Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence. Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers. Hence W.B.A and Shane Long tearing him a new one. We simply dont play a high line, you can press without having to use a high line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence. Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers. Wouldn't having Mapou's pace in the back 4 negate that though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence. Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers. Wouldn't having Mapou's pace in the back 4 negate that though? Well it didn't work against Liverpool did it. That was a suicidal high line. In theory it might work but with no cover in front of them it's a mad thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence. Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers. Wouldn't having Mapou's pace in the back 4 negate that though? No. We had plenty of pace in the full back areas when we were exposed by the high line in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Coloccini is a good technical defender. Arguably MYM has all three of the attributes you have listed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Playing a high line in modern football is not a good thing at the moment. There too many pacy counter attacking teams now, with clever players, we would get counter attacked to smithereens. Defend the edge of your box, win it back and keep it, counter attack yourselves. And not hoof it toward a lone forward 40 yards away competing with two CB who just nod it down, repeat cycle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Agreed. Colo is a bloody good player and what he lacks in pace he usually makes up in intelligence. Not when we play a high line he doesn't. He doesn't stand a chance in that position against quick strikers. Wouldn't having Mapou's pace in the back 4 negate that though? Well it didn't work against Liverpool did it. That was a suicidal high line. In theory it might work but with no cover in front of them it's a mad thing to do. You have to press the ball properly, its suicide otherwise i agree. Problem is when we have used a high line before we have put no pressure on the player in possession. There is nothing wrong with a high line, in fact if anything it makes it easier to create chances. But you need to press the ball properly. Nothing to do with pace really, plenty of teams use it effectively without quick CBs. Not like Pardew would do it anyway, but its an very effective way of playing when done right and we definitely have the players for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 A high line is fine if we press high enough to make the opposition half of the pitch compact. You also need to have your keeper ready to move off his line as well though which is not something Krul is encouraged to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 we will win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 A high line is fine if we press high enough to make the opposition half of the pitch compact. You also need to have your keeper ready to move off his line as well though which is not something Krul is encouraged to do. Krul's kicking is awful, which doesn't help with him sweeping up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Ah i forgot about Krul's kicking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 High line against City would be suicide imo. We aren't organised enough to play it and Pellegrini is savvy enough to recognise it and punish us severely for it. Not saying we do it, because Pardew doesn't know how to do it effectively. Just saying we have the players for it but not the manager who is savvy enough to see it. Also City's team is mostly technical more than pace (Navas aside) if you are going to get away with it against any big team in the league its probably them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I wouldn't want to give Man City any space in behind us, it would truly be a bad thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 At 7PM when the teams are announced every one will feel suicidal when they see Elliott starting. Then they'll notice Jonas starting. Then they'll notice Ameobi starting... http://iliketowastemytime.com/sites/default/files/best_animated_gif_nuclear_explosion.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 At 7PM when the teams are announced every one will feel suicidal when they see Elliott starting. Then they'll notice Jonas starting. Then they'll notice Ameobi starting... http://iliketowastemytime.com/sites/default/files/best_animated_gif_nuclear_explosion.gif Shola right wing TBH Shola LW, Sammy RW, so they can cut inside. No strikers. It'll be called the False-11 and Pardew will be knighted for services to football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 This <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=5984"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/what-Alison-Brie-.gif"></a> Then this <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=14210"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/iH8u.gif"></a> Then finally this <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=5933"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/rain-crying.gif"></a> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 High line against City would be suicide imo. We aren't organised enough to play it and Pellegrini is savvy enough to recognise it and punish us severely for it. Not saying we do it, because Pardew doesn't know how to do it effectively. Just saying we have the players for it but not the manager who is savvy enough to see it. Also City's team is mostly technical more than pace (Navas aside) if you are going to get away with it against any big team in the league its probably them. Yeah, I agree , I don't think its a bad thing when implemented correctly but we certainly wont do that. It's failed when we've tried it before, take your point on City though. The gap in coaching expertise is what worries me the most about tonight tbh As I have witnessed too many times, Agüero does know how to take the p*ss of a high defence line too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Luckily I don't think aguero is fit enough to start. Think it'll be Negredo supported by Navas, silva and jovetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 High line against City would be suicide imo. We aren't organised enough to play it and Pellegrini is savvy enough to recognise it and punish us severely for it. Not saying we do it, because Pardew doesn't know how to do it effectively. Just saying we have the players for it but not the manager who is savvy enough to see it. Also City's team is mostly technical more than pace (Navas aside) if you are going to get away with it against any big team in the league its probably them. Yeah, I agree , I don't think its a bad thing when implemented correctly but we certainly wont do that. It's failed when we've tried it before, take your point on City though. The gap in coaching expertise is what worries me the most about tonight tbh As I have witnessed too many times, Agüero does know how to take the p*ss of a high defence line too. Thankfully I think he'll be on the bench tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Any Alison Brie appearance is welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Luckily I don't think aguero is fit enough to start. Think it'll be Negredo supported by Navas, silva and jovetic. Oh, that's lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Luckily I don't think aguero is fit enough to start. Think it'll be Negredo supported by Navas, silva and jovetic. Oh, that's lucky. Phew, really dodged a bullet there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Luckily I don't think aguero is fit enough to start. Think it'll be Negredo supported by Navas, silva and jovetic. Oh, that's lucky. If anything that might be worse, considering the lack of height in the defense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Luckily I don't think aguero is fit enough to start. Think it'll be Negredo supported by Navas, silva and jovetic. Oh, that's lucky. If anything that might be worse, considering the lack of height in the defense. At least they aren't adapted to the league yet. Silver lining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Today begins the first season that I will miss all of, since 1993/94, when I was 4 years old - having just moved to China. Because of the bloody time, unlike the other matches, I will be in bed for it all - it's 7 hours ahead here and I have to be up at 7. Can't say I'm too gutted about missing this particular match though, or eager for checking the score tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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