible to miss the point so dramatically? Nobody is gutted. People don't think it's sustainable to keep playing the way we are, like it hasn't been in the past. It wasn't sustainable for a period of 13 games mid 12/13. Outside of that it seems to have been, outside of the odd trouncing. It worked for about a dozen games at the start of the 11/12 season and then we fell to pieces. We actually started to play decent football in a 4-3-3 and go for the 2nd or 3rd goal after that heart attack 1-0 against Norwich. Since then though these 4 games are the only decent string of games we've had, and even then Tim Krul has had to literally be Superman to maintain it. I'm happy for us to play the way we are at the minute to an extent, with Shola up top instead of Ben Arfa even, it's working and we actually look half dangerous in attack. I just wish we could maintain some kind of threat instead of changing tactics to try and protect a lead if and when we take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The face on my 5 month old lights up when he does an interview. He should do kids telly with that lovely smile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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