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When I went to Barcelona a few years ago I only saw one Espanyol shirt the whole time I was there, worn by a lady working in a butchers. Is the ratio of fans the most lop sided in any city in world football?

 

The Spanish public survey agency made recently a study of club followings throughout Spain. According to them, in the Barcelona area it was something of a 25:1 ratio.

 

There's actually more Real Madrid fans in Barcelona than Espanyol fans. Comfortably so.

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When I went to Barcelona a few years ago I only saw one Espanyol shirt the whole time I was there, worn by a lady working in a butchers. Is the ratio of fans the most lop sided in any city in world football?

 

The Spanish public survey agency made recently a study of club followings throughout Spain. According to them, in the Barcelona area it was something of a 25:1 ratio.

 

There's actually more Real Madrid fans in Barcelona than Espanyol fans. Comfortably so.

 

25 to 1 is mental. :lol:

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They have been languishing under financial duress since the late 90s, when they were forced to sell their stadium (and it was a bad sale, too). They have been crippled with debt and lack of revenue because they didn't own a stadium until they built Cornellà-El Prat. They operate on a shoestring, and even with their diminished fanbase they should still be one of the 7-8 richest clubs in the country. Theirs is a story of chronic mismanagement and short-termism.

 

They have a decent board now. Building their own stadium should help in the long term, but it has crippled them in the short one. The residential developments that were attached to the deal didn't pan out because of the big real state crash in Spain. They have been unlucky, but in 4-5 years they should stabilize. Their challenge is keeping a decent fanbase until then; the attendances have been constantly dropping for the past years.

 

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Ralph Milne, former Dundee United and Manchester United left winger has died aged 54.

 

I remember him at Charlton before Taggart signed him back when they were shit. Taggart hadn't cleared out the renowned pissheads by this time, the only successful signing he'd made for them by then was Brian McClair, and Milne, as I remember was distinctly mediocre for them.

 

Still, 54 is no age. RIP.

 

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Milne is actually pretty respected by Manchester United fans while being, as you said, distinctly mediocre. I imagine that's mainly because while Fergie was criticised for the signing, he actually defended Milne and said he was an asset. I was too young to know for myself really.

 

RIP.

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VI would be able to clarify but from my understanding (what I've read) its true.

 

The book Fear And Loathing In La Liga by Sid Lowe covers the rivalry and popularity really well, with La Roja as a complimentary book it basically gives you lots of information on both. 

 

My parents live in Southern Valencia region and there's a Barca supporters bar in the town.

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I read that Barca/Real tend to be people's second team in Spain if not #1. Is this true?

 

Yes, overwhelmingly so. Only a few "third teams" actually rule in their catchment areas:

 

http://www.jotdown.es/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/mapa-5.png

 

Everything white-ish on the map means a majority of Real/Madrid Barça fans. Darker shades of green mean that province has a majority of non-Barçadrid fans.

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How big are Athletic in Madrid /Spain?

 

Are a club like Valencia better supported?

 

What are the name of the clubs in green that are not obvious?

 

This map is probably more useful:

 

http://www.jotdown.es/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/mapa-1.png

 

I've always found it interesting that, barring a couple of exceptions, the Spanish north has stronger local clubs. Madrid dominates over the poorest parts of the country, which don't have strong clubs.

 

Atlético and Valencia have a very strong rivalry to settle who's "best of the rest". They are pretty close regarding fanbases. Atlético are a minority in Madrid, but since it's such a big city that leaves them with lots of fans still.

 

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