Cronky Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 http://e1.365dm.com/16/03/768x432/ray-wilkins-euro-96-england-euro-2016_3436106.jpg?20160323121030 It'd be interesting to spend time with Wilkins, getting him to explain that selection. Ince wasn't that great, but Alli for Platt is bold. Wilshere is exceptional, but along with a lot of young Arsenal players, he's struggled for fitness. Along with Ox-C, Ramsey and Walcott, you wonder whether Wenger, with his youth policy, over-plays them at this high level at too young an age, and they end up with problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Never seen the hype with Wilshere. He's good but the way some go on he's like the second coming of Gazza. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 David Platt wouldn't be in there man.[emoji38]Ince definitely though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 http://e1.365dm.com/16/03/768x432/ray-wilkins-euro-96-england-euro-2016_3436106.jpg?20160323121030 It'd be interesting to spend time with Wilkins, getting him to explain that selection. Ince wasn't that great, but Alli for Platt is bold. Wilshere is exceptional, but along with a lot of young Arsenal players, he's struggled for fitness. Along with Ox-C, Ramsey and Walcott, you wonder whether Wenger, with his youth policy, over-plays them at this high level at too young an age, and they end up with problems. Ince wasn't that great? You're fucking mental you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Eric Dier? what an odd choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 People are forgetting that Ray Wilkins is batshit mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Not watched a lot of football this year but what's the Eric Dier love in about? He was turgid when I watched him last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Good back four and keeper but not sure wtf he is on with Alli and Dier. Can't get over Alli's immensley punchable face.. Ince and Platt above those two. I like Wilshere (think I'm in the minority) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Not watched a lot of football this year but what's the Eric Dier love in about? He was turgid when I watched him last season. Supposedly been a key player for Spurs this season, but I agree, I don't get it either. Probably be the usual overhyping and then he turns out to be bang average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Tbh, I don't think I'd have any of them over that Euro '96 team, perhaps even beyond a lot of the subs, which included Fowler, Ferdinand, Campbell and Redknapp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 We had a ridiculously good squad for that tournament Maybe 2006 WC would come close but we should have won 96 imo. That was our chance. Bugger! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 People are forgetting that Ray Wilkins is batshit mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 People are forgetting that Ray Wilkins is batshit mental. It's not really a crazy line up though, tbf. Garth Crooks would probably have Rooney in ahead of Gazza and James Morrison in ahead of Paul Ince at left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 People are forgetting that Ray Wilkins is batshit mental. It's not really a crazy line up though, tbf. Garth Crooks would probably have Rooney in ahead of Gazza and James Morrison in ahead of Paul Ince at left back. Garth Crooks is a different level of mental though. Only a couple of weeks ago he had Troy Deeney as a defensive midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 :lol: Crooks really needs help like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Garth Crooks drawing FA cup balls was the funniest thing ever. He looked like he was about to die. Sweating everywhere, wiping his face and shaking loads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 http://e1.365dm.com/16/03/768x432/ray-wilkins-euro-96-england-euro-2016_3436106.jpg?20160323121030 It'd be interesting to spend time with Wilkins, getting him to explain that selection. Ince wasn't that great, but Alli for Platt is bold. Wilshere is exceptional, but along with a lot of young Arsenal players, he's struggled for fitness. Along with Ox-C, Ramsey and Walcott, you wonder whether Wenger, with his youth policy, over-plays them at this high level at too young an age, and they end up with problems. Alli for Platt is bold when Platt wasn't even in the Euro 96 side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I'm pretty certain he started the two knockout matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I'm pretty certain he started the two knockout matches. Ah so he did, filling in for suspensions both times http://www.englandfootballonline.com/CmpEC/CmpEC1996Squad.html He's not even in the discussion, he was not even first choice back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Anderton then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Dier ahead of Ince? By '96 Ince was a very experienced player at the top level. Perhaps he had peaked but no way Dier gets in ahead of him currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 This website legit? https://www.worldofjohancruyff.com/ Cruyff died today? No news anywhere nor on twitter edit: shit it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 RIP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Good back four and keeper but not sure wtf he is on with Alli and Dier. Can't get over Alli's immensley punchable face.. Ince and Platt above those two. I like Wilshere (think I'm in the minority) You can't get over Alli's punchable face so you pick Ince? I think that's called cognitive dissonance . Alli and Dier could each do a job for England, but you'd have to build a team that works as a team. It's the age-old problem - do you pick the eleven best players or do you look at who's available and craft a style that fits as many as possible? Either way, the press and some fans will be pissed off. I've said this before - Alli has been effective for us because he's been given a fair bit of freedom. Even so, many Spurs fans are frustrated with him and wouldn't actually have him in their first team. I would, because you can afford one player who just runs about a lot and pops up with crucial goals and assists. You just have to recognize that he's still a kid. He's incredibly fit, pretty strong, and skilful; just inconsistent - gives the ball away a lot, flits in and out of the game a bit. Dier has surprised all of us - we were desperate for a DM in the Summer and Poch/Levy got a lot of stick for us ending up with Dier. He really has been a revelation...but the proviso is that he's got a fairly simple job. He's asked to sit in front of the defence for the most part, then when we get the ball he drops back to let the full-backs push on. He's bloody good at that job. If you ask him to do that for England then fair enough, and he's going to look pretty good. If you ask him to do anything else in midfield then you're asking for trouble. One big point in his favour when you're looking at a tournament is that he can do a job at DM, CB and RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 And shit, Cruyff died while I was writing that? RIP indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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