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BBC commentator just said red card was justified for a really bad challenge. 

He also said that the Norwich player was going nowhere and it didn't need to be made. Is Brown one of their famous drinking clique? Maybe fancies Christmas on the lash - never been one for wanting to play too many games.

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Inspirational!

 

Sunderland manager Gus Poyet: "I'm disappointed. I was expecting more from the team: I was expecting to win.

 

"Every time we win an important game - like the cup win (against Chelsea) - the next step is always down.

 

"We were very poor technically today. Playing extra-time on Tuesday is no excuse.

 

"I'm realistic. Time is running out (to stay up)."

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Their home fixtures are pretty favourable tbh. But they're still shite anyway, and they're coming from a pathetic starting point. There's also the impending fallout between the manager and club.

 

They're off down.

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It's going to take some effort to recover from only having 10 points at Christmas - think they might be done this time.

They are only 4 points away though, a lot of crap this year at the bottom, think that'll probably save them unfortunately

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It's going to take some effort to recover from only having 10 points at Christmas - think they might be done this time.

They are only 4 points away though, a lot of crap this year at the bottom, think that'll probably save them unfortunately

They may only be 4 points off but they will still need to win the two games to get them out of the relegation zone and then some to keep pace with other teams form. Their last two must win games against teams around them have been draws, you can look at it as 2 points picked up but I honestly think it's 4 points dropped for them.

 

If it wasn't for teams around them playing teams at the top then they could easily have been 7 points adrift today, and thats taking into account their draw with Norwich. Norwich and West Ham are teams they need to be beating not drawing. Fair enough you could say a draw away from home to West Ham is reasonable, but they really need to be beating the likes of Norwich at home. You also have to factor in that at the time West Ham have key players out injured, these players will be coming back as the season goes on and when they do I think West Ham will pull away from the relegation zone. You need to capitalise when you play teams around you and they don't have a full squad to send out against you.

 

There has only been one team in Premier League history who have been in a similar situation to Sunderland at this stage and survived, but doing so required them to drastically turn around their results and a below than average points total to stay up. The likely hood of Sunderland or any team repeating it is very very slim.

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