Wullie Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Not that it is relevant or that they had as long but we generally played the same way under Hughton most of the time, likewise Robson 10 years ago. Both played Kick and Rush a lot of the time though - so not a million miles from what we're playing a lot of the time now - just with better fitting personal. Pardew plays a similar style to Bobby Robson? Are you on some sort of hard drugs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 If the only remotely tangible argument is that 'there may be someone worse come in' and that the clubs aspirations correlate then we are f***ed as fans. It's not beyond the realms of possibility but the more thread relevant issue remains that this man is hugely culpable, the easiest to replace and, whether he will or not, SHOULD cease to be the manager of this club. This is the time where we'll see the truest colours of this regime. Sadly if you look at Ashley's other appointments that's where we are as fans & the true colours of this regime is they don't want to sack their drinking buddy. Should he go then; in a footballing sense? If so does that make us unreasonable in our expectations? If the expectations we're matched by the clubs ambition/investment they wouldn't be unreasonable. A tiny squad lacking quality/depth finishing 7th whilst playing 50 + games? Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Both played Kick and Rush a lot of the time though - so not a million miles from what we're playing a lot of the time now - just with better fitting personal. Load of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Curbishley ffs. It's easy to play this game. "I'd like a new striker" "You what?! You want to sign Ade Akinbiyi?!" "Umm well a full back maybe?" "Oh so now you're happy to re-sign Peter Ramage?!" How many examples are there of us paying more for a replacement than we got for the player sold? With players Ashley can justify a few quid more too, as he can potentially recoup it. He knows whatever he pays a manager he's not getting back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Absolutely nailed that questionnaire My question to Pardew was: Your negative tactics contradict the players we have. Why do you persist with them? Hi Temuri, You know what? You're absolutely right. I'll sell them all in the summer. Thanks for your support, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Not that it is relevant or that they had as long but we generally played the same way under Hughton most of the time, likewise Robson 10 years ago. Both played Kick and Rush a lot of the time though - so not a million miles from what we're playing a lot of the time now - just with better fitting personal. Pardew plays a similar style to Bobby Robson? Are you on some sort of hard drugs? Did you ever watch Bobby Robson''s teams? There was a good deal of long ball/reliance on wingers sticking it in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 See, that's where this indisputable evidence of personal history comes into play, Mick. They've never forked out big bucks for a manager before, so they can't now. They were in for Redknapp and Keegan when they brought Keegan back for the 2nd time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I remember Ben Arfa earlier in the season talking about how he hoped we would be ambitious and aim to be one of the big teams in europe etc Alan Pardew: "Thank god we're not in Europe again" I really fear for some of our better players this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Absolutely nailed that questionnaire My question to Pardew was: Your negative tactics contradict the players we have. Why do you persist with them? Hi Temuri, You know what? You're absolutely right. I'll sell them all in the summer. Thanks for your support, Alan Like he has any say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Curbishley ffs. It's easy to play this game. "I'd like a new striker" "You what?! You want to sign Ade Akinbiyi?!" "Umm well a full back maybe?" "Oh so now you're happy to re-sign Peter Ramage?!" How many examples are there of us paying more for a replacement than we got for the player sold? With players Ashley can justify a few quid more too, as he can potentially recoup it. He knows whatever he pays a manager he's not getting back. Shouldn't the question be how many have been replaced with better, rather than how much we paid for them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 See, that's where this indisputable evidence of personal history comes into play, Mick. They've never forked out big bucks for a manager before, so they can't now. They were in for Redknapp and Keegan when they brought Keegan back for the 2nd time. Yep. Opted for the out of work option of Keegan. Wonder how much he was getting paid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Not that it is relevant or that they had as long but we generally played the same way under Hughton most of the time, likewise Robson 10 years ago. Both played Kick and Rush a lot of the time though - so not a million miles from what we're playing a lot of the time now - just with better fitting personal. Pardew plays a similar style to Bobby Robson? Are you on some sort of hard drugs? Did you ever watch Bobby Robson''s teams? There was a good deal of long ball/reliance on wingers sticking it in the box. Bobby Robson's teams always played positively and tried to score goals. That is the polar opposite of Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Did you ever watch Bobby Robson''s teams? There was a good deal of long ball/reliance on wingers sticking it in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 When have we spent £20m in January before under Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Absolutely nailed that questionnaire My question to Pardew was: Your negative tactics contradict the players we have. Why do you persist with them? Hi Temuri, You know what? You're absolutely right. I'll sell them all in the summer. Thanks for your support, Alan Like he has any say PR man, isn't he? Bullshitter, etc. I'm wasted here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Not that it is relevant or that they had as long but we generally played the same way under Hughton most of the time, likewise Robson 10 years ago. Both played Kick and Rush a lot of the time though - so not a million miles from what we're playing a lot of the time now - just with better fitting personal. Pardew plays a similar style to Bobby Robson? Are you on some sort of hard drugs? Did you ever watch Bobby Robson''s teams? There was a good deal of long ball/reliance on wingers sticking it in the box. :lol: Direct football can be fast paced and exiting like it was under Robson, to even try and compare that with Pardew's backs to wall containment bullshit is fucking ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I remember Ben Arfa earlier in the season talking about how he hoped we would be ambitious and aim to be one of the big teams in europe etc Alan Pardew: "Thank god we're not in Europe again" I really fear for some of our better players this summer. If numpty dumpty is still here I'm expecting at least 3 transfer requests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Did you ever watch Bobby Robson''s teams? There was a good deal of long ball/reliance on wingers sticking it in the box. I suggest you get your season reviews out. Watch em back . Also don't twist my argument - I was referencing style of play - not pragmatism/aggression. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Happy Face just can't cope with someone other than Ashley being a t*** at this club. I'm on record calling Pardew a c***. We were relegation bait before Pardew and we will be after though. Ashley is the common denominator. Ashley is a tool granted, but after the biggest spend of any team in the January window, he can hardly take any blame for the appalling showing since then. You can always gauge how good a Manager is when the chips are down. It's about how they react to improve in areas you're struggling in. Lets look at some of the issues. Passing is still f***ing shocking overall. Corners are, well I think we all know. Movement off the ball is still too static and easy to read. Lack of pressure on the ball. I could go on, but as not one of those areas have improved over the course of the season, I think it pretty much spells out he's not the right man for the job. We have improved since the window closed and the show hasn't been so appalling since then. We're 10th in the table on games since the window closed. It was the awful run before the window that f***ed our season. Have you actually watched us play?? We're getting results despite, not because of our form. Do you think it's acceptable to spend 21 million in January and in that time be 10th in the form league? That's an embarrassment if you ask me! He has a season ticket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yep. Opted for the out of work option of Keegan. Wonder how much he was getting paid? It was hardly surprising that they opted for an out of work option during the season, is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Having fun with this Chronicle survey.... 9. Who is your Newcastle United player of the season? Romain Amalfitano. By not playing, I think he probably contributed least to our on-field dreadfulness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yep. Opted for the out of work option of Keegan. Wonder how much he was getting paid? It was hardly surprising that they opted for an out of work option during the season, is it? Do we not have to pay compensation, or wages, if we hire one in the summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Their reluctance to employ managers for the right reasons will come back to haunt them. In the long run, it will jeopardize Ashley's investment, which is basically what he cares about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Did you ever watch Bobby Robson''s teams? There was a good deal of long ball/reliance on wingers sticking it in the box. I suggest you get your season reviews out. Watch em back . Also don't twist my argument - I was referencing style of play - not pragmatism/aggression. So what the fuck is your argument exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yep. Opted for the out of work option of Keegan. Wonder how much he was getting paid? It was hardly surprising that they opted for an out of work option during the season, is it? Do we not have to pay compensation, or wages, if we hire one in the summer? This is like that round on Whose Line Is It Anyway? Oh shit, I didn't answer with a question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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