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Manchester City vs. Newcastle United - 19/08/13 @ 8pm (Sky Sports 1)


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2-0 City. We'll be competitive first 20 minutes, they'll score and dominate until half-time. We'll have a couple of early chances, with something like a good penalty shout, tight offside or something going against us, before they score again and stroll the last half hour.

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Think it will be this:

 

                                      Krul

 

Debuchy        Saylor            Coloccini        Yanga-Mbiwa

 

                      Cabaye            Tiote

 

HBA                          Sissoko                      Gouffran

                                 

                                  Cisse

 

Not sure if Krul or Elliott in goal but I'll go with Krul. Will more or less be 4-5-1 with Sissoko doing his best to support Cisse. That means little or no service and pretty much accepting a slow, painful defeat.

 

:whistle:

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Highline?  :suicide:

 

The same high line that practically every successful team use? its fine as long you put pressure on the player in possession.

 

People have forgotten what can be achieved with real pressing football.

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Highline?  :suicide:

 

The same high line that practically every successful team use? its fine as long you put pressure on the player in possession.

 

Successful teams have good, pacy, technical CB's. We don't.

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Highline?  :suicide:

 

The same high line that practically every successful team use? its fine as long you put pressure on the player in possession.

 

Successful teams have good, pacy, technical CB's. We don't.

 

We have one technical, and one technical and pacey TBF.

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Highline?  :suicide:

 

The same high line that practically every successful team use? its fine as long you put pressure on the player in possession.

 

Successful teams have good, pacy, technical CB's. We don't.

 

Colo and Yanga-Mbiwa are not good and technical? and Yanga-Mbiwa is not pacy?

 

Besides Dortmund and Bayern hardly have the quickest and most technical defenders in the world. ( Hummels aside who isn't quick either)

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Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence.

 

Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers.

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Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence.

 

Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers.

 

Hence W.B.A and Shane Long tearing him a new one. We simply dont play a high line, you can press without having to use a high line.

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Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence.

 

Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers.

 

Wouldn't having Mapou's pace in the back 4 negate that though?

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Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence.

 

Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers.

 

Wouldn't having Mapou's pace in the back 4 negate that though?

 

Well it didn't work against Liverpool did it. That was a suicidal high line. In theory it might work but with no cover in front of them it's a mad thing to do.

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Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence.

 

Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers.

 

Wouldn't having Mapou's pace in the back 4 negate that though?

 

No. We had plenty of pace in the full back areas when we were exposed by the high line in the past.

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Playing a high line in modern football is not a good thing at the moment. There too many pacy counter attacking teams now, with clever players, we would get counter attacked to smithereens.

 

Defend the edge of your box, win it back and keep it, counter attack yourselves. And not hoof it toward a lone forward 40 yards away competing with two CB who just nod it down, repeat cycle.

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Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence.

 

Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers.

 

Wouldn't having Mapou's pace in the back 4 negate that though?

 

Well it didn't work against Liverpool did it. That was a suicidal high line. In theory it might work but with no cover in front of them it's a mad thing to do.

 

You have to press the ball properly, its suicide otherwise i agree.

 

Problem is when we have used a high line before we have put no pressure on the player in possession.

 

There is nothing wrong with a high line, in fact if anything it makes it easier to create chances. But you need to press the ball properly.

 

Nothing to do with pace really, plenty of teams use it effectively without quick CBs.

 

Not like Pardew would do it anyway, but its an very effective way of playing when done right and we definitely have the players for it.

 

 

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A high line is fine if we press high enough to make the opposition half of the pitch compact. You also need to have your keeper ready to move off his line as well though which is not something Krul is encouraged to do.

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A high line is fine if we press high enough to make the opposition half of the pitch compact. You also need to have your keeper ready to move off his line as well though which is not something Krul is encouraged to do.

 

Krul's kicking is awful, which doesn't help with him sweeping up.

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