Parky Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I was thinking Clough, SAF and Paisley. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Terry Butcher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Ron Manager. Serious Answer: SAF, undoubtedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 what's not classed as recent times? Saw the thread title and you were going to suggest Moyes or something. Clough and Paisley aren't exactly "recent"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 SAF did it twice, I think people forget the miracles he performed at Aberdeen. Of course for me Clough was a better man manager and psychologist and won things with a club with practically no money in relative terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 SAF easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 SAF did it twice, I think people forget the miracles he performed at Aberdeen. Of course for me Clough was a better man manager and psychologist and won things with a club with practically no money in relative terms. Yeah, at Forest... But his career wasn't limited to Forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 SAF easily. Had a lot of money the whole time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 SAF easily. Had a lot of money the whole time. Many others have had that without coming close to what he did. The consistency and rebuilding of his sides, it's unprecedented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 SAF easily. Had a lot of money the whole time. And won stuff pretty much the whole time building several teams in the process. The best by a long margin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 SAF easily. Had a lot of money the whole time. Many others have had that without coming close to what he did. The consistency and rebuilding of his sides, it's unprecedented. Like who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 SAF easily. Had a lot of money the whole time. Chelsea and Man City have even more but he managed to win the league or put up a strong challenge. His longevity and the ability to reinvent his teams and adapt to the times in terms of tactics and managing his players does it for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Fergie landed on his feet a bit with the TV deal and he's always had a decent base with Manchester, his achievements are still 2nd to non though. I'd still say Cloughie - baring what came afterwards due to his problems with Alcohol - was the most impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filflop1 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 SBR ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Wenger has had similar, but with far less resources at his disposal. So, nobody has had the same level of financial backing over the long term as SAF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think winning the old European cup was a hell of a lot harder when it was all knockout games. Clough won it twice and should have won it 3 times if Juve didn't bribe the ref against Derby. He was only the second manager to win the league with two different sides. However SAF probably has to go down as the greatest but Clough's achievements were amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Wenger has had similar, but with far less resources at his disposal. So, nobody has had the same level of financial backing over the long term as SAF. Spent an av of 35m a season net apart from the season they sold CR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think winning the old European cup was a hell of a lot harder when it was all knockout games. Clough won it twice and should have won it 3 times if Juve didn't bribe the ref against Derby. He was only the second manager to win the league with two different sides. However SAF probably has to go down as the greatest but Clough's achievements were amazing. If Clough had the same money it would be no contest imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Alan Pardew. 8 year Contract . Prides himself in tactical Knowledge. Brand of front foot fast football. Football type: Carpet football Biggest Fans : Newcastle fans that drool onside when watching his teams play... Biggest weakest : Shit players, the overpaid and egoistic players hold Pardew teams back. Favorite players : Jonas , Tiote anybody that keeps running with spirit. Secret Weapon : Magic and Spirit Too good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Glenn Roeder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 It has to be Ferguson, not just because of what he has achieved but also look at how he has been able to adapt himself in the past 20 years in hand with how the game has evolved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think winning the old European cup was a hell of a lot harder when it was all knockout games. Clough won it twice and should have won it 3 times if Juve didn't bribe the ref against Derby. He was only the second manager to win the league with two different sides. However SAF probably has to go down as the greatest but Clough's achievements were amazing. If Clough had the same money it would be no contest imo. He was unbelievable mind. To think he retired in his late 50s too. If the drink didn't get him god knows what he would have achieved. Winning the league with Derby was impressive. But doing it the season after promotion with Forest was unbelievable. Plus their 40 odd game beaten run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Kevin Ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think that considering SAF has been one of, if not the best manager in the world over the last 20 years, it's hard to look past him, nor should you imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Domestically Fergie, it must be killimng him not having won the Euopean cup a couple more times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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