Foluwashola Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 18:33, Deuce said: Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. What narrative is that? Altidore is a below standard Premier League striker. Cisse is irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 18:41, Magpie said: Seems a lot of their fans are wanting Bally full time, champion!!! While I wanted them to get beat, a draw may have been better in terms of keeping him full time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Altidore is a strong lad but he isn't much of a threat with it. I think he'll score around 5 Premier League goals for them. I don't rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 18:41, Magpie said: Seems a lot of their fans are wanting Bally full time, champion!!! Diego Simeone decide to decline the job then? Strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 18:43, nufc4eva said: Quote Seems a lot of their fans are wanting Bally full time, champion!!! While I wanted them to get beat, a draw may have been better in terms of keeping him full time My thoughts exactly, they got quite the ovation when they came off. Lots of graft but they had zero quality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ste Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I don't know where they are going to pick up points, looking at their fixtures. The odd draw here and there, but I can't see them winning any time soon. Desperate times for them. They need a real quality managerial appointment, but the men being linked with the job would probably do about as well as Ball at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 18:39, Deuce said: Quote Quote Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. Would you rather Altidore than Cisse? Genuine question. Right now, you bet. With both players in peak form, probably not. Altidore would provide us so much more right now, much better at holding it up and in general play. Really though, I expect Cisse will outscore him anyway, but that's mostly down to the team around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 murkins pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Altidore is no better than Ji or Wickham, amazing they managed to scour Europe and splash out on somebody just as poor as what they already have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Altidore just looks like a big lump with zero ability other than being big and reasonably quick. Certainly out of his depth in this league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 18:41, Toon's Taylor said: Quote Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. What a load of sweaty arse crack. Cisse gets enough criticism in his own thread and several others round here, you've justified comparing jozy with the most out of form player on our books. Cracking, he's Americas best player as well yeah? Your boy has been shit so far, equally as shite as his hull days. Hopefully for you he'll score against us and you can be proud of your nations talents once again. First, I've never claimed he's our best player. He's not. I've only ever claimed he's better than he's given credit for by some of you hellbent on your anti-Mackem/anti-Yank crusade. He has not been shit. Next to Giaccherini, he has easily been the best player on a very poor team. RVP himself wouldn't be scoring for Sunderland at the moment, they're just that bad. And to pre-empt your next quip, no, that statement is not akin to saying "Altidore is just as good as RVP." His hold-up play has been quite good, he makes smart passes, and he can rip off a good shot. When he gets the ball, which is few and far between. Amazing how whenever he receives service for the U.S., he scores. Whenever he received service for AZ, he scored. Of course, 'CONCACAF and the Eredivisie are shit' blah blah blah and all that utter nonsense. It's funny that, for instance, "Sessegnon was their best player over the past few years, albeit bang average." Now that he no longer plays for Sunderland, "he's a really good player." Some of you are utterly incapable of objectivity when it comes to Sunderland. It's a childishness that extends far beyond football and, from outsiders' perspectives, is wildly pathetic. Sunderland is a nothing team from a nothing city with no history. If you want to be taken seriously by the rest of the country (and, despite pretending not to care, so many of you constantly bemoan the fact that Newcastle is slighted by southerners), stop comparing yourselves to Sunderland and start comparing yourselves to the Liverpools and Manchesters of the football world. Hold yourselves to a higher standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open_C Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 18:51, Messi said: murkins pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:11, Deuce said: Quote Quote Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. What a load of sweaty arse crack. Cisse gets enough criticism in his own thread and several others round here, you've justified comparing jozy with the most out of form player on our books. Cracking, he's Americas best player as well yeah? Your boy has been shit so far, equally as shite as his hull days. Hopefully for you he'll score against us and you can be proud of your nations talents once again. First, I've never claimed he's our best player. He's not. I've only ever claimed he's better than he's given credit for by some of you hellbent on your anti-Mackem/anti-Yank crusade. He has not been shit. Next to Giaccherini, he has easily been the best player on a very poor team. RVP himself wouldn't be scoring for Sunderland at the moment, they're just that bad. And to pre-empt your next quip, no, that statement is not akin to saying "Altidore is just as good as RVP." His hold-up play has been quite good, he makes smart passes, and he can rip off a good shot. When he gets the ball, which is few and far between. Amazing how whenever he receives service for the U.S., he scores. Whenever he received service for AZ, he scored. Of course, 'CONCACAF and the Eredivisie are shit' blah blah blah and all that utter nonsense. It's funny that, for instance, "Sessegnon was their best player over the past few years, albeit bang average." Now that he no longer plays for Sunderland, "he's a really good player." Some of you are utterly incapable of objectivity when it comes to Sunderland. It's a childishness that extends far beyond football and, from outsiders' perspectives, is wildly pathetic. Sunderland is a nothing team from a nothing city with no history. If you want to be taken seriously by the rest of the country (and, despite pretending not to care, so many of you constantly bemoan the fact that Newcastle is slighted by southerners), stop comparing yourselves to Sunderland and start comparing yourselves to the Liverpools and Manchesters of the football world. Good grief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:11, Deuce said: Quote Quote Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. What a load of sweaty arse crack. Cisse gets enough criticism in his own thread and several others round here, you've justified comparing jozy with the most out of form player on our books. Cracking, he's Americas best player as well yeah? Your boy has been shit so far, equally as shite as his hull days. Hopefully for you he'll score against us and you can be proud of your nations talents once again. First, I've never claimed he's our best player. He's not. I've only ever claimed he's better than he's given credit for by some of you hellbent on your anti-Mackem/anti-Yank crusade. He has not been shit. Next to Giaccherini, he has easily been the best player on a very poor team. RVP himself wouldn't be scoring for Sunderland at the moment, they're just that bad. And to pre-empt your next quip, no, that statement is not akin to saying "Altidore is just as good as RVP." His hold-up play has been quite good, he makes smart passes, and he can rip off a good shot. When he gets the ball, which is few and far between. Amazing how whenever he receives service for the U.S., he scores. Whenever he received service for AZ, he scored. Of course, 'CONCACAF and the Eredivisie are shit' blah blah blah and all that utter nonsense. It's funny that, for instance, "Sessegnon was their best player over the past few years, albeit bang average." Now that he no longer plays for Sunderland, "he's a really good player." Some of you are utterly incapable of objectivity when it comes to Sunderland. It's a childishness that extends far beyond football and, from outsiders' perspectives, is wildly pathetic. Sunderland is a nothing team from a nothing city with no history. If you want to be taken seriously by the rest of the country (and, despite pretending not to care, so many of you constantly bemoan the fact that Newcastle is slighted by southerners), stop comparing yourselves to Sunderland and start comparing yourselves to the Liverpools and Manchesters of the football world. http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Sean-Connery-Fist-Pump-US-Open.gif Smug English fucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:15, Mike said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. What a load of sweaty arse crack. Cisse gets enough criticism in his own thread and several others round here, you've justified comparing jozy with the most out of form player on our books. Cracking, he's Americas best player as well yeah? Your boy has been shit so far, equally as shite as his hull days. Hopefully for you he'll score against us and you can be proud of your nations talents once again. First, I've never claimed he's our best player. He's not. I've only ever claimed he's better than he's given credit for by some of you hellbent on your anti-Mackem/anti-Yank crusade. He has not been shit. Next to Giaccherini, he has easily been the best player on a very poor team. RVP himself wouldn't be scoring for Sunderland at the moment, they're just that bad. And to pre-empt your next quip, no, that statement is not akin to saying "Altidore is just as good as RVP." His hold-up play has been quite good, he makes smart passes, and he can rip off a good shot. When he gets the ball, which is few and far between. Amazing how whenever he receives service for the U.S., he scores. Whenever he received service for AZ, he scored. Of course, 'CONCACAF and the Eredivisie are shit' blah blah blah and all that utter nonsense. It's funny that, for instance, "Sessegnon was their best player over the past few years, albeit bang average." Now that he no longer plays for Sunderland, "he's a really good player." Some of you are utterly incapable of objectivity when it comes to Sunderland. It's a childishness that extends far beyond football and, from outsiders' perspectives, is wildly pathetic. Sunderland is a nothing team from a nothing city with no history. If you want to be taken seriously by the rest of the country (and, despite pretending not to care, so many of you constantly bemoan the fact that Newcastle is slighted by southerners), stop comparing yourselves to Sunderland and start comparing yourselves to the Liverpools and Manchesters of the football world. http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Sean-Connery-Fist-Pump-US-Open.gif Smug English fucks. It's not even smug English fucks. It's small-minded Geordies. No wonder this club has no ambition at the moment, they've received implicit signals from the fanbase that finishing ahead of a crap team is the ultimate benchmark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open_C Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Not sure how well the objectivity argument holds up given the nature of the current debate tbh (this is posted entirely without prejudice, however, since I have zero interest in, or opinions on, said player) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:16, Deuce said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. What a load of sweaty arse crack. Cisse gets enough criticism in his own thread and several others round here, you've justified comparing jozy with the most out of form player on our books. Cracking, he's Americas best player as well yeah? Your boy has been shit so far, equally as shite as his hull days. Hopefully for you he'll score against us and you can be proud of your nations talents once again. First, I've never claimed he's our best player. He's not. I've only ever claimed he's better than he's given credit for by some of you hellbent on your anti-Mackem/anti-Yank crusade. He has not been shit. Next to Giaccherini, he has easily been the best player on a very poor team. RVP himself wouldn't be scoring for Sunderland at the moment, they're just that bad. And to pre-empt your next quip, no, that statement is not akin to saying "Altidore is just as good as RVP." His hold-up play has been quite good, he makes smart passes, and he can rip off a good shot. When he gets the ball, which is few and far between. Amazing how whenever he receives service for the U.S., he scores. Whenever he received service for AZ, he scored. Of course, 'CONCACAF and the Eredivisie are shit' blah blah blah and all that utter nonsense. It's funny that, for instance, "Sessegnon was their best player over the past few years, albeit bang average." Now that he no longer plays for Sunderland, "he's a really good player." Some of you are utterly incapable of objectivity when it comes to Sunderland. It's a childishness that extends far beyond football and, from outsiders' perspectives, is wildly pathetic. Sunderland is a nothing team from a nothing city with no history. If you want to be taken seriously by the rest of the country (and, despite pretending not to care, so many of you constantly bemoan the fact that Newcastle is slighted by southerners), stop comparing yourselves to Sunderland and start comparing yourselves to the Liverpools and Manchesters of the football world. http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Sean-Connery-Fist-Pump-US-Open.gif Smug English fucks. It's not even smug English fucks. It's small-minded Geordies. No wonder this club has no ambition at the moment, they've received implicit signals from the fanbase that finishing ahead of a crap team is the ultimate benchmark. Just gonna say, Buffalo has been shit since you've been in here arguing. Priorities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:11, Deuce said: Quote Quote Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. What a load of sweaty arse crack. Cisse gets enough criticism in his own thread and several others round here, you've justified comparing jozy with the most out of form player on our books. Cracking, he's Americas best player as well yeah? Your boy has been shit so far, equally as shite as his hull days. Hopefully for you he'll score against us and you can be proud of your nations talents once again. First, I've never claimed he's our best player. He's not. I've only ever claimed he's better than he's given credit for by some of you hellbent on your anti-Mackem/anti-Yank crusade. He has not been shit. Next to Giaccherini, he has easily been the best player on a very poor team. RVP himself wouldn't be scoring for Sunderland at the moment, they're just that bad. And to pre-empt your next quip, no, that statement is not akin to saying "Altidore is just as good as RVP." His hold-up play has been quite good, he makes smart passes, and he can rip off a good shot. When he gets the ball, which is few and far between. Amazing how whenever he receives service for the U.S., he scores. Whenever he received service for AZ, he scored. Of course, 'CONCACAF and the Eredivisie are shit' blah blah blah and all that utter nonsense. It's funny that, for instance, "Sessegnon was their best player over the past few years, albeit bang average." Now that he no longer plays for Sunderland, "he's a really good player." Some of you are utterly incapable of objectivity when it comes to Sunderland. It's a childishness that extends far beyond football and, from outsiders' perspectives, is wildly pathetic. Sunderland is a nothing team from a nothing city with no history. If you want to be taken seriously by the rest of the country (and, despite pretending not to care, so many of you constantly bemoan the fact that Newcastle is slighted by southerners), stop comparing yourselves to Sunderland and start comparing yourselves to the Liverpools and Manchesters of the football world. Hold yourselves to a higher standard. Mackem TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:11, Deuce said: Quote Quote Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. What a load of sweaty arse crack. Cisse gets enough criticism in his own thread and several others round here, you've justified comparing jozy with the most out of form player on our books. Cracking, he's Americas best player as well yeah? Your boy has been s*** so far, equally as s**** as his hull days. Hopefully for you he'll score against us and you can be proud of your nations talents once again. First, I've never claimed he's our best player. He's not. I've only ever claimed he's better than he's given credit for by some of you hellbent on your anti-Mackem/anti-Yank crusade. He has not been s***. Next to Giaccherini, he has easily been the best player on a very poor team. RVP himself wouldn't be scoring for Sunderland at the moment, they're just that bad. And to pre-empt your next quip, no, that statement is not akin to saying "Altidore is just as good as RVP." His hold-up play has been quite good, he makes smart passes, and he can rip off a good shot. When he gets the ball, which is few and far between. Amazing how whenever he receives service for the U.S., he scores. Whenever he received service for AZ, he scored. Of course, 'CONCACAF and the Eredivisie are s***' blah blah blah and all that utter nonsense. It's funny that, for instance, "Sessegnon was their best player over the past few years, albeit bang average." Now that he no longer plays for Sunderland, "he's a really good player." Some of you are utterly incapable of objectivity when it comes to Sunderland. It's a childishness that extends far beyond football and, from outsiders' perspectives, is wildly pathetic. Sunderland is a nothing team from a nothing city with no history. If you want to be taken seriously by the rest of the country (and, despite pretending not to care, so many of you constantly bemoan the fact that Newcastle is slighted by southerners), stop comparing yourselves to Sunderland and start comparing yourselves to the Liverpools and Manchesters of the football world. Hold yourselves to a higher standard. http://troll.me/images/full-retard/you-went-full-retard-never-go-full-retard.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:17, OpenC said: Not sure how well the objectivity argument holds up given the nature of the current debate tbh (this is posted entirely without prejudice, however, since I have zero interest in, or opinions on, said player) My only desire is to see Altidore succeed, as it is important for the growth of the game in my country. He's not a world-beater, he's not world class. He's not a top-20 striker in the PL. He's a young player who is better than he gets credit for. And the level of disproportionate bullshit directed at him either stems from massive WUMing or irrational hatred for Sunderland/American players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:18, cp40 said: Quote Quote Quote Quote Scored just as many as Cisse this season. Hush now, it doesn't fit the narrative. What a load of sweaty arse crack. Cisse gets enough criticism in his own thread and several others round here, you've justified comparing jozy with the most out of form player on our books. Cracking, he's Americas best player as well yeah? Your boy has been shit so far, equally as shite as his hull days. Hopefully for you he'll score against us and you can be proud of your nations talents once again. First, I've never claimed he's our best player. He's not. I've only ever claimed he's better than he's given credit for by some of you hellbent on your anti-Mackem/anti-Yank crusade. He has not been shit. Next to Giaccherini, he has easily been the best player on a very poor team. RVP himself wouldn't be scoring for Sunderland at the moment, they're just that bad. And to pre-empt your next quip, no, that statement is not akin to saying "Altidore is just as good as RVP." His hold-up play has been quite good, he makes smart passes, and he can rip off a good shot. When he gets the ball, which is few and far between. Amazing how whenever he receives service for the U.S., he scores. Whenever he received service for AZ, he scored. Of course, 'CONCACAF and the Eredivisie are shit' blah blah blah and all that utter nonsense. It's funny that, for instance, "Sessegnon was their best player over the past few years, albeit bang average." Now that he no longer plays for Sunderland, "he's a really good player." Some of you are utterly incapable of objectivity when it comes to Sunderland. It's a childishness that extends far beyond football and, from outsiders' perspectives, is wildly pathetic. Sunderland is a nothing team from a nothing city with no history. If you want to be taken seriously by the rest of the country (and, despite pretending not to care, so many of you constantly bemoan the fact that Newcastle is slighted by southerners), stop comparing yourselves to Sunderland and start comparing yourselves to the Liverpools and Manchesters of the football world. Hold yourselves to a higher standard. Mackem TBH. this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 FWIW, I don't think anyone rated Altidore when he was playing for Hull. If people are small minded Geordies for thinking he's bang average then surely the same people could accuse you of being blinded by patriotism in rating him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open_C Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:22, Deuce said: Quote Not sure how well the objectivity argument holds up given the nature of the current debate tbh (this is posted entirely without prejudice, however, since I have zero interest in, or opinions on, said player) My only desire is to see Altidore succeed, as it is important for the growth of the game in my country. He's not a world-beater, he's not world class. He's not a top-20 striker in the PL. He's a young player who is better than he gets credit for. And the level of disproportionate bullshit directed at him either stems from massive WUMing or irrational hatred for Sunderland/American players. And my point is, of course, that your desire for him to succeed perhaps leads to you defending him more than is justified, just as some on here lay into him more than is justified? I have no idea, it's just that objectivity is easiest when you have no personal interest at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 On 29/09/2013 at 19:23, Pixelphish said: FWIW, I don't think anyone rated Altidore when he was playing for Hull. If people are small minded Geordies for thinking he's bang average then surely the same people could accuse you of being blinded by patriotism in rating him? Aye, basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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