Alan Pardew

[DJ_NUFC]

He's doing well.  Completely agree with him not playing Ben Arfa, we are a much better team without him.

 

I really don't understand when people say things like that. I hope he's the first name on your 'transfer out' sheet then. Ridiculous comment.

 

Failure to get the best out of and include your most talented player in your winning 11 no matter what the results is not something to trump around like a fucking achievement. We will see all flair go out of this club with this mentality.

 

Please wait for the inevitable time when Pards' new found system takes a beating and he resorts to hoying him on to save the fucking day.

[Cajun]

He's doing well.  Completely agree with him not playing Ben Arfa, we are a much better team without him.

 

I really don't understand when people say things like that. I hope he's the first name on your 'transfer out' sheet then. Ridiculous comment.

 

Failure to get the best out of and include your most talented player in your winning 11 no matter what the results is not something to trump around like a fucking achievement. We will see all flair go out of this club with this mentality.

 

Please wait for the inevitable time when Pards' new found system takes a beating and he resorts to hoying him on to save the fucking day.

 

Personally I would play Gouffran through the centre with HBA out wide and putting in the same effort he did when Pardew had him playing his best football but it's not that bold a statement to say we are playing our best team at the moment. Obviously this will all change when Shola reverts to form.

[Benwell Lad]

Contrasting "Pardew" things over the weekend.

Friday bumped into a bunch of fans from around England and Northern Ireland who were of the opinion that Pardew was a good manager and couldn't understand why we didn't like him. A couple used the anti-southern thing as a possible reason and without actually using the "D" word they wondered why we thought we could get a better manager than him right now? Of course I tried to explain that the majority of fans think he's an ok manager, some rate him higher than that and some don't.

Saturday afternoon, unless my ears were mistaking me, I heard a long and loud "Alan Pardew's black and white army" from the Strawberry corner.

Certainly not much sign of anti southern bias or delusions of courting a "bigger" manager there then. 

[Guest neesy111]

He's doing well.  Completely agree with him not playing Ben Arfa, we are a much better team without him.

 

I really don't understand when people say things like that. I hope he's the first name on your 'transfer out' sheet then. Ridiculous comment.

 

Failure to get the best out of and include your most talented player in your winning 11 no matter what the results is not something to trump around like a fucking achievement. We will see all flair go out of this club with this mentality.

 

Please wait for the inevitable time when Pards' new found system takes a beating and he resorts to hoying him on to save the fucking day.

 

The team comes before any individual players.  We are a better team without him.

[TRon]

He's doing well.  Completely agree with him not playing Ben Arfa, we are a much better team without him.

 

I really don't understand when people say things like that. I hope he's the first name on your 'transfer out' sheet then. Ridiculous comment.

 

Failure to get the best out of and include your most talented player in your winning 11 no matter what the results is not something to trump around like a fucking achievement. We will see all flair go out of this club with this mentality.

 

Please wait for the inevitable time when Pards' new found system takes a beating and he resorts to hoying him on to save the fucking day.

 

Personally I would play Gouffran through the centre with HBA out wide and putting in the same effort he did when Pardew had him playing his best football but it's not that bold a statement to say we are playing our best team at the moment. Obviously this will all change when Shola reverts to form.

 

I think team is the key word here. It's probably a bit unfair to start singling out Ben Arfa for the previous bad results but since we've put Shola in there we have worked well as a team. It wouldn't surprise me at all though to see HBA come into this team and take us up another level when the form starts to flag.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Pretty much what we done in the 2-0. Loved that game for some reason, Cabaye and Cisse () man.

 

We were excellent that game. Was counter attack to perfection. Would love to see that again on Wednesday.

 

wasn't it 80/20 possession or something in that game at one point

 

loved that match

 

The funny thing about that game was that in the final third possession was almost identical

 

I'd take the same again tbh....

[Mick]

Contrasting "Pardew" things over the weekend.

Friday bumped into a bunch of fans from around England and Northern Ireland who were of the opinion that Pardew was a good manager and couldn't understand why we didn't like him. A couple used the anti-southern thing as a possible reason and without actually using the "D" word they wondered why we thought we could get a better manager than him right now? Of course I tried to explain that the majority of fans think he's an ok manager, some rate him higher than that and some don't.

Saturday afternoon, unless my ears were mistaking me, I heard a long and loud "Alan Pardew's black and white army" from the Strawberry corner.

Certainly not much sign of anti southern bias or delusions of courting a "bigger" manager there then. 

 

I feel much better after reading that, thanks.

[NG32]

I would go to OT and attack them, they are still adjusting to the ways of Moyes.

 

Get at them and get at their centre backs.

[Hanshithispantz]

Ben Arfa would be the first name on the teamsheet for me, and probably 90% of managers. For the squad we have though, playing the way we are at the minute, there isn't really much room for him in Pardew's side.

 

I certainly prefer this than being trounced every week like.

[Mick]

 

 

The team comes before any individual players.  We are a better team without him.

 

That's debatable.

[Benwell Lad]

Contrasting "Pardew" things over the weekend.

Friday bumped into a bunch of fans from around England and Northern Ireland who were of the opinion that Pardew was a good manager and couldn't understand why we didn't like him. A couple used the anti-southern thing as a possible reason and without actually using the "D" word they wondered why we thought we could get a better manager than him right now? Of course I tried to explain that the majority of fans think he's an ok manager, some rate him higher than that and some don't.

Saturday afternoon, unless my ears were mistaking me, I heard a long and loud "Alan Pardew's black and white army" from the Strawberry corner.

Certainly not much sign of anti southern bias or delusions of courting a "bigger" manager there then. 

 

I feel much better after reading that, thanks.

 

Aye that chant must have been grating on you.

[BrettNUFC]

Contrasting "Pardew" things over the weekend.

Friday bumped into a bunch of fans from around England and Northern Ireland who were of the opinion that Pardew was a good manager and couldn't understand why we didn't like him. A couple used the anti-southern thing as a possible reason and without actually using the "D" word they wondered why we thought we could get a better manager than him right now? Of course I tried to explain that the majority of fans think he's an ok manager, some rate him higher than that and some don't.

Saturday afternoon, unless my ears were mistaking me, I heard a long and loud "Alan Pardew's black and white army" from the Strawberry corner.

Certainly not much sign of anti southern bias or delusions of courting a "bigger" manager there then. 

 

I feel much better after reading that, thanks.

 

Aye that chant must have been grating on you.

 

[Mole_Toonfan]

This way of playing won't last forever, just like when we finished 5th eventually we will hit a brick wall.

 

Then the more talented players like Anita and Ben Arfa will need to push us on, i have no complaints at all at the moment really i really like the balance of the midfield 4 for example but i wouldn't say we are better or worse without Ben Arfa.

[Mick]

 

 

Aye that chant must have been grating on you.

 

It just shows how fickle a lot of people in the Gallowgate corner are.

[Benwell Lad]

 

 

Aye that chant must have been grating on you.

 

It just shows how fickle a lot of people in the Gallowgate corner are.

 

I tend to agree with you on that, but there again one man's "fickle" could be another man's "open minded".

[Cajun]

 

 

Aye that chant must have been grating on you.

 

It just shows how fickle a lot of people in the Gallowgate corner are.

 

I tend to agree with you on that, but there again one man's "fickle" could be another man's "open minded".

 

 

 

[cp40]

 

 

Aye that chant must have been grating on you.

 

It just shows how fickle a lot of people in the Gallowgate corner are.

 

I tend to agree with you on that, but there again one man's "fickle" could be another man's "open minded".

 

 

yep I will continue to judge How well he is doing on, How well he is doing. Crazy bastard that I am.

 

Soz Venk.

[Zero]

Ben Arfa, normally, should be starting for any team and make the team better than not playing him. However we have a right back who desperately needs winger protection and this is the main reason why Ben Arfa cannot start for us. I am not blaming debuchy because he contributed a lot in other areas. I just feel sorry for Hatem.

[tmonkey]

Kudos to Pardew for finding a team that is grinding out results. 4 wins in a row in this division is always impressive no matter the circumstances in individual games.

 

Me personally, I'm not happy with our performance despite the result (yet again). Thought we were poor in the first half (West Brom being worse), gradually improving, but then came out in the second half looking piss poor and unable to adjust to West Brom pushing players forward. To my eyes we barely created a clear cut chance in 90 minutes of football at home to a mediocre team, and were yet again reliant on hoping the opposition were piss poor in the final third, which West Brom duly were - it's almost like Pardew has found a method of rope-a-doping the opposition just about enough to nick a lead and then hold on. I think Sissoko's cracker came against the run of play with the momentum being with West Brom, hence the reason why I'm not happy with the performance - it's not sustainable over the long term imo and we should be doing alot more with the players we have (including those sitting on the bench).

 

I'm sure the likes of Brett, Ian W, etc, were watching a completely different game (good attacking/creative football from us, solid defense, only one team going to win it, etc etc), but then that's part of what makes football such a great sport, i.e. the differing opinions on the same players, matches, managers, incidents, etc.

 

In terms of Pardew himself and the bigger picture, firstly I don't think this method of playing is sustainable over the long term (e.g. beyond this season), secondly that we're wasting some premium talent (Ben Arfa, Anita, possibly Marveaux) by having a manager who just can't work with them, and thirdly even if it is (e.g. we finish top 5 again), we'll be back to struggling again as he clearly hates European campaigns. And I suspect the latter is because his only real gameplan is all about containment and nicking the lead, which inherently relies on high levels of workrate, fitness, preparation, concentration, etc - add in a lengthy European campaign and the stamina/distraction issues kick in. Which is a shame really, as perversely I think Pardew's tactics are more suited to European football given the benefits of taking a more conservative containment approach.

[Tiresias]

I can see both sides, we are playing scrappily, but on the other hand we should have had a pen, they should have been down to 10 (more dubiously) and we had chances to bury it, way more than them. We do seem to not be hitting top gear than we can when ben arfa is in the team and playing well

[Ikon]

People are going overboard with talk of that Debuchy must have a player in front of him who is strong defensively. Of course it helps! And it's probably one of the reasons that helped him gain confidence and adapting to a new league. But i think he'd do well anyway from now on!

[BrettNUFC]

To my eyes we barely created a clear cut chance in 90 minutes of football.

 

I'm sure the likes of Brett, Ian W, etc, were watching a completely different game (good attacking/creative football from us, solid defense, only one team going to win it, etc etc), but then that's part of what makes football such a great sport, i.e. the differing opinions on the same players, matches, managers, incidents, etc.

 

You were watching a different game if you couldn't see we were creating chances. That's not even an opinion, it's a fact.

[Tiresias]

Yeah we made chances, one of the harder chances was the one that went in. Remy had a bit of an off day too, on another day he'll score some of those chances. I for one am pleased we are winning with functional performances again, last season we'd have lost that, and now confidence is building.

[TRon]

Contrasting "Pardew" things over the weekend.

Friday bumped into a bunch of fans from around England and Northern Ireland who were of the opinion that Pardew was a good manager and couldn't understand why we didn't like him. A couple used the anti-southern thing as a possible reason and without actually using the "D" word they wondered why we thought we could get a better manager than him right now? Of course I tried to explain that the majority of fans think he's an ok manager, some rate him higher than that and some don't.

Saturday afternoon, unless my ears were mistaking me, I heard a long and loud "Alan Pardew's black and white army" from the Strawberry corner.

Certainly not much sign of anti southern bias or delusions of courting a "bigger" manager there then. 

 

I feel much better after reading that, thanks.

 

Aye that chant must have been grating on you.

 

I'll be surprised if that doesn't come back to bite them on the arse tbh.

[Zero]

Kudos to Pardew for finding a team that is grinding out results. 4 wins in a row in this division is always impressive no matter the circumstances in individual games.

 

Me personally, I'm not happy with our performance despite the result (yet again). Thought we were poor in the first half (West Brom being worse), gradually improving, but then came out in the second half looking p*ss poor and unable to adjust to West Brom pushing players forward. To my eyes we barely created a clear cut chance in 90 minutes of football at home to a mediocre team, and were yet again reliant on hoping the opposition were p*ss poor in the final third, which West Brom duly were - it's almost like Pardew has found a method of rope-a-doping the opposition just about enough to nick a lead and then hold on. I think Sissoko's cracker came against the run of play with the momentum being with West Brom, hence the reason why I'm not happy with the performance - it's not sustainable over the long term imo and we should be doing alot more with the players we have (including those sitting on the bench).

 

I'm sure the likes of Brett, Ian W, etc, were watching a completely different game (good attacking/creative football from us, solid defense, only one team going to win it, etc etc), but then that's part of what makes football such a great sport, i.e. the differing opinions on the same players, matches, managers, incidents, etc.

 

In terms of Pardew himself and the bigger picture, firstly I don't think this method of playing is sustainable over the long term (e.g. beyond this season), secondly that we're wasting some premium talent (Ben Arfa, Anita, possibly Marveaux) by having a manager who just can't work with them, and thirdly even if it is (e.g. we finish top 5 again), we'll be back to struggling again as he clearly hates European campaigns. And I suspect the latter is because his only real gameplan is all about containment and nicking the lead, which inherently relies on high levels of workrate, fitness, preparation, concentration, etc - add in a lengthy European campaign and the stamina/distraction issues kick in. Which is a shame really, as perversely I think Pardew's tactics are more suited to European football given the benefits of taking a more conservative containment approach.

 

If he got a squad like Chelsea or Man City where he can have 22 players with starting quality, he could do very well in Europe.

 

Will never happen though.